Hammerlock3 Posted July 2 Posted July 2 As we all know the left is in turmoil because they can't find a decent candidate to run against Trump, who is a pretty absurd figure. Why can't they? 1) All the momentum within the democratic party is on the extreme, economically moronic, oppressor/oppressed narrative is everything, utopian Marxist end. Any who catches that lightening is going to be DOA. No moderates allowed. 2) Because they are so far down the utopian rabbit hole, the democratic party hasn't elevated anyone who isn't willing to pass counterfactual purity tests to the point where they look like complete imbeciles. Why was the incompetent and ridiculous Kamala made VP? Because she's dumb enough to parrot anything. This is virtue in the democratic party. The right isn't much better, it has a significant problem with caring more about "owning the libs" than about actual policy, but its clear which side is more radicalized and potentially harmful. 3 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
Hammerlock3 Posted July 2 Author Posted July 2 PS- I can put it this way, the left has no ability to police itself, they're continually trying to outflank each other to the left and haven't established what "too far" is. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
Danny Deck Posted July 2 Posted July 2 Had Biden announced he wasn't running again after the mid-terms, I think they would have had lots of options. Biden saying he was running prevented them from finding a decent candidate. Now they have logistical problems as much as they have trouble identifying a candidate. Whitmer and Shapiro are popular governors of important electoral states and seem like they'll be early front runners for 2028 regardless of what happens this year. I like Jared Polis. I'm sure they wouldn't be palatable enough to the national Democratic party, but from an electoral success standpoint, Andy Beshear and Roy Cooper have both won governorships twice in red states. I just hope it doesn't end up being some senator who hasn't actually had to get anything done other than make speeches.
Wrestleknownothing Posted July 2 Posted July 2 Democrats have painted themselves into a difficult corner. Either proceed with a clearly diminished Biden, or move forward with a candidate that was not chosen by voters 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
Offthemat Posted July 2 Posted July 2 If Biden drops out now, Kamel Hairs gets the $100 million in campaign funds.
PortaJohn Posted July 2 Posted July 2 1 hour ago, Danny Deck said: Whitmer and Shapiro are popular governors of important electoral states and seem like they'll be early front runners for 2028 regardless of what happens this year. Shapiro has absolutely zero chance of winning the ticket for the Dems. I Don't Agree With What I Posted
Offthemat Posted July 2 Posted July 2 Dean Phillips didn’t get much traction. The dimocrats will do well to beat RFK.
Danny Deck Posted July 2 Posted July 2 49 minutes ago, Offthemat said: Dean Phillips didn’t get much traction. The dimocrats will do well to beat RFK. Things look bad for the Democrats, but the implied 50 state sweep for Republicans here won't happen either.
braves121 Posted July 2 Posted July 2 1 hour ago, Offthemat said: Dean Phillips didn’t get much traction. The dimocrats will do well to beat RFK. Mainly bc he pushed out robo calls with an ai Biden voice telling people they didn’t need to vote lmao
Offthemat Posted July 2 Posted July 2 1 hour ago, Danny Deck said: Things look bad for the Democrats, but the implied 50 state sweep for Republicans here won't happen either. Probably not more than 48.
mspart Posted July 2 Posted July 2 I'm guessing Hawaii will go D, and even though WA is kind of sort of trending in a conservative direction a little, I think they will vote D as well as OR and CA. So maybe 46. mspart
Offthemat Posted July 2 Posted July 2 33 minutes ago, mspart said: I'm guessing Hawaii will go D, and even though WA is kind of sort of trending in a conservative direction a little, I think they will vote D as well as OR and CA. So maybe 46. mspart The vote by mail states will always be sketchy. 2
Threadkilla Posted July 2 Posted July 2 3 hours ago, Offthemat said: If Biden drops out now, Kamel Hairs gets the $100 million in campaign funds. And if they picked up anyone else that money would have to be returned to donors.
red viking Posted July 3 Posted July 3 I don't see how any objective person can say that the left is more "radicalized" than the right when we've absolutely 100% gone off the deep end to the right in this country. The rich are getting richer than ever, marginal tax rates keep going down, the top 1% actually pay a lower tax rate than the middle class, the poor keep getting poorer , our military budget keeps getting more and more bloated and environmental regulations keep getting strangled in the name of bigger corporate profits.
Hammerlock3 Posted July 3 Author Posted July 3 1 hour ago, red viking said: I don't see how any objective person can say that the left is more "radicalized" than the right when we've absolutely 100% gone off the deep end to the right in this country. The rich are getting richer than ever, marginal tax rates keep going down, the top 1% actually pay a lower tax rate than the middle class, the poor keep getting poorer , our military budget keeps getting more and more bloated and environmental regulations keep getting strangled in the name of bigger corporate profits. this is where the conversation stops cause i think pretty much everything you said is false or predicated on economic ignorance. 2 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
Scouts Honor Posted July 3 Posted July 3 2 hours ago, red viking said: I don't see how any objective person can say that the left is more "radicalized" than the right when we've absolutely 100% gone off the deep end to the right in this country. The rich are getting richer than ever, marginal tax rates keep going down, the top 1% actually pay a lower tax rate than the middle class, the poor keep getting poorer , our military budget keeps getting more and more bloated and environmental regulations keep getting strangled in the name of bigger corporate profits. off the deep end to the right..lol lets see, men in womens restrooms. yeah thats the right DEI everywhere... yeah thats the right Coke in the white house... hmmm 'pride' nude parades every other day...definitely the right california in disarray... b/c of the right jews being attacked regularly.. yeah.. thats the right christian bakers who are being harrassed by crazies... yep, thats the right the world in chaos.. yep, GOP's fault 1 1
mspart Posted July 3 Posted July 3 29 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said: off the deep end to the right..lol lets see, men in womens restrooms. yeah thats the right DEI everywhere... yeah thats the right Coke in the white house... hmmm 'pride' nude parades every other day...definitely the right california in disarray... b/c of the right jews being attacked regularly.. yeah.. thats the right christian bakers who are being harrassed by crazies... yep, thats the right the world in chaos.. yep, GOP's fault Adding to that: Border control is non existent with millions coming in illegally - Yep, that's the right Drug overdose deaths has skyrocketed - Yep that's the right Protests that turn violent - yep that's the right Protests that turn violent and nobody is arrested and jailed - Yep that's the right. Country wide protests for Hamas - yep, that's the right Forgiving student loans without legislation to do so - yep that's the right mspart 2
braves121 Posted July 3 Posted July 3 (edited) 16 minutes ago, mspart said: Adding to that: Border control is non existent with millions coming in illegally - Yep, that's the right Drug overdose deaths has skyrocketed - Yep that's the right Protests that turn violent - yep that's the right Protests that turn violent and nobody is arrested and jailed - Yep that's the right. Country wide protests for Hamas - yep, that's the right Forgiving student loans without legislation to do so - yep that's the right mspart Drug overdose: the left pushes for narcan to be available and for mental health services which could really lull back on OD deaths but the right oppose those Protests: many people were arrested in 2020 and some were even illegally arrested causing lots of cities to pay out settlements and college protestors were arrested what are you talking about lmao forgiving student loans: you full well know that these acts didn’t need congressional approval, they have made their way through plenty of courts and most of the debt wiped out is by pslf which was already in place but wasn’t being administered correctly Edited July 3 by braves121
braves121 Posted July 3 Posted July 3 (edited) The right: requiring the ten commandants to be be posted in the class room and to teach from the Bible which is unconstitutional Edited July 3 by braves121
Scouts Honor Posted July 3 Posted July 3 35 minutes ago, braves121 said: 23 minutes ago, braves121 said: The right: requiring the ten commandants to be be posted in the class room and to teach from the Bible which is unconstitutional Edited 26 minutes this is something i agree with but keeping people from praying on their own... no.
ionel Posted July 3 Posted July 3 1 hour ago, braves121 said: The right: requiring the ten commandants to be be posted in the class room and to teach from the Bible which is unconstitutional Please provide the reference or we will presume you are just lying. .
braves121 Posted July 3 Posted July 3 6 minutes ago, ionel said: Please provide the reference or we will presume you are just lying. https://apnews.com/article/louisiana-ten-commandments-displayed-classrooms-571a2447906f7bbd5a166d53db005a62 https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/27/us/oklahoma-public-schools-bible.html very easy to verify
ionel Posted July 3 Posted July 3 12 minutes ago, braves121 said: https://apnews.com/article/louisiana-ten-commandments-displayed-classrooms-571a2447906f7bbd5a166d53db005a62 https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/27/us/oklahoma-public-schools-bible.html very easy to verify That isn't "the right" its just a few misguided politicians in Louisiana. Most don't agree with this although there may be value in teaching the history of law but that doesn't mean you have to require displaying all laws in public schools, we've got books and libraries for that. Conclusion: your post is mostly fib. .
PortaJohn Posted July 3 Posted July 3 I enjoy messing around with the electoral map. Based on polling seems like AZ and GA are trending strongly back towards Trump. NV looks to go RED for the first time since '04. The election comes down to three states; PA, MI, & Wisconsin. Check it out and have some fun fellas... https://www.270towin.com/ I Don't Agree With What I Posted
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