Le duke Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Who will you predict after Haines goes up to 165 and him and Haines both lose to Facundo in the wrestleoff?I’m still a Facundo fan but he only sees the lineup if someone else takes a RS or gets injured.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Le duke said: I’m still a Facundo fan but he only sees the lineup if someone else takes a RS or gets injured. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk They have a shit tonne of Olyshirts available, so it is hard to tell what they will do even if Stalrocci doesn't return. They could even do Barr at 174 with Facundo and Mesenbrink on Olyshirt, Haines at 165 and a Lee or Bearclaw at 157 and still win NCAAs running away. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 43 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Did he mean etch? Etch his name? Not sure. He absolutely meant etch. Gave me a chuckle though. Kind of like when I hear "a tough road to hoe". Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 hour ago, nhs67 said: They have a shit tonne of Olyshirts available, so it is hard to tell what they will do even if Stalrocci doesn't return. Starrocci not returning still a thing? Have heard nothing other than he'll be in the lineup I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwebster Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 On 8/15/2023 at 7:13 AM, nhs67 said: Is there a personal reason for this? Like blood relation of some sorts? Anybody care to make a list of finalists who moved up and won? I'm sure I'm just fixated on those who haven't and so I am drawing a blank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Anybody care to make a list of finalists who moved up and won? I'm sure I'm just fixated on those who haven't and so I am drawing a blank.Quite a few. Dake, Taylor, Ruth, Nickal, Yianni…Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwebster Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, Le duke said: Quite a few. Dake, Taylor, Ruth, Nickal, Yianni… Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Duhh. My bad. What about guys that weren't champs at the lower weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Duhh. My bad. What about guys that weren't champs at the lower weight?Nickal, Taylor…Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 16 hours ago, flyingcement said: Personally I think that last match was as close as Woods would be able to hope for against someone of Alirez caliber. I think Bartlett is likely to be on a trajectory to place himself above Woods for this coming year How skewed is this assessment based on freestyle results from Alirez and Barlett? Bartlett may have unlocked something but he was clearly a tier below Woods last year. Alirez and Woods were a toss up with Alirez hitting an amazing leg vine throw being the difference. Tier 1: Alirez, Woods Tier 2: Barlett, Hardy, Cole Matthews Tier 3: about 20 guys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Le duke said: Nickal, Taylor… Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 8 minutes ago, jackwebster said: Duhh. My bad. What about guys that weren't champs at the lower weight? Vito 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Jordan Burroughs took 3rd at 149 before moving up to 157 and winning.Retherford took 5th at 141 before taking a RS, bumping up to 149 and killing everyone for three years.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunaticfringe Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Jayson Ness, Damion Hahn moved up mid season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Le duke said: Jordan Burroughs took 3rd at 149 before moving up to 157 and winning. Retherford took 5th at 141 before taking a RS, bumping up to 149 and killing everyone for three years. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I'm sure there are a ton of other examples. Here are a few Jayson Ness started at 125 and won a title at 133 Frank Molinaro started at 141 and won a title at 149 Cassar started at 197 and won a title at HWT Cory Clark started at 125 and won a title at 133 Max Dean started at 184 and won a title at 197 JP O'Connor started at 149 and won a title at 157 Kyle Snyder started at 197 and won 3 titles at HWT Nino started at 184 and won a title at 197 Ashnault started at 141 and won a title at 149 Bubba Jenkins started at 149 and won a title at 157 Jake Herbert started at 174 and won 2 titles at 184 Damion Hahn started at 184 and won 2 titles at 197 Edited August 16, 2023 by Gus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Gus said: I'm sure there are a ton of other examples. Here are a few Jayson Ness started at 125 and won a title at 133 Frank Molinaro started at 141 and won a title at 149 Cassar started at 197 and won a title at HWT Cory Clark started at 125 and won a title at 133 Max Dean started at 184 and won a title at 197 JP O'Connor started at 149 and won a title at 157 Kyle Snyder started at 197 and won 3 titles at HWT Nino started at 184 and won a title at 197 Ashnault started at 141 and won a title at 149 Bubba Jenkins started at 149 and won a title at 157 Jake Herbert started at 174 and won 2 titles at 184 Damion Hahn started at 184 and won 2 titles at 197 Tony Ramos started at 125 and won a title at 133 Jordan Leen started at 149 and won a title at 157 Suriano started at 125, won a title at 133 then went down and won a title again at 125 Dustin Kilgore started at 184 and won a title at 197 Max Askren did the opposite and started at 197 and dropped to 184 as a senior to win a title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, jackwebster said: Anybody care to make a list of finalists who moved up and won? I'm sure I'm just fixated on those who haven't and so I am drawing a blank. 2 hours ago, jackwebster said: Duhh. My bad. What about guys that weren't champs at the lower weight? This could be a long list if we go back further than recent memory. To add from what others have already posted. Ryan Deakin, Anthony Ashnault, Macchiavello Edited August 16, 2023 by PortaJohn I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mizzou Fan Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 On 8/15/2023 at 6:15 AM, nhs67 said: I can't help but notice you hate Michigan. 'splain yo'self. He doesn't like Mizzou too much either! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedFan Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, jackwebster said: Duhh. My bad. What about guys that weren't champs at the lower weight? Vito and Nahshon Garrett. Edited August 17, 2023 by BigRedFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted August 17, 2023 Author Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Mizzou Fan said: He doesn't like Mizzou too much either! To be honest with you my bias is usually in favor of small market amd underdog teams - which pushes against the edge of unrealistic. But the reason why I have some other big schools doing well is that I liked those guys before they transfered away from Cal Baptist and North Dakota State. Missouri is traditionally one of the strongest teams (as well as NC State) which are always competitive but their lineup is almost always home grown (few meaningful incoming transfers) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeryOldFormerGrappler Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 As far as a former natty champ who enjoyed an amazing growth trend throughout his HS & college career was Jon Llewellyn (may he R.I.P.) He began HS as a 98 pound freshman. He finished HS as a 167-pounder. He began college as a 167-pounder (if I'm not mistaken). And ended his career as the NCAA HWT National Champ, defeating Kurt Angle. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 27 minutes ago, VeryOldFormerGrappler said: As far as a former natty champ who enjoyed an amazing growth trend throughout his HS & college career was Jon Llewellyn (may he R.I.P.) He began HS as a 98 pound freshman. He finished HS as a 167-pounder. He began college as a 167-pounder (if I'm not mistaken). And ended his career as the NCAA HWT National Champ, defeating Kurt Angle. That was an incredible amount of growth. Very nice wrestling career. I went from 103 iin 9th grade to 167 in college. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 22 hours ago, PortaJohn said: Starrocci not returning still a thing? Have heard nothing other than he'll be in the lineup Yes I believe he made another recent social media post debating it. I assume he’ll be back though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 23 hours ago, nhs67 said: They have a shit tonne of Olyshirts available, so it is hard to tell what they will do even if Stalrocci doesn't return. They could even do Barr at 174 with Facundo and Mesenbrink on Olyshirt, Haines at 165 and a Lee or Bearclaw at 157 and still win NCAAs running away. I think Mesenbrink will start. Cael hopes he doesn’t win to keep his only undefeated 4xer status in tact 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 29 minutes ago, Paul158 said: That was an incredible amount of growth. Very nice wrestling career. I went from 103 iin 9th grade to 167 in college. David Taylor like. 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, 1032004 said: Yes I believe he made another recent social media post debating it. I assume he’ll be back though That post is hogwash. The kid is addicted to attention. Nothing more Edited August 17, 2023 by PortaJohn 2 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creek chub Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 On 8/15/2023 at 10:08 PM, Le duke said: I’ll just do PSU: 125: Howard, 7-8th or R12. 133: Nagao, 3rd 141: Bartlett, 2nd 149: SVN, 3rd 157: Haines, 1st 165: Messenbrink, 3rd 174: Starocci, 1st 184: Truax, 2nd 197: Brooks, 1st 285: Kerkvliet, 2nd Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Man, that’s a scary lineup! I wanted PSU to add VT back on their schedule. After seeing this, I no longer want that lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Carlin Burnt Hills-Ballston Lake, New York Class of 2025 Committed to Penn Projected Weight: 149, 157
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