Its over. Joe Biden is stepping down

[Paul158]

Joe is stepping down. What say you.

[Ohio Elite]

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

  On 7/21/2024 at 5:54 PM, Paul158 said:

Joe is stepping down. What say you.

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It is the right thing to do at the wrong time.

But I am of two minds on this.

He erred tremendously by not allowing for a viable candidate to emerge from the primary process. Whoever winds up as the Democratic nominee will likely need to address whether they are legitimate. On the other hand, I am not a huge fan of the extended nature of our elections. Perhaps the Democrats will benefit from a shortened process, whatever that process winds up being.

[Offthemat]

  On 7/21/2024 at 6:25 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

It is the right thing to do at the wrong time.

…whatever  that  process winds  up being . 

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Will be extremely unlikely to be democratic. 

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[TylerDurden]

  On 7/21/2024 at 6:25 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

It is the right thing to do at the wrong time.

But I am of two minds on this.

He erred tremendously by not allowing for a viable candidate to emerge from the primary process. Whoever winds up as the Democratic nominee will likely need to address whether they are legitimate. On the other hand, I am not a huge fan of the extended nature of our elections. Perhaps the Democrats will benefit from a shortened process, whatever that process winds up being.

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Agree with all of this. 

The selection process could get messy in a very public way. 

[WrestlingRasta]

Has there ever been a deeper four years of election drama than the past four.  Can’t possibly think so.  

[Paul158]

  On 7/21/2024 at 6:35 PM, WrestlingRasta said:

Has there ever been a deeper four years of election drama than the past four.  Can’t possibly think so.  

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I think this election season wins hands down. No contest.

[headshuck]

Dean Phillips must be the only fair democracy option?

[Paul158]

  On 7/21/2024 at 6:32 PM, TylerDurden said:

Agree with all of this. 

The selection process could get messy in a very public way. 

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Here comes the battle. If Kamala doesn't get picked it could be World War 3. 

[headshuck]

Nah, everyone has their price. Maybe a $50M “book deal.”

[Caveira]

My bet is it is someone who did not run in the primary.  Everyone knew his brain was soup and that Kamala is unelectable.    Given that….   Michelle or hillary.   

[Offthemat]

  On 7/21/2024 at 6:49 PM, Paul158 said:

Here comes the battle. If Kamala doesn't get picked it could be World War 3. 

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Some states have deadlines for getting on the ballot that fall before the convention.  If Kamela isn’t chosen will she resort to the 25th Amendment?

[uncle bernard]

It will be Kamala and she’s going to win. The suburbs will fall in line for her.

[Paul158]

  On 7/21/2024 at 6:25 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

It is the right thing to do at the wrong time.

But I am of two minds on this.

He erred tremendously by not allowing for a viable candidate to emerge from the primary process. Whoever winds up as the Democratic nominee will likely need to address whether they are legitimate. On the other hand, I am not a huge fan of the extended nature of our elections. Perhaps the Democrats will benefit from a shortened process, whatever that process winds up being.

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You would have thought Joe Biden would have remembered Ruth Bader Ginsberg when she refused to stepdown giving President Obama a good chance of getting a progressive Supreme Court Justice on the Court.

[Caveira]

Kamala molded her vp style this term after Julia Louis Dreyfus.     She’s less popular than Biden and will lose.  
 

 

[Caveira]

Also this 

[Paul158]

  On 7/21/2024 at 6:55 PM, Offthemat said:

Some states have deadlines for getting on the ballot that fall before the convention.  If Kamela isn’t chosen will she resort to the 25th Amendment?

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This is going to get really messy. Guaranteed.

[Paul158]

  On 7/21/2024 at 6:56 PM, uncle bernard said:

It will be Kamala and she’s going to win. The suburbs will fall in line for her.

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Are you being cynical?

[Paul158]

  On 7/21/2024 at 6:50 PM, headshuck said:

Nah, everyone has their price. Maybe a $50M “book deal.”

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Also a huge Library in his name in Delaware.

[uncle bernard]

  On 7/21/2024 at 7:00 PM, Paul158 said:

This is going to get really messy. Guaranteed.

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It won’t. 

Any legal challenge by the republicans would 

1) fail

2) alienate moderate suburbanites

And they know this. It’s a last ditch bluff to try to scare Biden into staying. 

This race just became competitive again. 

[PortaJohn]

  On 7/21/2024 at 6:56 PM, uncle bernard said:

It will be Kamala and she’s going to win. The suburbs will fall in line for her.

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That's wishful thinking and highly unlikely.  She's from California.  That doesn't play well in the Midwestern states that Democrats have to sweep to win the election 

[PortaJohn]

  On 7/21/2024 at 6:25 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

It is the right thing to do at the wrong time.

But I am of two minds on this.

He erred tremendously by not allowing for a viable candidate to emerge from the primary process. Whoever winds up as the Democratic nominee will likely need to address whether they are legitimate. On the other hand, I am not a huge fan of the extended nature of our elections. Perhaps the Democrats will benefit from a shortened process, whatever that process winds up being.

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There's only one Dem name I've heard that can win and that Gretchen Whitmer from Michigan.  

[uncle bernard]

  On 7/21/2024 at 7:03 PM, Paul158 said:

Are you being cynical?

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No, I just think people forgot how unpopular trump is because he was running against an incapacitated opponent. 

[Caveira]

Biden arguably speaks better than Kamala.   This will be a circus.  I live in Chicago may leave town for the convention shyte show…. Protests.   Likely riots.   Antifa.  The pro terrorist crowd.  They are all gonna show.   

[Husker_Du]

  On 7/21/2024 at 6:51 PM, Caveira said:

My bet is it is someone who did not run in the primary.  Everyone knew his brain was soup and that Kamala is unelectable.    Given that….   Michelle or hillary.   

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what primary?

that's my biggest issue with this whole thing.