WrestlingRasta Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Both can be, and are, true. Trump won by what is termed as a landslide through the electoral college. Trump also did not receive the majority of votes from Americans, defeating Harris by 1%. Both picking at straws to hit your respective warm fuzzies, but I’m glad we got the opportunity for that “mental gymnastics” fix.
Bigbrog Posted March 13 Posted March 13 4 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: Both can be, and are, true. Trump won by what is termed as a landslide through the electoral college. Trump also did not receive the majority of votes from Americans, defeating Harris by 1%. Both picking at straws to hit your respective warm fuzzies, but I’m glad we got the opportunity for that “mental gymnastics” fix. What is your definition of majority...if I get more of something compared to someone else dd I not get the majority of it? By the way, I don't have any warm fuzzies about anything in terms of the election...maybe reread what I was commenting on....and I guess we found another saying that you doesn't like...oh no!!!
WrestlingRasta Posted March 13 Posted March 13 54 minutes ago, Bigbrog said: What is your definition of majority...if I get more of something compared to someone else dd I not get the majority of it? By the way, I don't have any warm fuzzies about anything in terms of the election...maybe reread what I was commenting on....and I guess we found another saying that you doesn't like...oh no!!! When dealing with numbers/percentages....I just go by the standard definition rather than make up my own, which is more than half. Like I said we could all mince and parce words to fit our own little warm fuzzies, however in the case of the last election, neither of the candidates received votes from half of Americans, nor half of those who voted for President in this election. It's okay, it's okay.....it's not the first time the winner hasn't received the majority. It's just the facts of the matter. I never said I didn't like the saying, I was just pointing out how some really, really do. But to be honest, I was hoping more for a whackadoodle, that one seems to really get the juices flowin.
mspart Posted March 13 Posted March 13 2 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said: .it's not the first time the winner hasn't received the majority. It's just the facts of the matter. Bill Clinton says this is true. mspart
WrestlingRasta Posted March 13 Posted March 13 8 minutes ago, mspart said: Bill Clinton says this is true. mspart The list is long and filled with both Republicans and Democrats. It’s okay.
mspart Posted March 13 Posted March 13 He's the last that I remember. He won with 43% of the vote in 1992 with 44.9 million votes. 50 million votes went against him. I know Trump won in 2016 similarly so yes, it does happen both ways. Just giving examples. Bush won in 2000 with just a bare minority vote. I just found that one. I was on a trip in 1991 or 1992 and was watching TV, Cleveland debates or something. First I ever heard of Clinton. I knew from that moment, that he would be the next president. There was something about him. He definitely had that IT factor. mspart
WrestlingRasta Posted March 13 Posted March 13 44 minutes ago, mspart said: He's the last that I remember. He won with 43% of the vote in 1992 with 44.9 million votes. 50 million votes went against him. I know Trump won in 2016 similarly so yes, it does happen both ways. Just giving examples. Bush won in 2000 with just a bare minority vote. I just found that one. I was on a trip in 1991 or 1992 and was watching TV, Cleveland debates or something. First I ever heard of Clinton. I knew from that moment, that he would be the next president. There was something about him. He definitely had that IT factor. mspart In a weird way, he and Regan while very different; reminded me of each other.
Wrestleknownothing Posted March 13 Posted March 13 (edited) 6 hours ago, Bigbrog said: What is your definition of majority...if I get more of something compared to someone else dd I not get the majority of it? By the way, I don't have any warm fuzzies about anything in terms of the election...maybe reread what I was commenting on....and I guess we found another saying that you doesn't like...oh no!!! Getting the most without getting more than half is plurality More than half is majority Edited March 13 by Wrestleknownothing 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
mspart Posted March 13 Posted March 13 ^ This A plurality of the vote can be a majority in the electoral college. Most often it is not (when someone has less votes than someone else), but with a concentration of people on the coasts, their electoral vote is not as great as those in the interior. Hillary to her dismay and unbelief, got a majority of votes, but neglected to account for the electoral college and actually lost. Her dismissal of WI will forever be a tale of warning for future presidential candidates. Never count your eggs before they hatch is a corollary. mspart 1
jross Posted March 13 Author Posted March 13 The U.S. presidential election is decided by the Electoral College, not the popular vote. If you look at the percent of electoral votes won, Trump's 2024 win ranks 41st out of 60 elections with 57.99% of the electoral votes. It was decisive but not a landslide. Comparing his electoral victory to the popular vote to minimize the win is a midwit criticism, as it ignores the constitutional framework that defines presidential elections. Trump’s sweep of all swing states (AZ, GA, MI, NV, NC, PA, WI), flipping the Senate (53-47 Republican), and holding a House majority (218-217 as of now) signal a shift from 2020’s Democratic control; that is a political mandate for change!
mspart Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Agreed. Not only that, but the Ds are completely lost. They lost a lot bigger than the election results would indicate. They are on an island howling at the moon, alone and no one can hear them. They are rudderless and do not know where they are going. They have created a video where female reps are doing smash bros style fighting stances. It doesn't get worse than that. This was a seismic shift and the Ds were not ready and haven't figured out what happened. They are lost and there isn't anyone that can help them because they aren't listening or observing. Their man on CNN, Van Jones, is saying htat now. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14481817/cnn-van-jones-democrats-party-screwed-star-democratic.html CNN star Van Jones gives blistering on-air diatribe about why Dems' apocalypse is only getting worse Van Jones launched into a blistering diatribe against the Democrat party and says he can see why its hemorrhaging voters. Jones, a former Obama adviser let rip on CNN Newsroom Sunday and couldn't help but let out a laugh as he ran through his party's recent struggles. He warned the 'Democrats don’t know what to do,' due to discord within the party. He then framed the situation 'as a nightmare' worsened by its loss of the House of Representatives to the Republican party. mspart
Offthemat Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Their only guiding principle seems to be opposing Trump at every turn. That puts them at odds with the majority of Americans, who predominantly agree with his positions and methods.
WrestlingRasta Posted March 14 Posted March 14 Yes, majority and predominantly for….some….Americans. Parrot’s gonna parrot.
jross Posted March 14 Author Posted March 14 6 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: Yes, majority and predominantly for….some….Americans. Parrot’s gonna parrot. There are tells …. Americans want peace, not war. Americans want illegal immigrants out.
WrestlingRasta Posted March 14 Posted March 14 There are nine tells, and what it tells us is that in not one single one of them do the majority of Americans predominantly agree with the way things are being handled. Not even close. But there’s plenty of time for those numbers to go up. I sure hope they do. I kinda like our country, no matter who’s in charge.
RockLobster Posted March 14 Posted March 14 16 hours ago, Bigbrog said: Took you a month to figure out how to respond...not surprised. Whatever mental gymnastics you want to play about it being a landslide is all good...however, in regard to elections all the experts consider Trumps win a landslide...but hey, live in a fantasy world if you wish. A month is very brief, given how low you are on my priority list. As far as "all the experts" - you need to find new experts. Seriously. The votes cast were ~49/~48. When anyone says that the US citizens have spoken and it is overwhelming, they lie.
RockLobster Posted March 14 Posted March 14 (edited) By far, the vast majority of Americans want peace - it's always the better alternative. Unfortunately, it can't be settled in "24 hours". So much more complicated than that. Peace at the price of essentially handing much of Ukraine over to Russia? That's not something the vast majority of Americans support. Peace by demanding monetary value from our Ukraine ally before we provide defense against Russia? That's not something the vast majority of Americans support. By far, the vast majority of Americans want controlled and managed borders. For many decades, this has been an ongoing problem. Through both R and D administrations. The budget for the US Customs & Border Control is is over $9 Billion. And was under Biden, as well. This problem has not been ignored, nor has it been underfunded. It has proven to be difficult for decades. Illegal immigrants are known to be working in many places. Out in the open, and with little problems with the law. In Texas, they form the backbone for hard working jobs like landscaping and agriculture. In Florida golf courses they are employed on the grounds crew, maid services, food services, etc. Many, many more examples of how the US has become increasingly dependent on cheap illegal labor. It's an ounce of prevention being worth a pound of cure situation As much as we'd all like illegal immigrants out - we'd much rather focus on stopping them from coming in. Americans are smart that way. Common sense is never lost on us. Politicians and internet bozo's like to twist everything around. Give fake perspectives, false promises, and solutions that will never work. At the end of the day, the vast majority of us - by far - agree on most things. The solution lies in us all working together. That can only happen when we stop arguing amongst ourselves and start cooperating. It is the devil's work that shameless types try so hard to try to split us up. It truly is. And it is right in front of us everyday. We should all be wary of it. Edited March 14 by RockLobster
1032004 Posted March 18 Posted March 18 Serious question. Musk paid Trump $250 million to be co-President, why is the Donald still using Truth Social as his primary social media platform?
Caveira Posted March 18 Posted March 18 (edited) 1 minute ago, 1032004 said: Serious question. Musk paid Trump $250 million to be co-President, why is the Donald still using Truth Social as his primary social media platform? Cause musk isn’t co president. Edited March 18 by Caveira 1 1
headshuck Posted March 18 Posted March 18 I hope Dems put all their resources into campaigning against Musk in 2028. 1
Caveira Posted March 18 Posted March 18 8 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Serious question. Musk paid Trump $250 million to be co-President, why is the Donald still using Truth Social as his primary social media platform? Please snow tweet or post count between the two. here are a couple from x. I don’t have truth social so I can’t compare Kids are cute
Offthemat Posted March 18 Posted March 18 7 minutes ago, Caveira said: Please snow tweet or post count between the two. here are a couple from x. I don’t have truth social so I can’t compare Are you saying he practices diversity, equity, and inclusion?
Caveira Posted March 18 Posted March 18 2 minutes ago, Offthemat said: Are you saying he practices diversity, equity, and inclusion? Maybe he is a dei leader laid off recently ? I dunno of course.
Wrestleknownothing Posted March 18 Posted March 18 31 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Serious question. Musk paid Trump $250 million to be co-President, why is the Donald still using Truth Social as his primary social media platform? Trump owns 59% of Truth Social's parent company. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
1032004 Posted March 18 Posted March 18 27 minutes ago, Caveira said: Please snow tweet or post count between the two. here are a couple from x. I don’t have truth social so I can’t compare Kids are cute Yeah thanks for proving the point. It’s March 17th and he hasn’t posted on x since March 11th. He’s had 6 posts on x in the entire month of March. This account copies his Truth Social posts. Looks like he made over 15 “truths” today alone.
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