VakAttack Posted November 29 Posted November 29 1 hour ago, BAC said: I dunno, I thought ISU was doing pretty good with making their case to guys after they enter the portal, like Bockman, Carroll, Echemendia. But they're totally getting outclassed by Iowa in the pre-portal poaching of other schools' multi-time AAs, enlisting donors to use massive NIL bribes to lure away rivals' top guys who weren't planning to transfer. I think Dresser knows he needs to step it up on that front, and I think we can all agree that Iowa/Brands really leads the way on that. I get that you dislike the Brands, but this is a truly haterade take.
BAC Posted November 29 Posted November 29 15 minutes ago, VakAttack said: I get that you dislike the Brands, but this is a truly haterade take. I'm anti-poaching of guys who weren't looking to transfer, and I'm anti recruiting-over of homegrown guys who put in the time and achieved a high degree of success. I have been, and will continue to be, vocally critical of any and every coach/program that does that. The fact that these abhorrent practices happen to overlap with my general dislike of Iowa is mere fortuity. 3
VakAttack Posted November 29 Posted November 29 15 minutes ago, BAC said: I'm anti-poaching of guys who weren't looking to transfer, and I'm anti recruiting-over of homegrown guys who put in the time and achieved a high degree of success. I have been, and will continue to be, vocally critical of any and every coach/program that does that. The fact that these abhorrent practices happen to overlap with my general dislike of Iowa is mere fortuity. Have i got some bad news for you about every major program, including the one you're going 10 toes down for right now. 1
Caveira Posted November 29 Posted November 29 40 minutes ago, BAC said: I'm anti-poaching of guys who weren't looking to transfer, and I'm anti recruiting-over of homegrown guys who put in the time and achieved a high degree of success. I have been, and will continue to be, vocally critical of any and every coach/program that does that. The fact that these abhorrent practices happen to overlap with my general dislike of Iowa is mere fortuity. Pretty snobby to look past psu doing it too.
BAC Posted November 29 Posted November 29 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Caveira said: Pretty snobby to look past psu doing it too. Looking past how? I'm pretty sure this thread is titled "Iowa's Lineup." I'm guessing you haven't seen my posts about Dean/Beard or the rumors about Keckeisen. There's a reason I've rooted for Beard ever since. But even Dean/Beard pales in comparison to, say, Glazier/Buchanan. It was pre-NIL (so no $), Dean wasn't "stolen away" (he was already looking to move), and the extent of PSU's role in Dean's decision was never verified. But Glazier was a 6th year senior, a loyal Hawk with black and gold in his veins, who was poised to make a high-AA run after a 20-4 season, who was unceremoniously run out of Iowa City after Iowa sicced their donors on the #1 guy who wasn't even looking to transfer. And that's without even getting into the 7 combined AA finishes of Parco/Teemer, two guys who also weren't looking to take their last year of eligibility at anywhere but ASU until some Mr.-Monopoly-Looking donor dude from Iowa showed up with bags of cash in his hands. Barf. Honestly, if Iowa was my team, I wouldn't even be able to cheer for their wins. Yes, the portal and NIL is the new normal. But poaching guys not in the portal isn't normal and need not be, and spitting on the loyalty of home-grown high-achievers isn't normal and need not be. Fact is, on these latter tactics, Iowa is a league of its own. You can say "everyone's doing it" but that just isn't true. When it comes to hunting down their rivals' top guys who are NOT in the portal, and using donors' money to yank them away, without the slightest semblance of loyalty to longtime high achievers already in their stable, Iowa's at the top of the mountain, and no one else is close. It's truly something to behold. Edited November 29 by BAC
1032004 Posted November 29 Posted November 29 1 hour ago, BAC said: Looking past how? I'm pretty sure this thread is titled "Iowa's Lineup." I'm guessing you haven't seen my posts about Dean/Beard or the rumors about Keckeisen. There's a reason I've rooted for Beard ever since. But even Dean/Beard pales in comparison to, say, Glazier/Buchanan. It was pre-NIL (so no $), Dean wasn't "stolen away" (he was already looking to move), and the extent of PSU's role in Dean's decision was never verified. But Glazier was a 6th year senior, a loyal Hawk with black and gold in his veins, who was poised to make a high-AA run after a 20-4 season, who was unceremoniously run out of Iowa City after Iowa sicced their donors on the #1 guy who wasn't even looking to transfer. And that's without even getting into the 7 combined AA finishes of Parco/Teemer, two guys who also weren't looking to take their last year of eligibility at anywhere but ASU until some Mr.-Monopoly-Looking donor dude from Iowa showed up with bags of cash in his hands. Barf. Honestly, if Iowa was my team, I wouldn't even be able to cheer for their wins. Yes, the portal and NIL is the new normal. But poaching guys not in the portal isn't normal and need not be, and spitting on the loyalty of home-grown high-achievers isn't normal and need not be. Fact is, on these latter tactics, Iowa is a league of its own. You can say "everyone's doing it" but that just isn't true. When it comes to hunting down their rivals' top guys who are NOT in the portal, and using donors' money to yank them away, without the slightest semblance of loyalty to longtime high achievers already in their stable, Iowa's at the top of the mountain, and no one else is close. It's truly something to behold. Parco was in the portal 2
nhs67 Posted November 29 Posted November 29 Just now, 1032004 said: Parco was in the portal Also ignored was the fact that their NIL dried up, so unless they were okay making pennies in comparison to the years prior - they were going to go bag hunting. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
Caveira Posted November 29 Posted November 29 1 hour ago, BAC said: Barf. Honestly, if Iowa was my team, I wouldn't even be able to cheer for their wins. You seem to think you know a lot. Either way Iowa doesn’t want or need you cheering for them.
Wrestleknownothing Posted December 2 Author Posted December 2 wrestlestat has removed Teemer from their rankings and put the med redshirt icon next to his name. I have no idea if that is correct or not. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
MNRodent Posted December 2 Posted December 2 8 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: wrestlestat has removed Teemer from their rankings and put the med redshirt icon next to his name. I have no idea if that is correct or not. Has Bob added a worker's compensation insurance program for the Hawkeyes?
Pinnacle Posted December 2 Posted December 2 18 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: wrestlestat has removed Teemer from their rankings and put the med redshirt icon next to his name. I have no idea if that is correct or not. So he will get an 8th year?
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted December 2 Posted December 2 16 minutes ago, Pinnacle said: So he will get an 8th year? Only seven. One more than Starocci.
Pinnacle Posted December 2 Posted December 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: Only seven. One more than Starocci. Really? Wrestlestat link indicates this is year 7 already. If he is getting a Medical RS, wouldn't the next year have to be year 8? https://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/50581/teemer-jacori/profile?live=true Edited December 2 by Pinnacle
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted December 2 Posted December 2 1 minute ago, Pinnacle said: Really? Wrestlestat link indicates this is year 7 already. If he is getting a Medical RS, wouldn't the next year have to be year 8? https://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/50581/teemer-jacori/profile?live=true You are correct! Bad day for me. Too much Turkey (and other things) last week! Year 8 indeed. Time to move on...
Wrestleknownothing Posted December 2 Author Posted December 2 BTW, I asked over on the Iowa board and they seem pretty convinced he will return this season. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
ionel Posted December 2 Posted December 2 14 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: BTW, I asked over on the Iowa board and they seem pretty convinced he will return this season. Jimmy? .
Wrestleknownothing Posted December 2 Author Posted December 2 7 minutes ago, ionel said: Jimmy? I have been trying to figure out who Jimmy is on the Rivals boards. Any theories? 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
ionel Posted December 2 Posted December 2 4 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: I have been trying to figure out who Jimmy is on the Rivals boards. Any theories? No I don't spend much time over there. .
CHROMEBIRD Posted December 2 Posted December 2 1 hour ago, Pinnacle said: Really? Wrestlestat link indicates this is year 7 already. If he is getting a Medical RS, wouldn't the next year have to be year 8? https://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/50581/teemer-jacori/profile?live=true Wrestling's own DeJuan Clayton. Yeesh.
WrestlingFan89 Posted December 4 Posted December 4 With the wind right now gusting up to 40 mph out of the northwest here in Sioux Falls, it has me thinking….:..Iowa sucks!
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