Chris Perry?

[jackwebster]

Where is he at?

[AnklePicker]

Iowa State

[H82Lose]

Iowa State, and they love him. 

[Hammerlock3]

54 minutes ago, H82Lose said:

Iowa State, and they love him. 

whats his position? Should be a pretty good indicator of their affection. 

[H82Lose]

1 hour ago, Hammerlock3 said:

whats his position? Should be a pretty good indicator of their affection. 

no official position right now, he has to wait until his OSU contract is done. I THINK that goes down this summer, do not quote me on that. But he has been doing a lot of one on one's with several of the kids. I am told he is really good at telling them what shots and style fits them best (the younger kids) and I am also told he is amazing at game planning. I would be shocked if he does not end up full time on the staff. I was not a big fan while he was at OSU, but I only seen the off the mat stuff. I can see now why Lockett, Carroll, Thompson and some of these kids like him as a coach. 

[wrestle87]

3 hours ago, H82Lose said:

no official position right now, he has to wait until his OSU contract is done. I THINK that goes down this summer, do not quote me on that. But he has been doing a lot of one on one's with several of the kids. I am told he is really good at telling them what shots and style fits them best (the younger kids) and I am also told he is amazing at game planning. I would be shocked if he does not end up full time on the staff. I was not a big fan while he was at OSU, but I only seen the off the mat stuff. I can see now why Lockett, Carroll, Thompson and some of these kids like him as a coach. 

This is awesome.  Hearing one or two of his interviews over the years, I was blown away by his level of understanding of the sport and the degree to which he understood both the technical and mental side of wrestling in his own way.  

The only person I've heard discuss wrestling in that level of detail and nuance is Ben Askren.

I felt similarly while he was at OSU, but the more I look back the more I feel like he really didn't have an option, "expected behavior" so to speak.

Iowa State seems to really be turning into one of those programs for coaches and wrestlers who just love wrestling.  

[pokemonster]

Isn't he like 330 lbs now? Potentially looking to become a nose tackle. 

[H82Lose]

23 hours ago, pokemonster said:

Isn't he like 330 lbs now? Potentially looking to become a nose tackle. 

2X national champ, I would eat whatever the F I wanted. 

[ionel]

17 minutes ago, H82Lose said:

2X national champ, I would eat whatever the F I wanted. 

What are you thoughts on drinking?

[flyingcement]

2 minutes ago, ionel said:

What are you thoughts on drinking?

[ionel]

If PBR is so wonderful then why has no one seen any sign of mFlap for almost a decade?  and ifn ur sayn he is stil around these hear forums ima gonna call ewe a liar 

Edited December 3 by ionel

[Wrestleknownothing]

5 minutes ago, ionel said:

If PBR is so wonderful then why has no one seen any sign of mFlap for almost a decade?  and ifn ur sayn he is stil around these hear forums ima gonna call ewe a liar 

Maybe he's not here because PBR was too wonderful.

[ionel]

4 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Maybe he's not here because PBR was too wonderful.

Edited December 3 by ionel

[H82Lose]

44 minutes ago, ionel said:

What are you thoughts on drinking?

That was the big hang up on him, too much extra stuff in his private life. I heard all kinds of stuff, and honestly, I have personally witnessed some.  Nothing major, he just likes to throw some back. I do not know about that now, I am hoping this was a humbling experience for him and he gets his stuff together and grows up.  I know a lot of guys at Stillwater that love him, dads and the kids, and I really never understood it. I mean, I didn't know how much he really knew. I hear now, that he is super knowledgable, positions, top, and strategy type stuff. The kids love him, and he fits right in. So, I apologize for the long answer, Drinking and etc......was always the problem, I have not heard anything about it from Ames, but AMes is a lot further away from me than Stilly. 

[Hammerlock3]

36 minutes ago, H82Lose said:

That was the big hang up on him, too much extra stuff in his private life. I heard all kinds of stuff, and honestly, I have personally witnessed some.  Nothing major, he just likes to throw some back. I do not know about that now, I am hoping this was a humbling experience for him and he gets his stuff together and grows up.  I know a lot of guys at Stillwater that love him, dads and the kids, and I really never understood it. I mean, I didn't know how much he really knew. I hear now, that he is super knowledgable, positions, top, and strategy type stuff. The kids love him, and he fits right in. So, I apologize for the long answer, Drinking and etc......was always the problem, I have not heard anything about it from Ames, but AMes is a lot further away from me than Stilly. 

you're kind of all over the place in this topic. One minute him and his titles can do what they want the next he needs to grow up...

[flyingcement]

37 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

you're kind of all over the place in this topic. One minute him and his titles can do what they want the next he needs to grow up...

to me it seem like H82Lose was making the assumption that his weight is a function of his eating habits more than drinking habits- and that considering he was a 2X national champ wrestler who likely had to undergo serious weightcutting, the comment was made on his part, to reflect that he had earned the right as an adult to forget about his waist line.

separately, he does not approve of perry's relationship with alcohol, but does not primarily attribute that to change in his physical state (rightly or wrongly - I dont think any of us are doctors).

but that's how I saw his comments which didn't present as contradictory in that manner

Edited December 3 by flyingcement

[H82Lose]

10 hours ago, flyingcement said:

to me it seem like H82Lose was making the assumption that his weight is a function of his eating habits more than drinking habits- and that considering he was a 2X national champ wrestler who likely had to undergo serious weightcutting, the comment was made on his part, to reflect that he had earned the right as an adult to forget about his waist line.

separately, he does not approve of perry's relationship with alcohol, but does not primarily attribute that to change in his physical state (rightly or wrongly - I dont think any of us are doctors).

but that's how I saw his comments which didn't present as contradictory in that manner

Thank you, I guess I am a poor communcator.  I just get a kick out of the OSU fans who would never say anything bad about him while he was a Cowboy, now, he is a fat, coke sniffing, cake eating, idiot. Honestly, I don't have an opinion either way about him. The guy that said he was a DL, was an OSU fan, I am ASSuming, hence why I said what I said. 

 

But you are correct, I associated FAT with food vs booze. 

[pokemonster]

1 hour ago, H82Lose said:

Thank you, I guess I am a poor communcator.  I just get a kick out of the OSU fans who would never say anything bad about him while he was a Cowboy, now, he is a fat, coke sniffing, cake eating, idiot. Honestly, I don't have an opinion either way about him. The guy that said he was a DL, was an OSU fan, I am ASSuming, hence why I said what I said. 

But you are correct, I associated FAT with food vs booze. 

I'm actually an Ohio State fan, but close! I was just teasing about the weight, I'd be eating whatever I wanted after cutting for years as well. 

[BloodRound]

Anyone got a recent pic?  He doesn't look THAT fat from any of the ones I saw on Google.

[H82Lose]

12 minutes ago, BloodRound said:

Anyone got a recent pic?  He doesn't look THAT fat from any of the ones I saw on Google.

well for what it is worth, he is working out a lot and living in the sauna. No pics, just updates. If the guy gets his off the mat *I poop my pants, don't laugh at me* together, he may land a really good position somewhere. Maybe? Lockett and company miss him, and that says a lot to me. The reason Carroll is at Iowa State is because of Perry. 

[Hammerlock3]

3 hours ago, H82Lose said:

Thank you, I guess I am a poor communcator.  I just get a kick out of the OSU fans who would never say anything bad about him while he was a Cowboy, now, he is a fat, coke sniffing, cake eating, idiot. Honestly, I don't have an opinion either way about him. The guy that said he was a DL, was an OSU fan, I am ASSuming, hence why I said what I said. 

 

But you are correct, I associated FAT with food vs booze. 

Again I'm not saying I can't reconcile the messages...but don't feel the need to defend me anytime soon.

[alex1fly]

16 hours ago, H82Lose said:

That was the big hang up on him, too much extra stuff in his private life. I heard all kinds of stuff, and honestly, I have personally witnessed some.  Nothing major, he just likes to throw some back. I do not know about that now, I am hoping this was a humbling experience for him and he gets his stuff together and grows up.  I know a lot of guys at Stillwater that love him, dads and the kids, and I really never understood it. I mean, I didn't know how much he really knew. I hear now, that he is super knowledgable, positions, top, and strategy type stuff. The kids love him, and he fits right in. So, I apologize for the long answer, Drinking and etc......was always the problem, I have not heard anything about it from Ames, but AMes is a lot further away from me than Stilly. 

Don't know about the personal life stuff but his time as coach at OSU coincides with many things on the mat: more injuries, more burnout, fewer techniques, fewer AAs and champs, senior level guys not staying around the program, and starters not needing to make weight until halfway through the season. Obviously he can't be blamed for all those things but he was certainly there for them. Just seemed like he was "learning how to be a coach" while at OSU, maybe he was hamstrung by John who knows, or maybe now he'll apply those things to Iowa State.

 

4 hours ago, H82Lose said:

Thank you, I guess I am a poor communcator.  I just get a kick out of the OSU fans who would never say anything bad about him while he was a Cowboy, now, he is a fat, coke sniffing, cake eating, idiot. Honestly, I don't have an opinion either way about him. The guy that said he was a DL, was an OSU fan, I am ASSuming, hence why I said what I said. 

 

But you are correct, I associated FAT with food vs booze. 

Who's calling him a fat coke sniffing cake eating idiot? I'll double leg them

Lol for real though you show up to the first dual of the season and one of your guys you've been seeing matside for like 8 years has doubled in size and has a swollen face - nope it's not a bee sting because it doesn't go away. Of course people talk!

Edited December 3 by alex1fly

[H82Lose]

21 minutes ago, alex1fly said:

Don't know about the personal life stuff but his time as coach at OSU coincides with many things on the mat: more injuries, more burnout, fewer techniques, fewer AAs and champs, senior level guys not staying around the program, and starters not needing to make weight until halfway through the season. Obviously he can't be blamed for all those things but he was certainly there for them. Just seemed like he was "learning how to be a coach" while at OSU, maybe he was hamstrung by John who knows, or maybe now he'll apply those things to Iowa State.

 

Who's calling him a fat coke sniffing cake eating idiot? I'll double leg them

Lol for real though you show up to the first dual of the season and one of your guys you've been seeing matside for like 8 years has doubled in size and has a swollen face - nope it's not a bee sting because it doesn't go away. Of course people talk!

Okie State is in a GREAT place now, IMO JS was great in his time, but times are a changin'. That staff is up there as one of the best in the country. This was prolly the best thing for CP, CHANGE. 

[H82Lose]

1 hour ago, Hammerlock3 said:

Again I'm not saying I can't reconcile the messages...but don't feel the need to defend me anytime soon.

Got it. 

[Husker_Du]

Chris Perry's my homeboy.