Way too early Hodge rankings

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

* This ranking assumes the wrestlers win out, in typical fashion

** With Yianni already taking a L he is out of the rankings

 

1. Spencer Lee - With Yianni losing, the Hodge is Spencer's to lose.  He could wrestle the minimum regular season matches, skip Big 10s, and will still win NCAAs easily.  4x NCAA champ = auto-Hodge

2. RBY - this is a tough one since Starrocci and Brooks can also become 3x national champs this year, but I think if RBY beats Fix for a 3rd time in the finals he wins it.

3. Brooks - I think the margin between RBY, Brooks and Starroci is slim but I see Brooks winning in a more dominant fashion.

4. Starroci - I think he can become a 3x NCAA champ.  Lewis can still knock him off though.

5. O'Toole - can become a 2x NCAA champ, will probably score a ton of bonus this season.

6. Schultz - a snoozefest but should easily repeat as NCAA champ this year

[Wrestej]

Did I go into a coma and miss some years?  When did Schults win a ncaa title?

[MPhillips]

2 minutes ago, Wrestej said:

Did I go into a coma and miss some years?

The coma isn't yours...

[nhs67]

49 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

*

Pay your debts.

[Wrestej]

3 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Pay your debts.

The way you keep posting this to Cinnabon makes me remember a movie from my teenage years.  A newspaper boy follows a guy all throughout the movie wanting his two dollars.

[nhs67]

36 minutes ago, Wrestej said:

The way you keep posting this to Cinnabon makes me remember a movie from my teenage years.  A newspaper boy follows a guy all throughout the movie wanting his two dollars.

If he paid his debts (plural) I wouldn't be required to remind him to pay hist debts.

Add in that his debts aren't to individuals, but groups and I might let it geaux.

[MPhillips]

3 hours ago, Wrestej said:

The way you keep posting this to Cinnabon makes me remember a movie from my teenage years.  A newspaper boy follows a guy all throughout the movie wanting his two dollars.

Said guy owed. If you owe. You need to pay. Simple premise.

[mspart]

3 hours ago, nhs67 said:

If he paid his debts (plural) I wouldn't be required to remind him to pay hist debts.

Add in that his debts aren't to individuals, but groups and I might let it geaux.

I see what yeaux did there.

mspart

[BAC]

4 hours ago, Wrestej said:

The way you keep posting this to Cinnabon makes me remember a movie from my teenage years.  A newspaper boy follows a guy all throughout the movie wanting his two dollars.

 

[BAC]

5 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

* This ranking assumes the wrestlers win out, in typical fashion

** With Yianni already taking a L he is out of the rankings

 

1. Spencer Lee - With Yianni losing, the Hodge is Spencer's to lose.  He could wrestle the minimum regular season matches, skip Big 10s, and will still win NCAAs easily.  4x NCAA champ = auto-Hodge

2. RBY - this is a tough one since Starrocci and Brooks can also become 3x national champs this year, but I think if RBY beats Fix for a 3rd time in the finals he wins it.

3. Brooks - I think the margin between RBY, Brooks and Starroci is slim but I see Brooks winning in a more dominant fashion.

4. Starroci - I think he can become a 3x NCAA champ.  Lewis can still knock him off though.

5. O'Toole - can become a 2x NCAA champ, will probably score a ton of bonus this season.

6. Schultz - a snoozefest but should easily repeat as NCAA champ this year

Didn't Metcalf get unceremoniously spladled and pinned, and still won the Hodge?

If Lee and Yianni win NCAAs they're co-Hodges.

[Mr. PeanutButter]

I would be elated if Spencer Lee were to win the Hodge but it wouldn't sit well with me if he did so while wrestling less than 10 matches.

The Hodge is supposed to be a seasonal award. I know that's not how the committee will vote, but I sure wish they would abide by the criteria, or change it officially 

[headshuck]

If Gable comes back he may be a 3-time Hodger.

[ionel]

41 minutes ago, headshuck said:

If Gable comes back he may be a 3-time Hodger.

Won't that be difficult given he only has 1.5? 

[1032004]

15 hours ago, BAC said:

Didn't Metcalf get unceremoniously spladled and pinned, and still won the Hodge?

If Lee and Yianni win NCAAs they're co-Hodges.

Yianni isn’t going to win it with a loss

[Crablegs]

21 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

* This ranking assumes the wrestlers win out, in typical fashion

** With Yianni already taking a L he is out of the rankings

 

1. Spencer Lee - With Yianni losing, the Hodge is Spencer's to lose.  He could wrestle the minimum regular season matches, skip Big 10s, and will still win NCAAs easily.  4x NCAA champ = auto-Hodge

2. RBY - this is a tough one since Starrocci and Brooks can also become 3x national champs this year, but I think if RBY beats Fix for a 3rd time in the finals he wins it.

3. Brooks - I think the margin between RBY, Brooks and Starroci is slim but I see Brooks winning in a more dominant fashion.

4. Starroci - I think he can become a 3x NCAA champ.  Lewis can still knock him off though.

5. O'Toole - can become a 2x NCAA champ, will probably score a ton of bonus this season.

6. Schultz - a snoozefest but should easily repeat as NCAA champ this year

Carr and O’Toole will likely match up 2 times before NCAAs.  I think if any of the 65s can run the table they’ll be in the mix for Hodge as all 3 will be 2x champs.  If O’Toole is able to beat Carr multiple times and then win NCAAs with Carr and Griffith, I’m giving it to him. He will have a lot of pins and a very strong schedule. 
 

 

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

5 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Yianni isn’t going to win it with a loss

Yianni could win it with a loss if there are no other big name undefeateds. I think Spencer Lee who is undefeated with at least 10 matches wins it easily.

4x NCAA is worth like 90% of winning the Hodge.

[1032004]

34 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Yianni could win it with a loss if there are no other big name undefeateds. I think Spencer Lee who is undefeated with at least 10 matches wins it easily.

4x NCAA is worth like 90% of winning the Hodge.

I’d think all of the following would be “big names” that would have to lose for Yianni to win

Lee (or wrestle less than like 10 matches)

RBY or Fix

O’Toole or Carr

Starocci

Brooks

 

Don’t see that happening

 

 

Edited November 24, 2022 by 1032004

[Le duke]

I’d think all of the following would be “big names” that would have to lose for Yianni to win
Lee (or wrestle less than like 10 matches)
RBY or Fix
O’Toole or Carr
Starocci
Brooks
 
Don’t see that happening
 
 

O’Toole is going to have so many tough matches this year. Carr 2x (at least), plus potentially a very tough QF, semi and final. If he runs that gauntlet, he deserves to win it.

I think anyone with a loss should be out, automatically.


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[Wrestej]

16 minutes ago, Le duke said:

O’Toole is going to have so many tough matches this year. Carr 2x (at least), plus potentially a very tough QF, semi and final. If he runs that gauntlet, he deserves to win it.

I think anyone with a loss should be out, automatically.


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O’Toole will not lose this year and quite possibly not another college match, barring injury.  This kid is special.  I’ve watched him wrestle a lot and he is always in control.  He went through a gauntlet last years Championships with a broke ankle.  Nobody is going to stop him and to be honest I don’t even think it is close.  If he put his mind to it I think he could bonus everyone this year including Carr.  O’Toole will go down as an all timer.  I think the only thing that keeps him from going up to 174 and taking on Starocci is staying in closer range to 74kg for Olympic weight.

[Le duke]

O’Toole will not lose this year and quite possibly not another college match, barring injury.  This kid is special.  I’ve watched him wrestle a lot and he is always in control.  He went through a gauntlet last years Championships with a broke ankle.  Nobody is going to stop him and to be honest I don’t even think it is close.  If he put his mind to it I think he could bonus everyone this year including Carr.  O’Toole will go down as an all timer.  I think the only thing that keeps him from going up to 174 and taking on Starocci is staying in closer range to 74kg for Olympic weight.

If he goes up, he doesn’t make the final.


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[BaldAt23]

2 hours ago, Wrestej said:

O’Toole will not lose this year and quite possibly not another college match, barring injury.  This kid is special.  I’ve watched him wrestle a lot and he is always in control.  He went through a gauntlet last years Championships with a broke ankle.  Nobody is going to stop him and to be honest I don’t even think it is close.  If he put his mind to it I think he could bonus everyone this year including Carr.  O’Toole will go down as an all timer.  I think the only thing that keeps him from going up to 174 and taking on Starocci is staying in closer range to 74kg for Olympic weight.

Lol come on bro, what a bad take 

[Wrestej]

Just my opinion.  We will see how the year goes.  

[1032004]

46 minutes ago, BaldAt23 said:

Lol come on bro, what a bad take 

Bonusing Carr may be a slight exaggeration but I don’t think it’s that bad of a take.  He was 25-0 with a ton of bonus as essentially a redshirt freshman.  

Would be cool to see him bump up to take on Starocci in a year or two (assuming Starocci doesn’t bump to 184 after Brooks graduates).

 

[Wrestej]

I think he majors Carr.  Lots of people probably don’t realize just how good this kid is.  He shut it down in the all star match.  He doesn’t stop just keeps going keeps scoring.   Special 

Edited November 24, 2022 by Wrestej

[Gibby Haynes]

O'toole may have to beat carr 4 times this year. Scuffle,isu dual,big 12s and nationals. That's more than carr has lost his entire career.