D3 for LU Posted September 21, 2023 Author Posted September 21, 2023 7-3 for Brady Koontz. Time for me to depart for work. Will keep in touch... tootles! D3 1 Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 Kamal Bey on deck at Mat D. He's got the Azerbaijani Suleymanov. Just who I thought he'd see.
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 Disappointment! Kamal Bey goes out very active. Over-extends himself and gets thrown. Now down 6-0 after an additional gut, he again is aggressive and gets taken down. Loses 0-8. Don't know Sulymanov's chances at the finals. He'll have to face the #1 seed. Man, you can lose a dream in an eye blink in Greco. Even with the disappointment, Bey is gracious at the end. I'm still a Bey Believer, and will always be a Bey fan, but not this year (probably).
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 Schultz gets pinned in the first minute. The Lithuanian bear hugged and took him straight to the mat. That was unfortunate.
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) Spencer Woods is out. His AIN opponent Shafarenka just lost. Koontz is up on Mat C in two. He's the last man standing in the championship bracket today for the World Leader in Freedom, the Land of Liberty, the United States of America! Edited September 21, 2023 by ILLINIWrestlingBlog 1
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 Koontz got jobbed pretty hard in a tech fall loss. Romania would've been pinned except they called a mystery leg foul that I couldn't see. Romania frantically points to his leg while laying on his back. Nice ploy! So, instead of a pin for Brady, the Romanian gets another caution point and Brady's put back down. Bey is still in it, as Suleymanov of Azerbaijan wins in the next round. It was only 3-1 and took a lot out of him. His road only gets harder. Fingers crossed for Kamal.
nhs67 Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 Remember when Dabe Gean said he was going to go Greco and there was a lot of hoo-ha about how we would 'finally' get some top tier athletes in to Greco? 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
nhs67 Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 That Lithuanian is built like Adam Coon - just a little smaller, so that is encouraging as a Coon fan and discouraging as a fan of the USofA. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
nhs67 Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 Schultzy didn't even try after he got dropped with that bear hug. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Remember when Dabe Gean said he was going to go Greco and there was a lot of hoo-ha about how we would 'finally' get some top tier athletes in to Greco? Top tier athletes would certainly help! And now there are grumblings that Schultz is very upset about the direction of our Greco program and could switch to freestyle! Not sure how serious this is, but I definitely heard the grumbles! 1
nhs67 Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: Top tier athletes would certainly help! And now there are grumblings that Schultz is very upset about the direction of our Greco program and could switch to freestyle! Not sure how serious this is, but I definitely heard the grumbles! He would insert himself directly in to the conversation as Top Tier on the new age with Parris, Kerkvliet, Hendrickson, Cassioppi, and Davison. I am all for it. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 1 minute ago, nhs67 said: He would insert himself directly in to the conversation as Top Tier on the new age with Parris, Kerkvliet, Hendrickson, Cassioppi, and Davison. I am all for it. Heavyweight in the US is legit. 2
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, nhs67 said: He would insert himself directly in to the conversation as Top Tier on the new age with Parris, Kerkvliet, Hendrickson, Cassioppi, and Davison. I am all for it. I hope he doesn't. He can be big time in Greco.
nhs67 Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 It would suck, yeah... he is clearly our #1 130 KG guy. If he isn't happy, though, then he can do something about that. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
nhs67 Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 Just watched the Bey - Azeri match. Bey had nothing for him either. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 17 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Just watched the Bey - Azeri match. Bey had nothing for him either. Bey was pushing the action, and he overextended. The Azerbaijani made him pay. Then, down big, Kamal got concerned and in a bad position again while pushing the action, and his opponent made him pay again. The number one seed in that bracket just got upset, so we still might could see Kamal in repechage. And I know that #1 seeds in the World Championships haven't meant a lot. I think UWW should study it afterwards. It might be that a neutral AI seeding process is what eventually takes place, although it is good that the current seeds are based on things that are completely objective. I don't know.
MPhillips Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 34 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: And now there are grumblings that Schultz is very upset about the direction of our Greco program Those "grumblings" have included everyone and have been going on for some time... 2 .
nhs67 Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 1 minute ago, ILLINIWrestlingBlog said: Bey was pushing the action, and he overextended. The Azerbaijani made him pay. Then, down big, Kamal got concerned and in a bad position again while pushing the action, and his opponent made him pay again. The number one seed in that bracket just got upset, so we still might could see Kamal in repechage. And I know that #1 seeds in the World Championships haven't meant a lot. I think UWW should study it afterwards. It might be that a neutral AI seeding process is what eventually takes place, although it is good that the current seeds are based on things that are completely objective. I don't know. I think if they guarantee the Top 8 seeds get at least a first round bye, then we might see more take the ranking series seriously. Maybe even factoring in some sort of exchange/picking procedure. You let the Top 8 PICK their seed, or even have their coaches have a proper seed meeting that seeds the Top 8. Could even make it blind. Have the eight coaches seed them 1-8. Tiebreaker is whomever had more seeding points. Keep in mind I mean only the Top 8 highest seeding point earners. Sadulaev, for example, would not have been eligible this year. Another approach that makes it 'fun' and a play off of the above is that you have the eight seeded gents blank. Then you let them choose their spot. For example, Snyder sees that Sadulaev is up top so he chooses the 2 spot, for a chance to meet him in the finals - out of respect. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, ILLINIWrestlingBlog said: Bey was pushing the action, and he overextended. The Azerbaijani made him pay. Then, down big, Kamal got concerned and in a bad position again while pushing the action, and his opponent made him pay again. The number one seed in that bracket just got upset, so we still might could see Kamal in repechage. And I know that #1 seeds in the World Championships haven't meant a lot. I think UWW should study it afterwards. It might be that a neutral AI seeding process is what eventually takes place, although it is good that the current seeds are based on things that are completely objective. I don't know. Want a high seed? Be active. Go to rankings tourneys. It certainly helped guys like Rivera. I know it is sacrilege in some circles to suggest this, but I think Nick Lee may have found some more success with Rivera's draw. Should have hit some tourneys, Rivera did. It was a bit messed up this year, because the Russians who may have wanted to attend Euros, ranking series events, or 2022 Worlds, were barred from doing so. 3
Tripnsweep Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 Lithuania loses 1-1 to Iran. Schultz is out. 1
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said: Lithuania loses 1-1 to Iran. Schultz is out. Bey and Koontz are what's left. Kamal's opponent has a former World Silver from about 5 years ago, then either a World Championship Gold from 2017 or the Gold at 72kg from 2021. Yikes!
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 Anybody know if Max Nowry retired or was injured? I've seen that he is coaching now, but sure do miss him as the most consistent American Greco guy the last few years.
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 And Koontz is out. Romania just got teched. O-Bey Kamalnobi, you're our only hope!
ILLINIWrestlingBlog Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 Bey still in it. The Azeri (himself a World Silver) beat another World medalist. Now the Azerbaijani has to beat a World Gold, who he lost to by one point at the 2022 Euro Championships. This was the Group of Death. Repechage, if Kamal gets in, will be tough. Still have hopes for a Bey Bomb.
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