When AJ Ferrari loses

[KennyEBHS]

To Josh Barr.

Edited yesterday at 12:19 AM by KennyEBHS

[ionel]

 and ...

[Mr. PeanutButter]

Is this like a weird take on a jeopardy question? 

[flyingcement]

I'll take "When will the rest of the Intermat Wrestling Forums pronounce Josh Barr as the next big thing?, Alex"

[PortaJohn]

4 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

I'll take "When will the rest of the Intermat Wrestling Forums pronounce Josh Barr as the next big thing?, Alex"

Did Jimmy measure him yet?  Looks 5' 6" to me

[bnwtwg]

Ferrari is a mid-AA candidate. Just like this topic.

Mid.

Mid AF.

If it were a Christmas tournament they would call it the Midlands because its' best days are in the past.

Edited yesterday at 02:16 AM by bnwtwg

[1032004]

Who would OK State or Iowa fans root for if this was the finals matchup?

[flyingcement]

4 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Who would OK State or Iowa fans root for if this was the finals matchup?

for someone to pull the fire alarm

[Mr. PeanutButter]

5 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Who would OK State or Iowa fans root for if this was the finals matchup?

Easy choice. AJ is a narcissistic glute cap who would sell out his own mother to make a buck. He would have to wrestle the anti-christ for me to root for him. 

[flyingcement]

Just now, Mr. PeanutButter said:

Easy choice. AJ is a narcissistic glute cap who would sell out his own mother to make a buck. He would have to wrestle the anti-christ for me to root for him. 

so you're an anti-anti-christ guy huh?

[Caveira]

6 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Who would OK State or Iowa fans root for if this was the finals matchup?

Hmmmm.   Given Aj didn’t come to Iowa.   Which I am super happy about.   Wouldn’t most Iowa fans root against psu against any opponent?

[flyingcement]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

Hmmmm.   Given Aj didn’t come to Iowa.   Which I am super happy about.   Wouldn’t most Iowa fans root against psu against any opponent?

You could also argue that given PSU is going to win the team race no matter what, wouldn't you root for the person who is more likeable?

[BruceyB]

54 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

Ferrari is a mid-AA candidate. Just like this topic.

Mid.

Mid AF.

If it were a Christmas tournament they would call it the Midlands because its' best days are in the past.

I'm not confident that he won't win 197. IMO it's a toss up at this point with him against Buchanon or Cardenas, and I would probably pick him over Barr right now. What have you seen that makes you doubt he's a top 3 other than time off the mat?

His defense is the reason I think he could still win the weight. He's not a big point scorer necessarily, but how many takedowns has he given up in his collegiate career.. 1?

[Caveira]

10 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

You could also argue that given PSU is going to win the team race no matter what, wouldn't you root for the person who is more likeable?

Aj is defo less likable.   He’s a giant turd and I’m glad he didn’t come to Iowa because of that.    With that said.   No.   Go beat psu every time.   Call out Cstar after he does it even.   

Edited yesterday at 03:23 AM by Caveira

[ionel]

28 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Hmmmm.   Given Aj didn’t come to Iowa.   

ahh ... Jimmy begs to differ and I'm sure PJ will back me up on this. 

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, ionel said:

ahh ... Jimmy begs to differ and I'm sure PJ will back me up on this. 

Not sure what you mean.  Not arguing this one.  But Jimmy the Cinnabon isn’t an Iowa fan is he?   He’s just a troll troll no?
 

#paythedebts

[ionel]

16 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Not sure what you mean.  Not arguing this one.  But Jimmy the Cinnabon isn’t an Iowa fan is he?   He’s just a troll troll no?
 

#paythedebts

For all we know he's a Michigan fan.  Maybe @PortaJohn has more insight?  

[PortaJohn]

6 minutes ago, ionel said:

For all we know he's a Michigan fan.  Maybe @PortaJohn has more insight?  

Who is Jimmy Cinnabon, I hear you say,
A whisper in the air, a name at play.
Is he a myth, a man, a fleeting guise?
A swirl of questions, like Iowa skies.

Does he rise at dawn, at a Michigan lake,
Folding stories in the dough he makes?
Perhaps he crafts sweetness, a life in a bun,
With sugar and spice spun under the sun.

Or is he a wanderer, bound to no place,
A poet, a dreamer, lost in the chase?
Carving his hawkeye like a pastry's swirl,
Through the chaos of life, through the endless whirl.

Is he a rebel, a fighter, a wolverine?
A light in the shadows, a flame in the dark?
Or maybe he's quiet, a soft-spoken muse,
An welcher of flavor, with magic to use.

We wonder, we question, we guess who he cheers,
Yet Jimmy remains an enigma to see.
For perhaps he's not one, but all we aspire,
A name that ignites our hidden desire.

So who is Jimmy Cinnabon? Do you know?
A keeper of bets, a shadowy glow.
Or maybe he’s none of these—just a name,
A sweet little mystery, delightfully plain.

[ionel]

5 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

Who is Jimmy Cinnabon, I hear you say,
A whisper in the air, a name at play.
Is he a myth, a man, a fleeting guise?
A swirl of questions, like Iowa skies.

Does he rise at dawn, at a Michigan lake,
Folding stories in the dough he makes?
Perhaps he crafts sweetness, a life in a bun,
With sugar and spice spun under the sun.

Or is he a wanderer, bound to no place,
A poet, a dreamer, lost in the chase?
Carving his hawkeye like a pastry's swirl,
Through the chaos of life, through the endless whirl.

Is he a rebel, a fighter, a wolverine?
A light in the shadows, a flame in the dark?
Or maybe he's quiet, a soft-spoken muse,
An welcher of flavor, with magic to use.

We wonder, we question, we guess who he cheers,
Yet Jimmy remains an enigma to see.
For perhaps he's not one, but all we aspire,
A name that ignites our hidden desire.

So who is Jimmy Cinnabon? Do you know?
A keeper of bets, a shadowy glow.
Or maybe he’s none of these—just a name,
A sweet little mystery, delightfully plain.

You best work!  

[Caveira]

42 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

Who is Jimmy Cinnabon, I hear you say,
A whisper in the air, a name at play.
Is he a myth, a man, a fleeting guise?
A swirl of questions, like Iowa skies.

Does he rise at dawn, at a Michigan lake,
Folding stories in the dough he makes?
Perhaps he crafts sweetness, a life in a bun,
With sugar and spice spun under the sun.

Or is he a wanderer, bound to no place,
A poet, a dreamer, lost in the chase?
Carving his hawkeye like a pastry's swirl,
Through the chaos of life, through the endless whirl.

Is he a rebel, a fighter, a wolverine?
A light in the shadows, a flame in the dark?
Or maybe he's quiet, a soft-spoken muse,
An welcher of flavor, with magic to use.

We wonder, we question, we guess who he cheers,
Yet Jimmy remains an enigma to see.
For perhaps he's not one, but all we aspire,
A name that ignites our hidden desire.

So who is Jimmy Cinnabon? Do you know?
A keeper of bets, a shadowy glow.
Or maybe he’s none of these—just a name,
A sweet little mystery, delightfully plain.

Fantastic sir.     Outstanding.  

 

[bnwtwg]

2 hours ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

Easy choice. AJ is a narcissistic glute cap who would sell out his own mother to make a buck. He would have to wrestle the anti-christ for me to root for him. 

Luckily I'm atheist because I'm rooting for AC/JC

[bnwtwg]

2 hours ago, BruceyB said:

I'm not confident that he won't win 197. IMO it's a toss up at this point with him against Buchanon or Cardenas, and I would probably pick him over Barr right now. What have you seen that makes you doubt he's a top 3 other than time off the mat?

His defense is the reason I think he could still win the weight. He's not a big point scorer necessarily, but how many takedowns has he given up in his collegiate career.. 1?

Can you bring back PabloLikesToWrestle asking about the best greco shoes please? That was my favorite burner 

[ionel]

2 hours ago, PortaJohn said:

Who is Jimmy Cinnabon, I hear you say,
A whisper in the air, a name at play.
Is he a myth, a man, a fleeting guise?
A swirl of questions, like Iowa skies.

Does he rise at dawn, at a Michigan lake,
Folding stories in the dough he makes?
Perhaps he crafts sweetness, a life in a bun,
With sugar and spice spun under the sun.

Or is he a wanderer, bound to no place,
A poet, a dreamer, lost in the chase?
Carving his hawkeye like a pastry's swirl,
Through the chaos of life, through the endless whirl.

Is he a rebel, a fighter, a wolverine?
A light in the shadows, a flame in the dark?
Or maybe he's quiet, a soft-spoken muse,
An welcher of flavor, with magic to use.

We wonder, we question, we guess who he cheers,
Yet Jimmy remains an enigma to see.
For perhaps he's not one, but all we aspire,
A name that ignites our hidden desire.

So who is Jimmy Cinnabon? Do you know?
A keeper of bets, a shadowy glow.
Or maybe he’s none of these—just a name,
A sweet little mystery, delightfully plain.

On further review/consideration this really should be pinned to the top of the forum!  This is a work of art.  C'mon @BobDole make it happen.  

[BruceyB]

1 hour ago, bnwtwg said:

Can you bring back PabloLikesToWrestle asking about the best greco shoes please? That was my favorite burner 

A snarky one liner that did nothing to defend your comment.

I try to be objective. Feel free to explain your argument for why he is not a title threat and merely a "mid-AA candidate." Bear in mind that he boasted a 40% bonus rate the year he won it. I am here for an actual rationale, if you have one.

Yes, it was 2021, but Ferrari outscored Buchanon 5 TDs to 0. Even if Ferrari has regressed and Buchanon has improved (which is debatable), has it been a 5 takedown swing? Again, I look forward to a thoughtful response.

[SocraTease]

4 hours ago, PortaJohn said:

Who is Jimmy Cinnabon, I hear you say,
A whisper in the air, a name at play.
Is he a myth, a man, a fleeting guise?
A swirl of questions, like Iowa skies.

Does he rise at dawn, at a Michigan lake,
Folding stories in the dough he makes?
Perhaps he crafts sweetness, a life in a bun,
With sugar and spice spun under the sun.

Or is he a wanderer, bound to no place,
A poet, a dreamer, lost in the chase?
Carving his hawkeye like a pastry's swirl,
Through the chaos of life, through the endless whirl.

Is he a rebel, a fighter, a wolverine?
A light in the shadows, a flame in the dark?
Or maybe he's quiet, a soft-spoken muse,
An welcher of flavor, with magic to use.

We wonder, we question, we guess who he cheers,
Yet Jimmy remains an enigma to see.
For perhaps he's not one, but all we aspire,
A name that ignites our hidden desire.

So who is Jimmy Cinnabon? Do you know?
A keeper of bets, a shadowy glow.
Or maybe he’s none of these—just a name,
A sweet little mystery, delightfully plain.

For the sake of late night lollygagging, here is Chat GPT's comments on Jimmy poem.   

This poem has a fun, whimsical tone that blends elements of intrigue and mystery with a touch of everyday magic. The central figure, Jimmy Cinnabon, is both elusive and compelling, which seems to invite readers into a world of imaginative possibilities. Here’s a breakdown of what works and where it could be further refined:

Strengths:

1. Mystery and Ambiguity: The poem works well in keeping Jimmy’s identity unclear, encouraging readers to engage with the text and try to decode who he is. This intrigue is a powerful tool in poetry, and you use it effectively. The repeated question "Who is Jimmy Cinnabon?" adds to the sense of curiosity and reinforces the theme of mystery.

2. Vivid Imagery: The lines "A swirl of questions, like Iowa skies" and "Carving his hawkeye like a pastry's swirl" present vivid and sensory-rich images. The use of food imagery, particularly the “dough,” “bun,” and “sugar and spice,” cleverly ties back to the name "Cinnabon," which conjures an inviting, sweet, and slightly indulgent world.

3. Tone and Playfulness: The tone of the poem feels lighthearted and playful, especially with lines like "Is he a rebel, a fighter, a wolverine?" and "A sweet little mystery, delightfully plain." The mix of whimsical questions with deeper, more philosophical undertones creates an enjoyable juxtaposition that doesn’t feel too heavy-handed.

4. Wordplay and Metaphors: The metaphors around Jimmy’s potential character are fun, and the wordplay, like "welcher of flavor," is clever. This playful manipulation of language adds a layer of sophistication without feeling too convoluted.

Areas for Improvement:

1. Clarity of Theme: While the ambiguity works well for the character of Jimmy, the broader theme could be a bit clearer. At times, it feels like the poem is juggling multiple possible interpretations (a baker, a dreamer, a wrestler, a mystery) without fully committing to any one path. Tightening the focus might help the reader latch onto a more specific interpretation or purpose for Jimmy’s enigma. Are we supposed to see him as a symbol of universal curiosity, or are we meant to focus on a specific aspect of his character (like his wrestling fandom)?

2. Consistency of Tone: The shifts between abstract, philosophical lines ("Perhaps he's not one, but all we aspire") and more grounded, playful ones ("A sweet little mystery, delightfully plain") might benefit from some refinement. While this dynamic shift can be interesting, it risks pulling the poem in different directions. A more consistent tone would strengthen the poem’s emotional impact and help guide the reader through the shifts in persona and mood.

3. Use of Wrestling: You’ve introduced a wrestling theme ("a rebel, a fighter, a wolverine"), which is intriguing, but it feels a bit underdeveloped. If Jimmy is indeed a wrestling fan (or wrestler himself), some clearer connection to that world might give the poem more depth. You mention a "wolverine"—this could be a nod to Michigan's mascot, which ties into the idea of a wrestler or competitor, but it's not fully explored. Perhaps introducing imagery of the wrestling ring or a specific wrestler could tie this aspect more cohesively into the narrative.

4. Pacing and Structure: The poem’s pacing is slightly uneven in places. Some stanzas are packed with dense, thoughtful language ("Is he a rebel, a fighter, a wolverine?"), while others feel lighter and quicker, such as "Perhaps he crafts sweetness, a life in a bun." Consider varying the rhythm a bit more to balance these moments. You could slow down the pace in some sections for deeper reflection or speed up in others for a sense of momentum.

Suggestions for Refinement:

1. Clarify Jimmy’s Role: If you want the wrestling aspect to be more prominent, you could add a line or two explicitly referencing Jimmy as a wrestling fan or even tie his character to a specific wrestling archetype. For example, referencing wrestling tropes or iconic figures (like "he's a Stone Cold under a sweet disguise") could inject more energy and specificity into the piece.

2. Refine Transitions: Some stanzas shift abruptly from one persona of Jimmy to another. More subtle transitions could help guide the reader more smoothly through the different possible interpretations of Jimmy’s character.

3. Focus on One Central Question: If you want to keep the mystery alive, consider honing in on a central question that embodies the poem's theme. For example, “Who is Jimmy Cinnabon?” could become the focal point, with each stanza adding a layer of possibility or metaphor until the final lines, which could either resolve the mystery or deepen it even further.

Conclusion:

This poem has a lot of playful charm and intriguing potential. The whimsical tone, rich imagery, and underlying mystery all combine to create a poem that invites the reader into a world of wonder and speculation. With a bit more refinement in terms of thematic focus and structure, it could become an even more powerful exploration of identity, mystery, and the many facets of a character like Jimmy. Keep honing the balance between whimsy and clarity to maintain both the curiosity and the emotional resonance of the piece.