Iowa's lineup

[VakAttack]

1 hour ago, BAC said:

I dunno, I thought ISU was doing pretty good with making their case to guys after they enter the portal, like Bockman, Carroll, Echemendia. But they're totally getting outclassed by Iowa in the pre-portal poaching of other schools' multi-time AAs, enlisting donors to use massive NIL bribes to lure away rivals' top guys who weren't planning to transfer.  I think Dresser knows he needs to step it up on that front, and I think we can all agree that Iowa/Brands really leads the way on that.

I get that you dislike the Brands, but this is a truly haterade take.

[BAC]

15 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

I get that you dislike the Brands, but this is a truly haterade take.

I'm anti-poaching of guys who weren't looking to transfer, and I'm anti recruiting-over of homegrown guys who put in the time and achieved a high degree of success.  I have been, and will continue to be, vocally critical of any and every coach/program that does that.

The fact that these abhorrent practices happen to overlap with my general dislike of Iowa is mere fortuity.

[VakAttack]

15 minutes ago, BAC said:

I'm anti-poaching of guys who weren't looking to transfer, and I'm anti recruiting-over of homegrown guys who put in the time and achieved a high degree of success.  I have been, and will continue to be, vocally critical of any and every coach/program that does that.

The fact that these abhorrent practices happen to overlap with my general dislike of Iowa is mere fortuity.

Have i got some bad news for you about every major program, including the one you're going 10 toes down for right now. 

[Caveira]

40 minutes ago, BAC said:

I'm anti-poaching of guys who weren't looking to transfer, and I'm anti recruiting-over of homegrown guys who put in the time and achieved a high degree of success.  I have been, and will continue to be, vocally critical of any and every coach/program that does that.

The fact that these abhorrent practices happen to overlap with my general dislike of Iowa is mere fortuity.

Pretty snobby to look past psu doing it too.  

[BAC]

42 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Pretty snobby to look past psu doing it too.  

Looking past how?  I'm pretty sure this thread is titled "Iowa's Lineup."  I'm guessing you haven't seen my posts about Dean/Beard or the rumors about Keckeisen. There's a reason I've rooted for Beard ever since.

But even Dean/Beard pales in comparison to, say, Glazier/Buchanan. It was pre-NIL (so no $), Dean wasn't "stolen away" (he was already looking to move), and the extent of PSU's role in Dean's decision was never verified. But Glazier was a 6th year senior, a loyal Hawk with black and gold in his veins, who was poised to make a high-AA run after a 20-4 season, who was unceremoniously run out of Iowa City after Iowa sicced their donors on the #1 guy who wasn't even looking to transfer.  

And that's without even getting into the 7 combined AA finishes of Parco/Teemer, two guys who also weren't looking to take their last year of eligibility at anywhere but ASU until some Mr.-Monopoly-Looking donor dude from Iowa showed up with bags of cash in his hands.

Barf. Honestly, if Iowa was my team, I wouldn't even be able to cheer for their wins.

Yes, the portal and NIL is the new normal. But poaching guys not in the portal isn't normal and need not be, and spitting on the loyalty of home-grown high-achievers isn't normal and need not be.

Fact is, on these latter tactics, Iowa is a league of its own.  You can say "everyone's doing it" but that just isn't true. When it comes to hunting down their rivals' top guys who are NOT in the portal, and using donors' money to yank them away, without the slightest semblance of loyalty to longtime high achievers already in their stable, Iowa's at the top of the mountain, and no one else is close.  It's truly something to behold.

Edited Friday at 08:31 PM by BAC

[1032004]

1 hour ago, BAC said:

Looking past how?  I'm pretty sure this thread is titled "Iowa's Lineup."  I'm guessing you haven't seen my posts about Dean/Beard or the rumors about Keckeisen. There's a reason I've rooted for Beard ever since.

But even Dean/Beard pales in comparison to, say, Glazier/Buchanan. It was pre-NIL (so no $), Dean wasn't "stolen away" (he was already looking to move), and the extent of PSU's role in Dean's decision was never verified. But Glazier was a 6th year senior, a loyal Hawk with black and gold in his veins, who was poised to make a high-AA run after a 20-4 season, who was unceremoniously run out of Iowa City after Iowa sicced their donors on the #1 guy who wasn't even looking to transfer.  

And that's without even getting into the 7 combined AA finishes of Parco/Teemer, two guys who also weren't looking to take their last year of eligibility at anywhere but ASU until some Mr.-Monopoly-Looking donor dude from Iowa showed up with bags of cash in his hands.

Barf. Honestly, if Iowa was my team, I wouldn't even be able to cheer for their wins.

Yes, the portal and NIL is the new normal. But poaching guys not in the portal isn't normal and need not be, and spitting on the loyalty of home-grown high-achievers isn't normal and need not be.

Fact is, on these latter tactics, Iowa is a league of its own.  You can say "everyone's doing it" but that just isn't true. When it comes to hunting down their rivals' top guys who are NOT in the portal, and using donors' money to yank them away, without the slightest semblance of loyalty to longtime high achievers already in their stable, Iowa's at the top of the mountain, and no one else is close.  It's truly something to behold.

Parco was in the portal

[nhs67]

Just now, 1032004 said:

Parco was in the portal

Also ignored was the fact that their NIL dried up, so unless they were okay making pennies in comparison to the years prior - they were going to go bag hunting.

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, BAC said:

Barf. Honestly, if Iowa was my team, I wouldn't even be able to cheer for their wins.

You seem to think you know a lot.  Either way Iowa doesn’t want or need you cheering for them.