Ohio State vs Iowa

[666]

Man was I wrong. OSU showed up to wrestle. Why didn't Ayala wrestle? 

[flyingcement]

12 minutes ago, 666 said:

Man was I wrong. OSU showed up to wrestle. Why didn't Ayala wrestle? 

On hawkeye forum there were comments about a minor injury (elbow or shoulder)

[BruceyB]

38 minutes ago, CGriff said:

I mean it’s legal so it’s more so complaining about OSU not using it. It is risky tho. I mean look at Michigan, all portal guys last year and now they’re barely top 25

Using the portal is an unsustainable way to build a successful program. How much money is Iowa spending on 3 rentals to (at best) finish in second place this year? Wouldn't it be better to spend that money on recruits that you will have for their entire eligibility?

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, BruceyB said:

Using the portal is an unsustainable way to build a successful program. How much money is Iowa spending on 3 rentals to (at best) finish in second place this year? Wouldn't it be better to spend that money on recruits that you will have for their entire eligibility?

Again.  The college.  Specifically Iowa or psu or Michigan isn’t paying for the portal people.  

[BruceyB]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

Again.  The college.  Specifically Iowa or psu or Michigan isn’t paying for the portal people.  

Stop with this. You know exactly what everyone means. No the school is not paying the athlete directly, but their collective is. Would never answered last time I asked for how you would prefer it be phrased. Would you be okay if I asked, "How much money is Iowa's collective spending on 3 rentals?"

Drop this ridiculous argument. Everyone knows that the "collective" is just a middle man so that the coaches aren't technically breaking the rules. Each schools NIL recruiting power is a direct reflection of how much money the programs supporters are donating. Bigger donors/more money to spend on athletes. You think Iowa brought in 3 top tier transfers without Brands agreeing on spending that amount of money?

 

[Hammerlock3]

On 1/20/2025 at 10:40 PM, bnwtwg said:

Three offensive TDs, an escape, and a Keuter forced shot turned defensive TD against four Keuter escapes is a realistic outcome until proven otherwise.

Uh oh, your bizarre demand that someone prove a future outcome impossible just timed out! Guess my claim that feldman is overrated isn't so offensive anymore!

[Hammerlock3]

On 1/21/2025 at 12:47 AM, 1032004 said:

Agree.  I’m picking Kueter to win in a bounce back 

here is the real hero of the topic

[Caveira]

10 minutes ago, BruceyB said:

Stop with this. You know exactly what everyone means. No the school is not paying the athlete directly, but their collective is. Would never answered last time I asked for how you would prefer it be phrased. Would you be okay if I asked, "How much money is Iowa's collective spending on 3 rentals?"

Drop this ridiculous argument. Everyone knows that the "collective" is just a middle man so that the coaches aren't technically breaking the rules. Each schools NIL recruiting power is a direct reflection of how much money the programs supporters are donating. Bigger donors/more money to spend on athletes. You think Iowa brought in 3 top tier transfers without Brands agreeing on spending that amount of money?

 

You think all of the top n programs aren’t paying every star/stud kid nil.   The portal is irrelevant from that perspective imo.  I know of mid level AAs at bottom big 10 teams that are getting nil.   

[Jamie_Taco]

1 hour ago, CGriff said:

I mean it’s legal so it’s more so complaining about OSU not using it. It is risky tho. I mean look at Michigan, all portal guys last year and now they’re barely top 25

Lol as if Iowa wrestling and Michigan wrestling are one in the same.

The crying in this thread is hilarious. - I hope this board never changes.

[RawDog]

4 hours ago, VakAttack said:

Alirez.

 

3 hours ago, 666 said:

Good call, but don't you think Alirez sitting out last year might make him a little rusty?

 

3 hours ago, VakAttack said:

Not by the end of the year.  I think Alirez will be locked in due to losing their first match.  We'll see.

Can alirez even make the weight?  He lost to Mendez at a 150 catch weight. Mendez is a lock to win it.

[CGriff]

16 minutes ago, Jamie_Taco said:

Lol as if Iowa wrestling and Michigan wrestling are one in the same.

The crying in this thread is hilarious. - I hope this board never changes.

Michigan placed better than Iowa last year 

[CGriff]

8 minutes ago, RawDog said:

 

 

Can alirez even make the weight?  He lost to Mendez at a 150 catch weight. Mendez is a lock to win it.

Alirez wrestles like once every few weeks so he will be fresh at least 

[1032004]

4 hours ago, BruceyB said:

He has one top 20 win and 0 top 10 wins. Let's temper expectations.

There’s little difference between top 10 and top 20 at 125.  McCrone was top 10 on Flo 3 weeks ago

[BruceyB]

30 minutes ago, RawDog said:

 

 

Can alirez even make the weight?  He lost to Mendez at a 150 catch weight. Mendez is a lock to win it.

He had a fall in 31 seconds yesterday. 

[BruceyB]

19 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

There’s little difference between top 10 and top 20 at 125.  McCrone was top 10 on Flo 3 weeks ago

Yes, but predicting anyone to AA at 125 is risky, let alone someone that has losses to backups and NAIA competition this year. Don't get me wrong, he looks to be improving, but let's not overreact.

[CGriff]

Not going to get carried away because I don’t think anyone is beating Levi or O’Toole but what do you guys think the score is of a potential Hamiti/Kharchla match?

[1032004]

4 minutes ago, BruceyB said:

Yes, but predicting anyone to AA at 125 is risky, let alone someone that has losses to backups and NAIA competition this year. Don't get me wrong, he looks to be improving, but let's not overreact.

Agree.  I probably wouldn’t pick him to AA but he’s definitely in the conversation.  A few weeks ago it looked like he wasn’t even going to qualify. 

[Jamie_Taco]

43 minutes ago, CGriff said:

Michigan placed better than Iowa last year 

And that means what, exactly? Now do the 30 years prior to that. This year won't be close between the two. I'm guessing next year will be similar.

[Pinnacle]

4 hours ago, Caveira said:

Sucks Cruz won that dual for Iowa.   Fixed that for ya. 

This is one of several reasons why Natty Duals as a Championship wont work.

[1032004]

1 hour ago, Jamie_Taco said:

Lol as if Iowa wrestling and Michigan wrestling are one in the same.

The crying in this thread is hilarious. - I hope this board never changes.

Well if Michigan is being supported by Kelly Ripa and Mark Consuelos, they have far more money than Slumlord Bob

[BruceyB]

26 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

This is one of several reasons why Natty Duals as a Championship wont work.

I'd argue that is what's exciting about a dual vs a tournament. In a tournament, you can knock of the number one seed in the first round and lose your next two and finish with 1 point for your team. The upset didn't end up meaningfully helping your team. In a dual, a big upset can literally flip who is the favorite to win. Excitement.

[MPhillips]

2 hours ago, CGriff said:

Not going to get carried away because I don’t think anyone is beating Levi or O’Toole but what do you guys think the score is of a potential Hamiti/Kharchla match?

8-4

[Hammerlock3]

9 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

8-4

i don't think Kharchla has that many escapes in him, think its more like 8-2

[bnwtwg]

17 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

Uh oh, your bizarre demand that someone prove a future outcome impossible just timed out! Guess my claim that feldman is overrated isn't so offensive anymore!

ok cool? Mid AA candidate loses to R12-to-mid AA candidate without a signature victory until last night is probably the most shocking result since Owings-Gable. Back to the drawing board for me I guess.

[DocBB]

20 hours ago, CGriff said:

Kharchla looks solid 

Kharchla is wrestling on 2 good ACL's for the first time in his college career and is barely 1 year out from surgery, hence the bulky knee brace. I remember the last time he wrestled on 2 good ACL's he almost tech'd Mekhi Lewis before he even started college. I could see a top 4 finish for him this year. Next year if he comes back he could be a finalist. Most people aren't 100% until year 2 after ACL surgery.