Trump announces he is running for Prez again

[mspart]

Can I be the first to say ENOUGH!!   His policies were good for the country for the most part, but his personality and all the drama it brought was not.  A lot of that is his fault, with a large amount being the press's fault with false allegations and general negativity towards him. 

Time for someone else.

mspart

[Ban Basketball]

Yet, here's betting that you supported Deuce right up until you were told by AM radyo and Tattletale "News" in the past week to begin questioning Deuce's candidacy, right?

I thought so...  

Edited November 17, 2022 by Ban Basketball

[jchapman]

Will he extend his popular vote losing record?  Do the Republicans primary him?  Will he again run on building the wall?  Lots of plot lines to play out.

[nick]

from Mitch McConnell

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"We underperformed among independents and moderates because their impression of many of the people in our party, and leadership roles, is that they're dogged in chaos, negativity, excessive attacks," he told reporters at the Capitol following a closed-door caucus meeting. "And it frightened independent and moderate Republican voters."

(https://www.businessinsider.com/mitch-mcconnell-never-predicted-red-wave-voters-frightened-republicans-2022-11)

 

Interesting article with some data...

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If we focus exclusively on districts where the margin of victory was less than 15 points, such that the seat was conceivably in the balance, the picture that emerges is quite different.

In these 114 districts, candidates bearing Trump endorsements underperformed their baseline by a whopping five points, while Republicans who were without Trump’s blessing overperformed their baseline by 2.2 points — a remarkable difference of more than seven points.

 

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In short, Trump remains quite popular among Republican voters, and his endorsement was decisive in plenty of House primaries this summer. But close association with the twice-impeached president was a clear liability in competitive 2022 House races, turning what would have been a modest-but-solid Republican majority into (at best) a razor-thin one

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/11/15/data-trump-weighed-down-republican-candidates/

 

Would seem to me that the hardcore GOP members still love Trump, however moderates and independents do not and if the party wants to win, they need to move away from Trump and become more moderate

Edited November 18, 2022 by nick

[Mike Parrish]

"If I declare my candidacy, the DoJ won't dare to indict me!"

 

lolol

[Ban Basketball]

10 hours ago, Mike Parrish said:

"If I declare my candidacy, the DoJ won't dare to indict me!"

 

lolol

That's the most pitiful thing about this:  Deuce is going to be numerously indicted in mere days, and to think you'd be so short sighted as to not focus on that mess, first and foremost.

[mspart]

22 hours ago, Ban Basketball said:

Yet, here's betting that you supported Deuce right up until you were told by AM radyo and Tattletale "News" in the past week to begin questioning Deuce's candidacy, right?

I thought so...  

Incorrect.  I did vote for him twice.   What?  Vote for Hillary or Joe?  Joe has been  just awesome eh!

But not interested in Trump anymore.   Policies were good, but his constant sniping and D's and Media constant sniping is too much.  I don't want that anymore.  Too much toxicity and drama.

mspart

[mspart]

18 hours ago, nick said:

 if the party wants to win, they need to move away from Trump and become more moderate

this

mspart

[Ban Basketball]

6 hours ago, mspart said:

  I did vote for him twice.   

As I said,  translation:  I supported him.  If you vote for someone,  you supported them. 

Yous hands aint clean.

[Husker_Du]

1 hour ago, Ban Basketball said:

As I said,  translation:  I supported him.  If you vote for someone,  you supported them. 

Yous hands aint clean.

ah. the tolerant left.

mspart, let's start "The Dirty Hands Club"

[Mike Parrish]

10 hours ago, Husker_Du said:

ah. the tolerant left.

mspart, let's start "The Dirty Hands Club"

See: The Good German

[Ban Basketball]

10 hours ago, Husker_Du said:

ah. the tolerant left.

mspart, let's start "The Dirty Hands Club"

Lost me again on that one, sir. 

WOWZA!

[Wrestleknownothing]

On 11/17/2022 at 10:36 PM, Mike Parrish said:

"If I declare my candidacy, the DoJ won't dare to indict me!"

 

lolol

My first thought too.

[RYou]

DeSantis or Abbott, the dark horse in this race.....Nikki Haley.  If not #1, she'll get VP'd.

[nick]

If Trump loses the primary to (assuming) DeSantis, does he run as a third party and then siphon off the vote?

In that case does Newsom decide to run (right now he says no) and sweep the election with a splintered GOP vote?

[Husker_Du]

how can anyone look at the current state of California and vote Newsome?

that's rhetorical. it's crazy, but some certainly would (vote for him)

[Mike Parrish]

1 hour ago, Husker_Du said:

how can anyone look at the current state of California and vote Newsome?

that's rhetorical. it's crazy, but some certainly would (vote for him)

You mean the fourth largest economy in the world that routinely runs budget surpluses now?

Cra-zy!

[jross]

Can California afford a single toilet?  Cra-zy!
 

[Theo Brixton]

Trump's advocacy for wide-scale covid restrictions should eliminate him from consideration by any thinking, freedom-loving American. Many of the economic and societal problems we face today and in the future are/will be due to these destructive policies and blame can be placed at his feet. A total clown.

Newsom is a virtue-signaling, platitude-spewing empty suit. Yes, California has been an economic engine but to credit Newsom is more than generous. California's tech and biotech are heavily reliant upon historically low interest rates. California's agriculture is vulnerable to drought which will become increasingly problematic. The Federal Reserve policies have had far more to do with the boom in tech/biotech than any policy Newsom could enact. The question is what is going to happen if interest rates remain high or continue to increase? Chances are there will be a lot fewer companies making phone apps that make pancakes and rub your balls. Will Newsom take credit for the coming downturn? 

Unfortunately, these are the politicians we deserve but aren't the ones we need.

[Mike Parrish]

It's simpler than that.

We voted out almost all of the Republican ding dongs and now things work great.

[Theo Brixton]

12 minutes ago, Mike Parrish said:

It's simpler than that.

We voted out almost all of the Republican ding dongs and now things work great.

 

[Ban Basketball]

Kind of a bad look for Deuce here, friends.

Not the first time Deuce and several in the GOP have met with such people.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/f-ing-nightmare-trump-team-damage-control-dines-ye-white-supremacist-n-rcna58780

[jross]

My initial reasons for liking Trump.

• His success with quickly accomplishing what the government could not with the Wollman ice skating rink 
• His real estate stories helped me have the confidence to buy a rental property 15 years ago
• The positivity I felt when he talked about America’s greatness
• His talk on bringing more manufacturing back to the USA
• He was an outsider that brought an optimism to drain the swamp

But I did not vote for him in 2016.

What I liked when he was president 

• The economy flourished and my 401k soared
• Healthcare service cost transparency 
• USA first.  Better trade deals with and accountability from other countries.  Also brought manufacturing back.
• Reduced troops over seas
• Low unemployment 
• Responsibility with regulations
• Tougher on illegal immigration 
• He increased awareness to fake news and corruption
• The battle between trying to run the country like a business owner and the the gov power checks and balances
• His ability to achieve results while big tech, the media, and left gov was against him

How his presidency impacted me

• My 401k increased
• My home and rental property values increased 
• My salary increased
• My tax deductions decreased 
• I was able to price shop health care services
• Twitter became insufferable 
• I stopped using google as a primary search engine
• I started consuming more news sources to address misinformation 
• I began to wish that California would be allowed to secede
• My son began struggling with the foreign language immersion school during the pandemic and I switched him to normal school.

How the pandemic was handled by both presidents has had negative impacts.  The media destroyed my grandmas quality of life.  The covid policy resulted in several of my favorite businesses closing for good, work attrition, and work layoffs.  Now I have less buying power and raises/promotions are still frozen.

Note: there is plenty not to like with Trump but above was my positives.

Edited December 7, 2022 by jross

[Mike Parrish]

What the Georgia Runoff Revealed

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Sen. Raphael Warnock’s win in yesterday’s Georgia Senate runoff capped a commanding show of strength by Democrats in the states that decided the 2020 race for the White House—and will likely pick the winner again in 2024.

With Warnock’s victory over Republican Herschel Walker, Democrats have defeated every GOP Senate and gubernatorial candidate endorsed by Donald Trump this year in the five states that flipped from supporting him in 2016 to backing Joe Biden in 2020: Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Georgia, and Arizona.

Please proceed, GOP.

[Crotalus]

He increased awareness to fake news and corruption

Virtually everything he said or tweeted was a verifiable lie (aka "alternative fact"), including most of his criticism of the media.

 The media destroyed my grandmas quality of life.

Wait.......what?????