Jimmy Cinnabon Posted December 4 Posted December 4 Cael reported Nagao has a very severe injury that required surgery and is out for the season (and maybe longer). Penn State has Braeden Davis at 133 but as we saw last year he is still hit or miss, especially up at a new weight. This means 133 could *potentially* be a non-AA weight like it was last year. Does this open up the team race a bit for a team like Iowa? 2 1
Mr. PeanutButter Posted December 4 Posted December 4 If Starocci and Haines both miss weigh ins then it will be a race
Wrestleknownothing Posted December 4 Posted December 4 What will they ever do without his 3 points? Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
TylerDurden Posted December 4 Posted December 4 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said: If Starocci and Haines both miss weigh ins then it will be a race I'm not sure even that would make it a race. PSU is deep, deep. I'm sure @Wrestleknownothing could run some numbers from his vast database, but my guess even if PSU lost Starocci and Haines that their backups, plus the remaining PSU starters, could still score enough to win.* *Now I'm going to look at last year's results to see if that has any foundation in reality. Edit: I looked. If you take Penn State's 2024 results and remove Brooks, Haines, Starocci, Truax, Nagao and Davis...they still total 82 points between Kerk, Bartlett, MM and Kasak. Cornell finished second with 72.5 last year. So without even speculating how many points they may get from Lilledahl, SVN, Barr, hypothetical replacements for Starocci and Haines...PSU is the favorite Edited December 4 by TylerDurden 1 1
nhs67 Posted December 4 Posted December 4 30 minutes ago, TylerDurden said: I'm not sure even that would make it a race. PSU is deep, deep. I'm sure @Wrestleknownothing could run some numbers from his vast database, but my guess even if PSU lost Starocci and Haines that their backups, plus the remaining PSU starters, could still score enough to win.* *Now I'm going to look at last year's results to see if that has any foundation in reality. Edit: I looked. If you take Penn State's 2024 results and remove Brooks, Haines, Starocci, Truax, Nagao and Davis...they still total 82 points between Kerk, Bartlett, MM and Kasak. Cornell finished second with 72.5 last year. So without even speculating how many points they may get from Lilledahl, SVN, Barr, hypothetical replacements for Starocci and Haines...PSU is the favorite This doesn't take in to account the extra points that would be scored by everyone else at the weight without those gents in. Cornell undoubtedly would not get 72.5 points. They could get more or less, but they likely don't get 72.5 points. The brackets would still need to be wrestled, but with those six weights being redrawn it would change matchups, total points, etc. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
ionel Posted December 4 Posted December 4 43 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: What will they ever do without his 3 points? Will losing Nagao make PSU better or bitter? .
TylerDurden Posted December 4 Posted December 4 8 minutes ago, nhs67 said: This doesn't take in to account the extra points that would be scored by everyone else at the weight without those gents in. Cornell undoubtedly would not get 72.5 points. They could get more or less, but they likely don't get 72.5 points. The brackets would still need to be wrestled, but with those six weights being redrawn it would change matchups, total points, etc. It doesn't account for a lot of things. Was simply a quick illustration to demonstrate the gap between PSU and everyone else and pat myself on the back for not sticking my foot in my mouth. There's an embarrassment of riches in Happy Valley these days. 2
Wrestleknownothing Posted December 4 Posted December 4 16 minutes ago, ionel said: Will losing Nagao make PSU better or bitter? It is all about the gratitude. They are even grateful for their injuries. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
Idaho Posted December 4 Posted December 4 LOL... So far this is the dumbest post of the week, but FauxJimmy2 still has time. Sponsored by INTERMAT
roguetrader Posted December 4 Posted December 4 5 hours ago, Pinnacle said: The premise of the thread is idiotic. Idiotic premise absolutely --- considering the source "entirely witless" might be more apt.
Mr. PeanutButter Posted December 4 Posted December 4 7 hours ago, TylerDurden said: I'm not sure even that would make it a race. PSU is deep, deep. I'm sure @Wrestleknownothing could run some numbers from his vast database, but my guess even if PSU lost Starocci and Haines that their backups, plus the remaining PSU starters, could still score enough to win.* *Now I'm going to look at last year's results to see if that has any foundation in reality. Edit: I looked. If you take Penn State's 2024 results and remove Brooks, Haines, Starocci, Truax, Nagao and Davis...they still total 82 points between Kerk, Bartlett, MM and Kasak. Cornell finished second with 72.5 last year. So without even speculating how many points they may get from Lilledahl, SVN, Barr, hypothetical replacements for Starocci and Haines...PSU is the favorite Damn. Alright, fine. Half the lineup (and a couple back ups) suffer an unfortunate and unprecedented hunting accident while out in the woods with Kasak. THEN we have a race.
MPhillips Posted December 4 Posted December 4 4 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said: Half the lineup (and a couple back ups) suffer an unfortunate and unprecedented hunting accident while out in the woods with Kasak. They shouldn't have invited Sam Stall... 1 .
AgaveMaria Posted December 5 Posted December 5 8 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: Should've stayed a gopher... If you are referencing Minnahaha - the original was actually a 13 lined Ground Squirrel. Maybe if they change for accuracy you can become a Squirrel? ” Never attribute to inspiration that which can be adequately explained by delusion”.
TylerDurden Posted December 5 Posted December 5 15 hours ago, Mr. PeanutButter said: Damn. Alright, fine. Half the lineup (and a couple back ups) suffer an unfortunate and unprecedented hunting accident while out in the woods with Kasak. THEN we have a race. Probably more like AJ Ferrari transfers in, a party happens, police are called, hostages are taken, the compound is raided, and everyone leaves with at least one gunshot wound. Then we have a race. 1
Winners Circle Posted December 5 Posted December 5 Yes. Penn State's backup 133 having a season ending injury opens up the team race. If the other teams don't get them now, because of this, they'll never get them.
Yotti4 Posted December 5 Posted December 5 On 12/4/2024 at 9:08 AM, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Cael reported Nagao has a very severe injury that required surgery and is out for the season (and maybe longer). Penn State has Braeden Davis at 133 but as we saw last year he is still hit or miss, especially up at a new weight. This means 133 could *potentially* be a non-AA weight like it was last year. Does this open up the team race a bit for a team like Iowa? Yes, Nagao being out while being PSU's top scorer would totally make this a race that you don't want to miss.
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