Olympic Weight - Tweeners/Who goes where?

[nhs67]

Greetings All,

Spey, while he didn't have the testicular fortitude to make his own 'predictions' on where out non-Oly gents will go, he did do a write up of it and it will apply to this thread...

https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/11280817-up-or-down-to-which-olympic-weight-goes-the-tweeners

Below is a list of gents that I imagine will try to make a go at qualifying for OTT, in some way shape or form either via qualification tournaments leading up or being contenders at their NCAA weight class.  I know I missed some, just don't know who... and I am all ears when hearing what folks think of each

OLYMPIC WEIGHTS

57 KG:
- Zane Richards
- Thomas Gilman
- Nick Suriano
- Spencer Lee
- Jakob Camacho
- Cooper Flynn
- Patrick Glory
- Caleb Smith
- Austin Assad
- Stevo Poulin
- Matt Ramos
- Richie Figueroa
- Drake Ayala
- Michael DeAugustino
- Patrick McKee
- Jore Volk
- Troy Spratley
- Jax Forrest
- Luke Lilledal
- Anthony Knox
- Marcuz Blaze

65 KG:
- Nick Lee
- Yianni Diakomihalis
- Joey McKenna
- Matthew Kolodzkik
- Beau Bartlett
- Anthony Ashnault
- Evan Henderson
- Luke Pletcher
- Ian Parker
- Pat Lugo
- Josh Saunders
- Cole Matthews
- Brandon Wright
- Andrew Alirez
- Real Woods
- Brock Hardy
- Jesse Mendez
- Vince Cornella
- Dylan Ragusin
- Ridge Lovett
- Casey Swiderski
- Dylan D'Emilio
- Daniel Zepeda
- Dylan Gilcher
- Pierson Manville

74 KG:
- Kyle Dake
- Jason Nolf
- Vincenzo Joseph
- Kegan O-Toole
- Josh Shields
- Derek Gilcher
- Tommy Gantt
- Julian Ramirez
- Joe Lavallee
- David Carr
- Cam Amine
- Jacori Teemer
- Dean Hamiti
- Mike Caliendo
- Peyton Hall- Matthew Olguin
- Caleb Fish
- Bubba Wilson
- Alex Facundo
- Shane Griffith
- Luka Wick
- Joe Sealey
- Mitch Messenbrink
- Joe Lee
- Matt Lee
- Patrick Kennedy
- Logan Massa

86 KG:
- David Taylor
- Aaron Brooks
- Mark Hall
- Trent Hidlay
- Gabe Dean
- Max Dean
- Drew Foster
- Myles Martin
- Parker Keckeisen
- Bernie Truax
- Trey Munoz
- Dustin Plott
- Abe Assad
- Patrick Downey

97 KG:
- Kyle Snyder
- J’den Cox
- Silas Allred
- Isaac Trumble
- Ben Kueter
- TJ Dudley

125 KG:
- Mason Parris
- Gable Steveson
- Hayden Zillmer
- Nick Gwiazdowski
- Dom Bradley
- Greg Kerkvliet
- Wyatt Hendrickson
- Lucas Davison
- Tony Cassioppi
- Cohlton Schultz
- Demertius Thomas
- Ty Walz
- Christian Lance
- Zach Elam
- Luke Luffman
- Josh Wood
- Owen Trephan
- Josh Heindselman
- Grady Griess
- Nick Feldman
- Christian Carroll
- Dayton Pitzer
- Hunter Catka
- Koy Hopke
- Aden Attao

NON-OLYMPIC WEIGHTS

61 KG:
- Vito Arujau
- Nahshon Garrett
- Daton Fix
- Austin DeSanto
- Seth Gross
- Nathan Tomasello
- Joe Colon
- Dan DeShazer
- Shelton Mack
- Josh Rodriguez
- Cody Brewer
- Nico Megaludis
- Aden Valencia
- Aaron Nagao
- Sam Latona
- Chris Cannon
- Nic Bouzakis
- Lucas Byrd
- Benjamin Davino

70 Kilograms
- Zain Retherford
- James Green
- Ryan Deakin
- Tyler Berger
- Sammy Sasso
- Alec Pantaleo
- Jarrett Jacques
- Hayden Hidlay
- Jaydin Eierman
- Jared Verkleeren
- Ed Scott
- Shayne Van Ness
- Kyle Parco
- Caleb Henson
- Brock Mauller
- Jackson Arrington
- Chance Lamer
- Levi Haines
- Jared Franek
- Peyton Robb
- Bryce Andonian
- Will Lewan
- Dan Cardenas
- Chase Saldate
- Paddy Gallagher
- Cody Chittum
- Meyer Shapiro
- LaDarion Locket
- PJ Duke

79 KG:
- Chance Marsteller
- Jordan Burroughs
- Alex Dieringer
- David McFadden
- Carter Starocci
- Chris Foca
- Mekhi Lewis
- Alex Marinelli
- Michael Kemerer
- Taylor Lujan
- Devin Skatzka
- Isaiah White
- Mike Labriola
- Nelson Brands
- Carson Kharchla
- Donnell Washington
- Edmond Ruth
- Peyton Mocco
- Michael O'Malley
- Cael Valencia
- Angelo Ferrari
- Josh Barr
- Rocco Welsh
- Gabe Arnold

92 Kilograms
- Zahid Valencia
- Mike Macchiavello
- Kollin Moore
- Nate Jackson
- Eric Schultz
- Jay Aiello
- Morgan McIntosh
- Tanner Sloan
- Jacob Cardenas
- Stephen Buchanan
- Rocky Elam
- Jaxon Smith
- Michael Beard
- Gavin Hoffman
- Jacob Warner
- AJ Ferrari

[nhs67]

Here are some notes for the gents already at the Olympics weights...

Circuit Veteran just means he has been pretty active the last year or so...

57 KG:
- Zane Richards - World Teamer
- Thomas Gilman - World Teamer
- Nick Suriano - Past NCAA Champ
- Spencer Lee - Past NCAA Champ
- Jakob Camacho - NCAA Contender
- Cooper Flynn - On Oly-shirt
- Patrick Glory - Past NCAA Champ
- Caleb Smith - US Open Placer
- Austin Assad - US Open Placer
- Stevo Poulin - US Open Placer
- Matt Ramos - NCAA Contender
- Richie Figueroa - NCAA Contender
- Drake Ayala - NCAA Contender
- Michael DeAugustino - NCAA Contender (Michigan)
- Patrick McKee - NCAA Contender
- Jore Volk - NCAA Contender
- Troy Spratley - NCAA Contender
- Gregor Diakomihalis - Cornell, also a Diak
- Brett Ungar - Cornell
- Jax Forrest - Too young?
- Luke Lilledal - Too young?
- Anthony Knox - Too young?
- Marcuz Blaze - Too young?

65 KG:
- Nick Lee - World Teamer
- Yianni Diakomihalis - World Teamer
- Joey McKenna - Perennial Contender
- Matthew Kolodzkik - US Open Placer
- Beau Bartlett - US Open Placer
- Anthony Ashnault - US Open Placer
- Evan Henderson - US Open Placer
- Luke Pletcher - Circuit Veteran
- Ian Parker - Circuit Veteran
- Pat Lugo - Circuit Veteran
- Josh Saunders - Circuit Veteran
- Cole Matthews - NCAA Contender
- Brandon Wright - Circuit Veteran
- Andrew Alirez - On Oly-shirt
- Real Woods - I am pretty stoked to see him give it a go on the Senior level.
- Brock Hardy - A very strong top game in Folkstyle... does it translate well into Freestyle?
- Jesse Mendez - You know he is going to try to throw his hat in the ring... do we see him contending straight away?
- Vince Cornella - A horse, but not sure what to expect on the Freestyle scene
- Dylan Ragusin - Too small?  Not sure what we will get from him this year if up at 141.
- Ridge Lovett - Will probably be right in the thick of it...
- Casey Swiderski - Too big?  He can handle the horse at 74 KG, but I think he is a bit too small for it at this point
- Dylan D'Emilio - Circuit Veteran
- Daniel Zepeda - Too young?
- Dylan Gilcher - Michigan
- Pierson Manville - Too young?

74 KG:
- Kyle Dake - World Medalist, Sitting out to Day 2 Best of Three
- Jason Nolf - Final X Runner-UP
- Vincenzo Joseph - US Open Placer
- Kegan O-Toole - NCAA Contender, Age group medalist
- Josh Shields - Circuit Veteran
- Derek Gilcher - US Open Placer
- Tommy Gantt - Circuit Veteran
- Julian Ramirez - Circuit Veteran
- Joe Lavallee - Circuit Veteran
- David Carr - NCAA Contender, Age group medalist
- Cam Amine - NCAA Contender, Michigan, Is an Amine
- Jacori Teemer - NCAA Contender
- Dean Hamiti - NCAA Contender
- Mike Caliendo - NCAA Contender
- Peyton Hall - Circuit Veteran
- Caleb Fish - Circuit Veteran
- Bubba Wilson - Circuit Veteran
- Alex Facundo- Age group medalist
- Shane Griffith - NCAA Contender
- Luka Wick - A Wick?
- Joe Sealey - Penn State
- Mitch Messenbrink - Penn State
- Joe Lee - Penn State
- Matt Lee - Penn State
- Patrick Kennedy - NCAA Contender
- Logan Massa - ThugMassa G

86 KG:
- David Taylor - World Medalist, Sitting out to Day 2 Best of Three
- Aaron Brooks - Final X Runner-UP
- Mark Hall - Perennial Contender
- Trent Hidlay - US Open Placer, Perennial Contender, Circuit Veteran
- Gabe Dean - Perennial Contender
- Max Dean - Circuit Veteran
- Drew Foster - Circuit Veteran
- Myles Martin - Circuit Veteran
- Parker Keckeisen - NCAA Contender
- Bernie Truax - NCAA Contender
- Trey Munoz - NCAA Contender
- Dustin Plott - NCAA Contender, Circuit Veteran
- Abe Assad - Iowa
- Patrick Downey - Past World Teamer

97 KG:
- Kyle Snyder - World Medalist, Sitting out to Day 2 Best of Three
- J’den Cox - World Teamer
- Silas Allred - NCAA Contender, Circuit Veteran
- Isaac Trumble - Circuit Veteran
- Ben Kueter - Future?
- TJ Dudley - Perennial Contender, Circuit Veteran

125 KG:
- Mason Parris - World Medalist, Sitting out to Day 2 Best of Three
- Gable Steveson - Instant Favorite if competing
- Hayden Zillmer - World Teamer
- Nick Gwiazdowski - World Teamer
- Dom Bradley - Circuit Veteran
- Greg Kerkvliet - NCAA Contender
- Wyatt Hendrickson - NCAA Contender
- Lucas Davison - NCAA Contender
- Tony Cassioppi - NCAA Contender
- Cohlton Schultz - NCAA Contender
- Demertius Thomas - Circuit Veteran
- Ty Walz - Circuit Veteran, Retired?
- Christian Lance - Circuit Veteran
- Zach Elam - Circuit Veteran
- Luke Luffman - Circuit Veteran
- Josh Wood - Circuit Veteran
- Owen Trephan - Circuit Veteran
- Josh Heindselman - Circuit Veteran
- Grady Griess - Circuit Veteran
- Nick Feldman - Future?
- Christian Carroll - Future?
- Dayton Pitzer - Future?
- Hunter Catka - Future?
- Koy Hopke- Too Young?
- Aden Attao - Circuit Veteran, Future?

[nhs67]

Here are some notes for the 'Tweener' Weights...

Again, feel free to add, gents.

61 KG:
- Vito Arujau - 57 KG - World Medalist, sitting out to the Semi-Finals and I think it will be at 57 KG (despite me wanting him to go up)
- Nahshon Garrett - 65 KG - He just couldn't make it to 57 KG last time... I think he focuses on 65 KG and moves forward
- Daton Fix - 57 KG - Writing is on the wall for him to drop
- Austin DeSanto - 65 KG - I think if he drops we see a rate reductiong from him... needs to go up
- Seth Gross - 57 KG - His last go?  We have seen him up at 65 KG recently too, but last Oly he went 57 KG
- Nathan Tomasello - 57 KG - I can't imagine him at 65 KG.
- Joe Colon - 57 KG - Writing is on the wall... he is done after this one and his best shot is 57 KG
- Dan DeShazer - 57 KG - I think we see him make an attempt to drop
- Tyler Graff - 65 KG - He couldn't go down before when he was younger and opted for MGR... if we see him in MFS it will be at 65 KG
- Shelton Mack - 57 KG - Another guy who just wouldn't sniff a match at 65 KG
- Josh Rodriguez - 57 KG - Seems to have grown out of 57 KG, but I don't see him being able to run at 65 KG
- Cody Brewer - 65 KG - I don't think we see him, but if we do I imagine it will be up at 65 KG
- Nico Megaludis - 57 KG - I don't know that we see him, either, but if we do it will be down at 57 KG
- Aden Valencia - 65 KG - He is up at 138lbs for this HS season, so I expect him to go up
- Aaron Nagao - 65 KG - I don't think we see him
- Sam Latona - 65 KG - If he happens to win NCAAs, or qualify in some other manner, I expect him to go up.  He is already too big for 133...
- Chris Cannon - 57 KG - Not sure that we see him... or even what weight he goes if we do...
- Nic Bouzakis - 57 KG - He is a Greco guy, so I kind of anticipate him giving 60 KG or 63 KG a go, being as they are closer to his weight than MFS offers
- Lucas Byrd - 65 KG - There was a rumor he would go up to 141lbs this season, so I will bite on that one...
- Benjamin Davino - Too young?

70 Kilograms
- Zain Retherford - 74 KG - World Medalist, sitting out to the Semi-Finals at Weight of Choice... calling 74 KG
- James Green - 65 KG - A lot of folks are saying 65 KG for him, but I haven't seen anything from him.  I think 74 KG is better for him, though.
- Ryan Deakin - 74 KG - If we see him, there isn't a fart's chance in a shit storm we see him below 70 KG.
- Tyler Berger - 74 KG - He is already scheduled to compete at 74 KG.
- Sammy Sasso - 74 KG - I don't think we see him... unfortunately.
- Alec Pantaleo - 65 KG - He has said multiple times that he is a 65 KG guy.  I don't see how he makes it, but I haven't read anything otherwise.
- Jarrett Jacques - 74 KG - Already registered at the BF for 74 KG
- Hayden Hidlay - 74 KG - He has been a 74 KG guy when he wasn't a 70 KG guy.  Not sure we see him, though.  He may be focused on coaching now.
- Jaydin Eierman - 65 KG - If he is healthy, 65 KG is his weight to go.  I would expect him to contend, too.
- Jared Verkleeren - 74 KG - I don't think we see him.  He is too small for 74 KG and too big for 65 KG.
- Ed Scott - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG.
- Shayne Van Ness - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG at this point, right?
- Kyle Parco - 65 KG - I think he could be a factor... he's so fast and slick
- Caleb Henson - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG.
- Brock Mauller - 65 KG - True Tweener here... not sure which way he goes and I don't think he is successful either way, if he does...
- Jackson Arrington - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG.
- Chance Lamer - 65 KG - I think he knows that 74 KG is too big for him.
- Levi Haines - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG.
- Jared Franek - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG.
- Peyton Robb - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG.
- Bryce Andonian - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG.
- Will Lewan - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG.
- Dan Cardenas - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG.
- Chase Saldate - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG.
- Paddy Gallagher - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG.
- Cody Chittum - 74 KG - Too big for 65 KG.
- Meyer Shapiro - 74 KG - On the fence here.
- LaDarion Locket - Too young?
- PJ Duke - Too young?

79 KG:
- Chance Marsteller - 86 KG - I may have it backwards, but I am pretty sure he said he was going up in one of his World Team Camp interviews
- Jordan Burroughs - 74 KG - Already scheduled to compete at 74 KG... I think it's to see how he feels after the cut.  We may see a change?
- Alex Dieringer - 86 KG - Guy is swole AF.  No way he makes 74 KG.
- David McFadden - 86 KG- Guy is made for 79 KG.  I don't see him dropping.
- Carter Starocci - 74 KG - He said himself he is dropping.
- Chris Foca - 86 KG - We have seen him at 86 KG in the past (10-0 over Max Dean)
- Mekhi Lewis - 86 KG - I don't know if we see him.  If he goes 184 I think the liklihood of him going Freestyle are better.
- Alex Marinelli - 74 KG - He has been competing at 79 KG so he didn't have to cut, methinks.
- Michael Kemerer - 74 KG - He isn't big or strong enough for 86 KG.  I am happy to be wrong, though.
- Taylor Lujan - 86 KG - See McFadden.  He was made for 79 KG and I don't see him dropping.
- Devin Skatzka - 86 KG - Seems already written in stone
- Isaiah White - 74 KG - Not sure we see him, but if we do it should be down
- Mike Labriola - 86 KG - Unless he has already begun his decent, he isn't making 74 KG.  Too big.
- Nelson Brands - 86 KG - Not sure we see him, but if we do I think he goes up.  He has outgrown 74 KG.
- Carson Kharchla - 74 KG - He is a 74 KG guy for freestyle, if we see him.
- Donnell Washington - 86 KG - Too big for 74 KG.
- Edmond Ruth - 86 KG - Too big for 74 KG.
- Peyton Mocco - 74 KG - I don't see him going up, if he goes.
- Michael O'Malley - 86 KG - Not sure I see a drop at this point in his career.
- Cael Valencia - 86 KG - I think he is already going up.
- Angelo Ferrari - Too young?
- Josh Barr - 86 KG - Penn State guy... lot of age level competition
- Rocco Welsh - 86 KG - A gamer... lot of age level competition
- Gabe Arnold - 86 KG - Iowa guy... lot of age level competition

92 Kilograms
- Zahid Valencia - 86 KG - Sitting out until the semi-finals already
- Mike Macchiavello - 97 KG - Too big for 86 KG
- Kollin Moore - 97 KG - Too big for 86 KG
- Nate Jackson - 97 KG - Too big for 86 KG
- Eric Schultz - 86 KG - This is a stretch for me.  I wouldn't be surprised to see him go up.
- Jay Aiello - 97 KG - Too big for 86 KG
- Morgan McIntosh - 86 KG - We expected him at 86 KG for the Open (he was entered there)
- Tanner Sloan - 97 KG - He has been a staple on the age-level at 97 KG for a while now
- Jacob Cardenas - 97 KG - He could be a sleeper... has a lot of Freestyle success and isn't afraid of anybody
- Stephen Buchanan - 86 KG - Not sure what to expect here... just don't think he is that big.
- Rocky Elam - 97 KG - I don't know if he can make 86 KG anymore, but he would be a Darkhorse there...
- Jaxon Smith - 97 KG - I think he is too big for 86 KG
- Michael Beard - 97 KG - Large frame points towards him going up... would not be surprised to see him go down, though
- Gavin Hoffman - 86 KG - His frame points towards 86 KG for me, but I would not be surprised to see him go up.
- Jacob Warner - 97 KG - Not sure how he made 197lbs...
- AJ Ferrari - 97 KG - Was 97 KG the last time out...

[Wrestleknownothing]

Man that is a shit-ton of work. Nice job.

[nhs67]

26 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Man that is a shit-ton of work. Nice job.

I am secretly hoping that ThugMassa G shows up as ThicccMassa and wrecks some fools.

He was an Elementary PE teacher for a few months the last time he came back, though.  So I'm not sure his training situation.

[BigRedFan]

Hard to imagine Meyer Shapiro wrestling 157 in March and 163 (74kg) in April.

[nhs67]

Just now, BigRedFan said:

Hard to imagine Meyer Shapiro wrestling 157 in March and 163 (74kg) in April.

Do you think he heads down?  I assumed he would look to fill out 157 and then go up.

[BigRedFan]

Just now, nhs67 said:

Do you think he heads down?  I assumed he would look to fill out 157 and then go up.

We should get info on November 12 (Journeyman).

[Wrestleknownothing]

1 hour ago, nhs67 said:

Greetings All,

Spey, while he didn't have the testicular fortitude to make his own 'predictions' on where out non-Oly gents will go, he did do a write up of it and it will apply to this thread...

https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/11280817-up-or-down-to-which-olympic-weight-goes-the-tweeners

Below is a list of gents that I imagine will try to make a go at qualifying for OTT, in some way shape or form either via qualification tournaments leading up or being contenders at their NCAA weight class.  I know I missed some, just don't know who... and I am all ears when hearing what folks think of each

OLYMPIC WEIGHTS

57 KG:
- Zane Richards
- Thomas Gilman
- Nick Suriano
- Spencer Lee
- Jakob Camacho
- Cooper Flynn
- Patrick Glory
- Caleb Smith
- Austin Assad
- Stevo Poulin
- Matt Ramos
- Richie Figueroa
- Drake Ayala
- Michael DeAugustino
- Patrick McKee
- Jore Volk
- Troy Spratley
- Jax Forrest
- Luke Lilledal
- Anthony Knox
- Marcuz Blaze

65 KG:
- Nick Lee
- Yianni Diakomihalis
- Joey McKenna
- Matthew Kolodzkik
- Beau Bartlett
- Anthony Ashnault
- Evan Henderson
- Luke Pletcher
- Ian Parker
- Pat Lugo
- Josh Saunders
- Cole Matthews
- Brandon Wright
- Andrew Alirez
- Real Woods
- Brock Hardy
- Jesse Mendez
- Vince Cornella
- Dylan Ragusin
- Ridge Lovett
- Casey Swiderski
- Dylan D'Emilio
- Daniel Zepeda
- Dylan Gilcher
- Pierson Manville

74 KG:
- Kyle Dake
- Jason Nolf
- Vincenzo Joseph
- Kegan O-Toole
- Josh Shields
- Derek Gilcher
- Tommy Gantt
- Julian Ramirez
- Joe Lavallee
- David Carr
- Cam Amine
- Jacori Teemer
- Dean Hamiti
- Mike Caliendo
- Peyton Hall- Matthew Olguin
- Caleb Fish
- Bubba Wilson
- Alex Facundo
- Shane Griffith
- Luka Wick
- Joe Sealey
- Mitch Messenbrink
- Joe Lee
- Matt Lee
- Patrick Kennedy
- Logan Massa

86 KG:
- David Taylor
- Aaron Brooks
- Mark Hall
- Trent Hidlay
- Gabe Dean
- Max Dean
- Drew Foster
- Myles Martin
- Parker Keckeisen
- Bernie Truax
- Trey Munoz
- Dustin Plott
- Abe Assad
- Patrick Downey

97 KG:
- Kyle Snyder
- J’den Cox
- Silas Allred
- Isaac Trumble
- Ben Kueter
- TJ Dudley

125 KG:
- Mason Parris
- Gable Steveson
- Hayden Zillmer
- Nick Gwiazdowski
- Dom Bradley
- Greg Kerkvliet
- Wyatt Hendrickson
- Lucas Davison
- Tony Cassioppi
- Cohlton Schultz
- Demertius Thomas
- Ty Walz
- Christian Lance
- Zach Elam
- Luke Luffman
- Josh Wood
- Owen Trephan
- Josh Heindselman
- Grady Griess
- Nick Feldman
- Christian Carroll
- Dayton Pitzer
- Hunter Catka
- Koy Hopke
- Aden Attao

NON-OLYMPIC WEIGHTS

61 KG:
- Vito Arujau
- Nahshon Garrett
- Daton Fix
- Austin DeSanto
- Seth Gross
- Nathan Tomasello
- Joe Colon
- Dan DeShazer
- Shelton Mack
- Josh Rodriguez
- Cody Brewer
- Nico Megaludis
- Aden Valencia
- Aaron Nagao
- Sam Latona
- Chris Cannon
- Nic Bouzakis
- Lucas Byrd
- Benjamin Davino

70 Kilograms
- Zain Retherford
- James Green
- Ryan Deakin
- Tyler Berger
- Sammy Sasso
- Alec Pantaleo
- Jarrett Jacques
- Hayden Hidlay
- Jaydin Eierman
- Jared Verkleeren
- Ed Scott
- Shayne Van Ness
- Kyle Parco
- Caleb Henson
- Brock Mauller
- Jackson Arrington
- Chance Lamer
- Levi Haines
- Jared Franek
- Peyton Robb
- Bryce Andonian
- Will Lewan
- Dan Cardenas
- Chase Saldate
- Paddy Gallagher
- Cody Chittum
- Meyer Shapiro
- LaDarion Locket
- PJ Duke

79 KG:
- Chance Marsteller
- Jordan Burroughs
- Alex Dieringer
- David McFadden
- Carter Starocci
- Chris Foca
- Mekhi Lewis
- Alex Marinelli
- Michael Kemerer
- Taylor Lujan
- Devin Skatzka
- Isaiah White
- Mike Labriola
- Nelson Brands
- Carson Kharchla
- Donnell Washington
- Edmond Ruth
- Peyton Mocco
- Michael O'Malley
- Cael Valencia
- Angelo Ferrari
- Josh Barr
- Rocco Welsh
- Gabe Arnold

92 Kilograms
- Zahid Valencia
- Mike Macchiavello
- Kollin Moore
- Nate Jackson
- Eric Schultz
- Jay Aiello
- Morgan McIntosh
- Tanner Sloan
- Jacob Cardenas
- Stephen Buchanan
- Rocky Elam
- Jaxon Smith
- Michael Beard
- Gavin Hoffman
- Jacob Warner
- AJ Ferrari

U23 World Team Members:

• Julian Chlebove at 61kg (missing)
• Doug Zapf at 70kg (missing)
• Dustin Plott at 79kg (you have him listed at 86kg rather than a 79kg tweener)

Win gold and they are in.

[nhs67]

8 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

U23 World Team Members:

• Julian Chlebove at 61kg (missing)
• Doug Zapf at 70kg (missing)
• Dustin Plott at 79kg (you have him listed at 86kg rather than a 79kg tweener)

Win gold and they are in.

Aye, yeah - Plott going 184lbs cements him at 86 KG for me, though.

Zapf and Chlebove.  What weight do you think for them?

[Wrestleknownothing]

8 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Aye, yeah - Plott going 184lbs cements him at 86 KG for me, though.

Zapf and Chlebove.  What weight do you think for them?

I do not know much, if anything, about either of them.

But, given that Chlebove started as a 141 before dropping to 133, I do not see him going 57.

With Zapf having wrestled all 10 weights in college (ok, really just 133, 141, 157, 149, in that order), I see him dropping to 65.

So both 65 for me.

[mspart]

This is a lot of work you have done.  

At 57kg.  I have a question about Zane Richards?   Does anyone see him as the man next year?   Will Gilman have his number?   Is there anyone else that can displace Zane?   I think there will be a change at 57kg.  Zane didn't medal and Gilman did a year earlier so I am thinking that Zane had his chance.   I'm thinking there is extreme hunger and we will have someone new in that spot.   By new I mean not Zane.   He seems especially susceptible. 

At 65kg - There are just too many to choose from that could make a go of it here.  Nick Lee I think can do it, Yianni also.  But then there's Vito, Daton, DeSanto, Zain, and JG.   My guess is it will be between Vito and Yianni in the finals.   If Vito goes 65 of course.

Both of these weights are hugely packed with talent.  

What would the OTT qualification process look like for those no longer in college?  Other than previous Olympian. 

mspart

 

[nhs67]

12 minutes ago, mspart said:

This is a lot of work you have done.  

At 57kg.  I have a question about Zane Richards?   Does anyone see him as the man next year?   Will Gilman have his number?   Is there anyone else that can displace Zane?   I think there will be a change at 57kg.  Zane didn't medal and Gilman did a year earlier so I am thinking that Zane had his chance.   I'm thinking there is extreme hunger and we will have someone new in that spot.   By new I mean not Zane.   He seems especially susceptible. 

At 65kg - There are just too many to choose from that could make a go of it here.  Nick Lee I think can do it, Yianni also.  But then there's Vito, Daton, DeSanto, Zain, and JG.   My guess is it will be between Vito and Yianni in the finals.   If Vito goes 65 of course.

Both of these weights are hugely packed with talent.  

What would the OTT qualification process look like for those no longer in college?  Other than previous Olympian. 

mspart

 

So the Bill Farrell qualifies the highest placing American who hasn't qualified yet.  So in theory, one or none could quailfy.

Senior Naitonals in December qualify the Top 7 and I believe that if you are already qualified you cannot enter?  Not sure there.

After that there is last chance, which is the week between NCAAs and OTT.  Only one goes from there and you have to have not qualified to be able to enter.

[nhs67]

https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/11242319-usa-wrestling-releases-full-2024-olympic-team-qualification-procedures

[Wrestleknownothing]

17 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

So the Bill Farrell qualifies the highest placing American who hasn't qualified yet.  So in theory, one or none could quailfy.

Senior Naitonals in December qualify the Top 7 and I believe that if you are already qualified you cannot enter?  Not sure there.

After that there is last chance, which is the week between NCAAs and OTT.  Only one goes from there and you have to have not qualified to be able to enter.

Senior Nationals is top 5 rather than top 7

Also add U23 gold medalists, Pan Am Games gold medalist (though this is probably moot as I think all reps are already qualified under other categories), Pan An Qualifier top 2 (also moot, I think, for same reason).

Edited October 16, 2023 by Wrestleknownothing

[Wrestleknownothing]

One other thing. While @nhs67's comprehensive lists contain anyone reasonably likely to qualify for the OTT, the actual number of qualifiers is much smaller. For example, in 2021 the brackets were:

57 - 9

65 - 11

74 - 8

86 - 11

97 - 8

125 - 9

[mspart]

Thanks for all the info.   This will certainly be quite a show. 

mspart

[D3 for LU]

nhs67 sez... 

125 KG:
- Mason Parris - World Medalist, Sitting out to Day 2 Best of Three
- Gable Steveson - Instant Favorite if competing
- Hayden Zillmer - World Teamer
- Nick Gwiazdowski - World Teamer
- Dom Bradley - Circuit Veteran
- Greg Kerkvliet - NCAA Contender
- Wyatt Hendrickson - NCAA Contender
- Lucas Davison - NCAA Contender
- Tony Cassioppi - NCAA Contender
- Cohlton Schultz - NCAA Contender
- Demertius Thomas - Circuit Veteran
- Ty Walz - Circuit Veteran, Retired?
- Christian Lance - Circuit Veteran
- Zach Elam - Circuit Veteran
- Luke Luffman - Circuit Veteran
- Josh Wood - Circuit Veteran
- Owen Trephan - Circuit Veteran
- Josh Heindselman - Circuit Veteran
- Grady Griess - Circuit Veteran
- Nick Feldman - Future?
- Christian Carroll - Future?
- Dayton Pitzer - Future?
- Hunter Catka - Future?
- Koy Hopke- Too Young?
- Aden Attao - Circuit Veteran, Future?

 

Josh Wood = Jordan Wood?

(Us LEHIGH folk want to be sure... )

D3

[Caveira]

I read somewhere Jordan Burroughs is going 74 kg

[nhs67]

57 minutes ago, D3 for LU said:

nhs67 sez... 

125 KG:
- Mason Parris - World Medalist, Sitting out to Day 2 Best of Three
- Gable Steveson - Instant Favorite if competing
- Hayden Zillmer - World Teamer
- Nick Gwiazdowski - World Teamer
- Dom Bradley - Circuit Veteran
- Greg Kerkvliet - NCAA Contender
- Wyatt Hendrickson - NCAA Contender
- Lucas Davison - NCAA Contender
- Tony Cassioppi - NCAA Contender
- Cohlton Schultz - NCAA Contender
- Demertius Thomas - Circuit Veteran
- Ty Walz - Circuit Veteran, Retired?
- Christian Lance - Circuit Veteran
- Zach Elam - Circuit Veteran
- Luke Luffman - Circuit Veteran
- Josh Wood - Circuit Veteran
- Owen Trephan - Circuit Veteran
- Josh Heindselman - Circuit Veteran
- Grady Griess - Circuit Veteran
- Nick Feldman - Future?
- Christian Carroll - Future?
- Dayton Pitzer - Future?
- Hunter Catka - Future?
- Koy Hopke- Too Young?
- Aden Attao - Circuit Veteran, Future?

 

Josh Wood = Jordan Wood?

(Us LEHIGH folk want to be sure... )

D3

Sorry... was a lot of copy/paste.  I know it is Jordan.

Feel like a boob now.

[nhs67]

Isaiah White entered the Bill Farrell at 74 KG.

[bnwtwg]

5 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

One other thing. While @nhs67's comprehensive lists contain anyone reasonably likely to qualify for the OTT, the actual number of qualifiers is much smaller. For example, in 2021 the brackets were:

57 - 9

65 - 11

74 - 8

86 - 11

97 - 8

125 - 9

Back when men were men and people actually attended tournaments like Farrell to knock others out and didn’t withdraw if they were sent to the consis.

[Lipdrag]

19 hours ago, nhs67 said:

Feel like a boob now.

No you don't. 

[nhs67]

5 minutes ago, Lipdrag said:

No you don't. 

(I secretively unsecretively wish I did)

[Lipdrag]

On 10/17/2023 at 3:19 PM, nhs67 said:

(I secretively unsecretively wish I did)

Word.