Is Mitchell Mesenbrink the smartest + best overall wrestler?

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

He finished 2nd at 157 this year and achieved a 4.0 GPA.  Impressive.

[fishbane]

No he didn't.

[Wrestleknownothing]

  On 7/26/2024 at 6:17 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

He finished 2nd at 157 this year and achieved a 4.0 GPA.  Impressive.

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He has the smartest glasses

[Fletcher]

Still can't believe Hamiti let that Big Ten match get away from him. Hamiti holds on and wins that, then he's opposite bracket from Carr and straight path to the NCAA finals, while Mesinbrink would have to go thru Carr and O'Toole.

Back on topic - I'd probably say smartest would be any pre-med or engineering kid with a high GPA. I don't know Mesinbrink's major, but I expect classes at PSU are easier than at the Ivies.

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

  On 7/26/2024 at 8:09 PM, Fletcher said:

Still can't believe Hamiti let that Big Ten match get away from him. Hamiti holds on and wins that, then he's opposite bracket from Carr and straight path to the NCAA finals, while Mesinbrink would have to go thru Carr and O'Toole.

Back on topic - I'd probably say smartest would be any pre-med or engineering kid with a high GPA. I don't know Mesinbrink's major, but I expect classes at PSU are easier than at the Ivies.

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But the topic is overall performance - NCAA wrestling + grades.  Any Ivy league wrestlers perform very well on the mat and in the class room? Would Meyer Shapiro be the best bet?

[flyingcement]

  On 7/26/2024 at 8:33 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

But the topic is overall performance - NCAA wrestling + grades.  Any Ivy league wrestlers perform very well on the mat and in the class room? Would Meyer Shapiro be the best bet?

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Dustin Plot has a 4.03 GPA

[flyingcement]

Also if Mesenbrink was so smart, shouldn't he have known the score in his own finals match?  Or maybe he's better with the arts than sciences?

[Fletcher]

  On 7/26/2024 at 8:50 PM, flyingcement said:

Also if Mesenbrink was so smart, shouldn't he have known the score in his own finals match?  Or maybe he's better with the arts than sciences?

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I can't believe I didn't think of this joke first. Dammit!

[ionel]

  On 7/26/2024 at 9:00 PM, Fletcher said:

I can't believe I didn't think of this joke first. Dammit!

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Joke ... wait ... thought you weren't that guy?  

Edited July 26, 2024 by ionel

[Hammerlock3]

Has it been mentioned that he was too dumb to remember riding time?

And on a more serious note, 4.0 GPA doesn't mean anything. People who know which courses to take, and are good at school, can do this with very little effort. If he's in a STEM field with a 4.0 thats a big deal.

Edited July 27, 2024 by Hammerlock3

[ionel]

  On 7/26/2024 at 6:17 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

He finished 2nd at 157 this year and achieved a 4.0 GPA.  Impressive.

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Major?

[jackwebster]

  On 7/27/2024 at 3:19 PM, Hammerlock3 said:

 If he's in a STEM field with a 4.0 thats a big deal.

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Obligatory defense of the humanities: Kant is hard.

[MidniteToka]

  On 7/26/2024 at 8:09 PM, Fletcher said:

Still can't believe Hamiti let that Big Ten match get away from him. Hamiti holds on and wins that, then he's opposite bracket from Carr and straight path to the NCAA finals, while Mesinbrink would have to go thru Carr and O'Toole.

Back on topic - I'd probably say smartest would be any pre-med or engineering kid with a high GPA. I don't know Mesinbrink's major, but I expect classes at PSU are easier than at the Ivies.

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Or at Stanford, or Lehigh, or the Service Academies, or...

[Wildcat92]

  On 7/27/2024 at 6:39 PM, ionel said:

Major?

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Per the PSU roster, hes a liberal arts major

[Hammerlock3]

  On 7/28/2024 at 12:33 PM, jackwebster said:

Obligatory defense of the humanities: Kant is hard.

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I periodically try to break my brain reading nietzsche for 2 minutes.

[ionel]

  On 7/28/2024 at 3:07 PM, Wildcat92 said:

Per the PSU roster, hes a liberal arts major

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ohh ... that sounds hard!  What do you do with a liberal arts degree? 

[Wrestleknownothing]

  On 7/28/2024 at 4:00 PM, ionel said:

ohh ... that sounds hard!  What do you do with a liberal arts degree? 

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Whatever it is I do.

[jackwebster]

  On 7/28/2024 at 4:00 PM, ionel said:

ohh ... that sounds hard!  What do you do with a liberal arts degree? 

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Think about how the Enlightenment spawned German Romantic thought that gave rise to both the nationalist and socialist movements ultimately resulting in the deaths of millions upon millions of people in the early 20th C, and then stare dumbfounded as millions upon millions of people use terms like nationalism and socialism without having a clue what they mean.

[ionel]

  On 7/28/2024 at 4:04 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

Whatever it is I do.

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  On 7/28/2024 at 4:39 PM, jackwebster said:

Think about how the Enlightenment spawned German Romantic thought that gave rise to both the nationalist and socialist movements ultimately resulting in the deaths of millions upon millions of people in the early 20th C, and then stare dumbfounded as millions upon millions of people use terms like nationalism and socialism without having a clue what they mean.

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[Wrestleknownothing]

  On 7/28/2024 at 4:39 PM, jackwebster said:

Think about how the Enlightenment spawned German Romantic thought that gave rise to both the nationalist and socialist movements ultimately resulting in the deaths of millions upon millions of people in the early 20th C, and then stare dumbfounded as millions upon millions of people use terms like nationalism and socialism without having a clue what they mean.

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Are you really drawing a line from liberal arts degrees to the deaths of millions?

[MPhillips]

  On 7/28/2024 at 4:39 PM, jackwebster said:

then stare dumbfounded as millions upon millions of people use terms like nationalism and socialism without having a clue what they mean.

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'The' Non Wrestling Topics forum posters...

[jackwebster]

  On 7/28/2024 at 5:14 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

Are you really drawing a line from liberal arts degrees to the deaths of millions?

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I'm saying that my liberal arts degree helped me understand the guillotine as one logical end to the intellectual movement birthed by stuff like Francis Bacon's The Great Instauration, I.e. the unfashioable "The Great Man Theory of History." And, my liberal arts degree helped me understand that this theory has a lot of problems worth thinking about. 

Edit: In short, my liberal arts degree has made my world interesting enough to wake up every day and think about it some more.

Edited July 28, 2024 by jackwebster

[Rassling]

How about best wrestler whose mature and articulate beyond his years while being most humble about it. Does that qualify?

[ionel]

  On 7/28/2024 at 5:45 PM, MPhillips said:

'The' Non Wrestling Topics forum posters...

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MP, we live in a world with forums ...

[Wrestleknownothing]

  On 7/28/2024 at 6:02 PM, jackwebster said:

I'm saying that my liberal arts degree helped me understand the guillotine as one logical end to the the intellectual movement birthed by stuff like Francis Bacon's The Great Instauration.

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That might be the most pretentiously liberal arts sentence ever written.