Caveira Posted September 8 Posted September 8 https://www.essentiallysports.com/us-sports-news-olympics-news-wrestling-news-backing-david-taylor-sebastian-rivera-predicts-downfall-of-penn-state-wrestling-everyone-is-leaving/ says in this article “Rivera also disclosed that he had received a call from none other than Bo Nickal, requesting him to join PSU as a wrestler.” Only Iowa does things like that I was told….. Other interesting tid bits in the article as well
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 8 Posted September 8 9 minutes ago, Caveira said: https://www.essentiallysports.com/us-sports-news-olympics-news-wrestling-news-backing-david-taylor-sebastian-rivera-predicts-downfall-of-penn-state-wrestling-everyone-is-leaving/ says in this article “Rivera also disclosed that he had received a call from none other than Bo Nickal, requesting him to join PSU as a wrestler.” Only Iowa does things like that I was told….. Other interesting tid bits in the article as well Beat me to it. Also they allegedly contacted Keckheisen and offered him 'an obscene amount of money' to join their squat in '23-'24. Both cases seem to be done with proxies, which may have been legal (who knows what the rules are now, let alone in the past?). However, PSU is definitely in the poaching game. People associated with PSU are actively poaching guys, some of whom were definitely not in the portal. 1
BAC Posted September 8 Posted September 8 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Caveira said: https://www.essentiallysports.com/us-sports-news-olympics-news-wrestling-news-backing-david-taylor-sebastian-rivera-predicts-downfall-of-penn-state-wrestling-everyone-is-leaving/ says in this article “Rivera also disclosed that he had received a call from none other than Bo Nickal, requesting him to join PSU as a wrestler.” Only Iowa does things like that I was told….. Other interesting tid bits in the article as well Maybe I'm misremembering, but I'm pretty sure Rivera is out if eligibility... Come on man. Calling an Olympic medalist years after they graduate to see if they want to join your wrestling club (NLWC) isn't exactly the same thing as paying an active wrestler to displace your 25-4 6th year senior on your college team. Edited September 8 by BAC
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 8 Posted September 8 19 minutes ago, headshuck said: You don’t think Nagao was poached too do you? Absolutely, but he at least pretended to handle it like a second recruitment. Looks like he might lose his job this year, too. All part of God's plan, I'm sure. The difference with Rivera and Keck is that we have reports of PSU associates initiating contact. 1
Caveira Posted September 8 Author Posted September 8 The article says wrestle for PSU not nlwc. I’m inclined to believe this was a poaching request back when he had eligibility. 2
BAC Posted September 8 Posted September 8 2 minutes ago, Caveira said: The article says wrestle for PSU not nlwc. I’m inclined to believe this was a poaching request back when he had eligibility. That's because the article is garbage. Did you read it? It looks like it was written by a beta version of the world's crappiest AI engine. The context is they were talking about recent events. It was NLWC and it was post-grad. 1
Caveira Posted September 8 Author Posted September 8 Free chat gpt knows the diff between psu wrestling and the nlwc…. I asked it. Sure the article is written a little poorly. Check some other threads were kind of a niche sport…. It’s not like ESPN has staff writers waiting around to write articles about this. Even if the writer has room for improvement. Sebastian said it. He in fact transferred. It’s possible they tried to poach him and made a lame attempt to recruit over Robbie Howard…. I mean Carl has recruited over returning AAs….. and Robbie wasn’t exactly looking like podium material.
Idaho Posted September 8 Posted September 8 1 hour ago, Caveira said: https://www.essentiallysports.com/us-sports-news-olympics-news-wrestling-news-backing-david-taylor-sebastian-rivera-predicts-downfall-of-penn-state-wrestling-everyone-is-leaving/ says in this article “Rivera also disclosed that he had received a call from none other than Bo Nickal, requesting him to join PSU as a wrestler.” Only Iowa does things like that I was told….. Other interesting tid bits in the article as well When you're a grad student and a free agent that is completely acceptable. I am surprised that people choose to not know the difference between the situations. Sponsored by INTERMAT
BAC Posted September 8 Posted September 8 35 minutes ago, Caveira said: Free chat gpt knows the diff between psu wrestling and the nlwc…. I asked it. Sure the article is written a little poorly. Check some other threads were kind of a niche sport…. It’s not like ESPN has staff writers waiting around to write articles about this. Even if the writer has room for improvement. Sebastian said it. He in fact transferred. It’s possible they tried to poach him and made a lame attempt to recruit over Robbie Howard…. I mean Carl has recruited over returning AAs….. and Robbie wasn’t exactly looking like podium material. Come on man. Why are you so aggressively insistent on posting lies? Just listen to the actual audio of the podcast they're writing about. It starts at 30:30: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDRAd2kDVIk "They actually, they texted me, Bo Nickal. You wanna come down, after the Olympics, you wanna come down to NLWC?"
nhs67 Posted September 8 Posted September 8 2 hours ago, Caveira said: https://www.essentiallysports.com/us-sports-news-olympics-news-wrestling-news-backing-david-taylor-sebastian-rivera-predicts-downfall-of-penn-state-wrestling-everyone-is-leaving/ says in this article “Rivera also disclosed that he had received a call from none other than Bo Nickal, requesting him to join PSU as a wrestler.” Only Iowa does things like that I was told….. Other interesting tid bits in the article as well If that is what you were told, or read on these forums, then you are only paying attention to anti-Iowa rhetoric. That is a you thing. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
1032004 Posted September 8 Posted September 8 29 minutes ago, BAC said: Come on man. Why are you so aggressively insistent on posting lies? Just listen to the actual audio of the podcast they're writing about. It starts at 30:30: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDRAd2kDVIk "They actually, they texted me, Bo Nickal. You wanna come down, after the Olympics, you wanna come down to NLWC?" This. The article is clearly referring to the podcast, which only referred to recently. So no issue with that. If they tried to get Keckeisen however, yes that would be Iowa-level. 2
BAC Posted September 8 Posted September 8 26 minutes ago, 1032004 said: If they tried to get Keckeisen however, yes that would be Iowa-level. Considering the quality of the sources on this thread, I'm not holding my breath. 1
WildTurk Posted September 8 Posted September 8 This thread needs deleted. Only Iowa can be torched for these things.
Wrestleknownothing Posted September 8 Posted September 8 8 minutes ago, WildTurk said: This thread needs deleted. Only Iowa can be torched for these things. You think THAT is the problem with the thread? 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
Jason Bryant Posted September 8 Posted September 8 The video is what it is … but if you ever see anything from “Essentially Sports” you can skip it. It’s designed to generate clicks with AI generated sensationalized headlines. 2 1 Insert catchy tagline here.
flyingcement Posted September 8 Posted September 8 Good news is that allegedly, the only incentives provided to Seabass were tomatoes and pesto, which is above board for me. 1
Wrestleknownothing Posted September 8 Posted September 8 3 hours ago, Caveira said: https://www.essentiallysports.com/us-sports-news-olympics-news-wrestling-news-backing-david-taylor-sebastian-rivera-predicts-downfall-of-penn-state-wrestling-everyone-is-leaving/ says in this article “Rivera also disclosed that he had received a call from none other than Bo Nickal, requesting him to join PSU as a wrestler.” Only Iowa does things like that I was told….. Other interesting tid bits in the article as well I hate you for making me read that piece of garbage article. Every sentence is a hot mess of very poor AI writing. How you can read that and think it was about college is beyond me. 1 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
Hammerlock3 Posted September 8 Posted September 8 3 hours ago, headshuck said: You don’t think Nagao was poached too do you? And he got worse btw! 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
1032004 Posted September 8 Posted September 8 1 hour ago, BAC said: Considering the quality of the sources on this thread, I'm not holding my breath. That seemed to be an unrelated claim. @Interviewed_at_Weehawken where did you hear that?
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 9 Posted September 9 (edited) 5 hours ago, 1032004 said: That seemed to be an unrelated claim. @Interviewed_at_Weehawken where did you hear that? Athletor podcast. Doug Schwab episode. Mike Mal says to Schwab 'I won't mention any names... but he might have received a phone call and an offer of a good chunk of change to leave and go somewhere that "might sound like Penn State'" I don't think he means Kent State. He didn't take the bait; they went with Truax instead. Edited September 9 by Interviewed_at_Weehawken
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 9 Posted September 9 (edited) 29:20 No, he doesn't come right out and say it, but I think it is pretty clear what he means. Schwab did not try to correct him either. Edited September 9 by Interviewed_at_Weehawken
Hammerlock3 Posted September 9 Posted September 9 28 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: 29:20 No, he doesn't come right out and say it, but I think it is pretty clear what he means. Schwab did not try to correct him either. If I ever needed to create some gratitude for pyles it would just take a few seconds of watching MM posture. 2 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 9 Posted September 9 1 minute ago, Hammerlock3 said: If I ever needed to create some gratitude for pyles it would just take a few seconds of watching MM posture. haha I listen to a lot of podcasts... MM does a ton of posturing every episode. But he does have some good guests and does manage to cover some interesting stuff.
Hammerlock3 Posted September 9 Posted September 9 11 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: haha I listen to a lot of podcasts... MM does a ton of posturing every episode. But he does have some good guests and does manage to cover some interesting stuff. well he's raised himself in my estimation, however I will not be confirming this personally. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
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