RandolphTJones Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Franek and Caliendo transferring in. Both middleweights. How is Iowa going to make this work? Thought I had heard Franek was a pretty big 157lber last season, so who knows if he plans to move up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxhawk174 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 For next year 125 - Ayala (Guessing we see Cruz to start the season) 133 - Teske/Schriever 141 - Woods (Block redshirt) 149 - Voinovich/Rathjen 157 - Franek/Siebrecht (Ferrari Redshirt) 165 - Kennedy/Caliendo 174 - Brands/Caliendo (Arnold redshirt) 184- Assad/Brands 197 - Franklin/Assad (Possibly AJ Ferrari) 285 - Cassioppi One guy will be sitting between Kennedy/Caliendo/Brands .. unless Brands bumps up. Then either Assad/Franklin will be sitting. The 65/74 situation will be similarly stacked for 2024-2025 and 2025-2026 as well with Arnold entering the mix. Good problem to have IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pretty_rob Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 35 minutes ago, Laxhawk174 said: For next year 125 - Ayala (Guessing we see Cruz to start the season) 133 - Teske/Schriever 141 - Woods (Block redshirt) 149 - Voinovich/Rathjen 157 - Franek/Siebrecht (Ferrari Redshirt) 165 - Kennedy/Caliendo 174 - Brands/Caliendo (Arnold redshirt) 184- Assad/Brands 197 - Franklin/Assad (Possibly AJ Ferrari) 285 - Cassioppi One guy will be sitting between Kennedy/Caliendo/Brands .. unless Brands bumps up. Then either Assad/Franklin will be sitting. The 65/74 situation will be similarly stacked for 2024-2025 and 2025-2026 as well with Arnold entering the mix. Good problem to have IMO. How bout this: 165: Kennedy 174: Brands 184: Caliendo 197: Assad I think Caliendo has the Frame to bump up two classes. I also think you don’t want to move brands outta 174. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Caliendo is the best of the bunch in my opinion. Problem is that 165 is the hardest class. He's one of a handful of people that has beat Shane Griffith and did so as a redshirt freshman out of a mid major program and earned All American. However this all shakes out, I would prioritize the correct placement of Caliendo above all else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 I think its official now that Caliendo is the second most valuable transfer of the offseason so far. Mesenbrink is top because he has all four years left. Will be fun to see these guys lock horns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 I think its official now that Caliendo is the second most valuable transfer of the offseason so far. Mesenbrink is top because he has all four years left. Will be fun to see these guys lock horns I’d put Nagao at #2, as he has the higher likely point production, compared to Caliendo.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Laxhawk174 said: For next year 125 - Ayala (Guessing we see Cruz to start the season) 133 - Teske/Schriever 141 - Woods (Block redshirt) 149 - Voinovich/Rathjen 157 - Franek/Siebrecht (Ferrari Redshirt) 165 - Kennedy/Caliendo 174 - Brands/Caliendo (Arnold redshirt) 184- Assad/Brands 197 - Franklin/Assad (Possibly AJ Ferrari) 285 - Cassioppi One guy will be sitting between Kennedy/Caliendo/Brands .. unless Brands bumps up. Then either Assad/Franklin will be sitting. The 65/74 situation will be similarly stacked for 2024-2025 and 2025-2026 as well with Arnold entering the mix. Good problem to have IMO. I'd have to assume Siebrecht cuts back down to 149 now to try to battle for that spot too? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbane Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Laxhawk174 said: For next year 125 - Ayala (Guessing we see Cruz to start the season) 133 - Teske/Schriever 141 - Woods (Block redshirt) 149 - Voinovich/Rathjen 157 - Franek/Siebrecht (Ferrari Redshirt) 165 - Kennedy/Caliendo 174 - Brands/Caliendo (Arnold redshirt) 184- Assad/Brands 197 - Franklin/Assad (Possibly AJ Ferrari) 285 - Cassioppi One guy will be sitting between Kennedy/Caliendo/Brands .. unless Brands bumps up. Then either Assad/Franklin will be sitting. The 65/74 situation will be similarly stacked for 2024-2025 and 2025-2026 as well with Arnold entering the mix. Good problem to have IMO. This could see Iowa start a lineup with 7 transfers. What is the most transfers a team has matted for a dual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlacknGold Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 125- Ayala (SO)/Cruz (RSFR) 133- Teske (SR)/Schriever (JR) (Peterson redshirt) 141- Woods (SR)/Schroeder (JR) (Block redshirt) (Grebel redshirt) 149- Voinovich (SO)/Rathjen (SO) 157- Franek (SR)/Siebrecht (JR) (Ferrari redshirt) 165- Kennedy (SO)/Riggins (RSFR) (Fenton redshirt) 174- Caliendo (SO)/Swafford (SR) (Arnold redshirt) 184- Brands (SR)/Assad (SR) 197- Franklin (RSFR)/Glazier (JR) - Ferrari* (SO) 285- Cassioppi (SR)/Hill (RSFR) (Kueter redshirt) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlacknGold Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Great lineup and depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 39 minutes ago, BlacknGold said: 197- Franklin (RSFR)/Glazier (JR) - Ferrari* (OJS) ftfy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Looks like a fourth, maybe third place team.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Jim Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, BlacknGold said: 125- Ayala (SO)/Cruz (RSFR) 133- Teske (SR)/Schriever (JR) (Peterson redshirt) 141- Woods (SR)/Schroeder (JR) (Block redshirt) (Grebel redshirt) 149- Voinovich (SO)/Rathjen (SO) 157- Franek (SR)/Siebrecht (JR) (Ferrari redshirt) 165- Kennedy (SO)/Riggins (RSFR) (Fenton redshirt) 174- Caliendo (SO)/Swafford (SR) (Arnold redshirt) 184- Brands (SR)/Assad (SR) 197- Franklin (RSFR)/Glazier (JR) - Ferrari* (SO) 285- Cassioppi (SR)/Hill (RSFR) (Kueter redshirt) This looks right to me except maybe Siebricht will cut to 149 if he feels he can get that spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlacknGold Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 22 minutes ago, Hillbilly Jim said: This looks right to me except maybe Siebricht will cut to 149 if he feels he can get that spot. Not sure if Kobe makes that cut, but it's possible. Also unsure if Caliendo moves up. Just a projection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 125 - Teske 133 - Ayala (Schriever to start the season) 141 - Woods 149 - Siebrecht/Voinovich 157 - Franek 165 - Kennedy 174 - Brands 184 - Caliendo 197 - Assad (Suspended?)/Franklin 285 - Cassioppi I am not believing a Focus will wrestle for Iowa until I see them actually take the mat for them. Also, where does Swafford fit in there? Does he try his hands up at 197 somehow? "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlacknGold Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, nhs67 said: 125 - Teske 133 - Ayala (Schriever to start the season) 184 - Caliendo I am not believing a Focus will wrestle for Iowa until I see them actually take the mat for them. Also, where does Swafford fit in there? Does he try his hands up at 197 somehow? Maybe? But Caliendo to 184 is a reach. Think he stays 165/174 most likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, nhs67 said: 125 - Teske 133 - Ayala (Schriever to start the season) 141 - Woods 149 - Siebrecht/Voinovich 157 - Franek 165 - Kennedy 174 - Brands 184 - Caliendo 197 - Assad (Suspended?)/Franklin 285 - Cassioppi I am not believing a Focus will wrestle for Iowa until I see them actually take the mat for them. Also, where does Swafford fit in there? Does he try his hands up at 197 somehow? Between the two of us, we need to keep pushing the narrative of Teske and Ayala switching. I never heard it was a possibility but I think it makes a lot of sense. Especially with Ayala being injury prone- build more mass in his upper body to help compensate for the should while bumping up to 33. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkguy Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Le duke said: Looks like a fourth, maybe third place team. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk This is just idiotic lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Just now, hawkguy said: This is just idiotic lmao I think they’re a pretty solid 3rd after adding Caliendo and Franek, but I’d still take Michigan over them for 2nd. If they add AJ they probably pass Michigan. And still likely only win a match or 2 against PSU… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, 1032004 said: If they add AJ they probably ftfy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxhawk174 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, 1032004 said: I think they’re a pretty solid 3rd after adding Caliendo and Franek, but I’d still take Michigan over them for 2nd. If they add AJ they probably pass Michigan. And still likely only win a match or 2 against PSU… I actually think Cornell will have a tougher tournament lineup than Michigan. Cornell has more high end scorers - Arujau/Foca/Shapiro(who looks every bit of the real deal in freestyle) probably outscore Griffith/Amine/Davison IMO. Then similar supporting casts of lower AA's + R12/R16 finishers. (Cardenas/Loew/Ramirez/Cornella) vs (DeAug/Ragusin/Cannon/Lewan) I personally think Iowa ends up 2nd (shocker right?), but an argument for Cornell or Michigan above them isn't crazy by any means - still some unknowns with Iowa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Laxhawk174 said: I actually think Cornell will have a tougher tournament lineup than Michigan. Cornell has more high end scorers - Arujau/Foca/Shapiro(who looks every bit of the real deal in freestyle) probably outscore Griffith/Amine/Davison IMO. Then similar supporting casts of lower AA's + R12/R16 finishers. (Cardenas/Loew/Ramirez/Cornella) vs (DeAug/Ragusin/Cannon/Lewan) I personally think Iowa ends up 2nd (shocker right?), but an argument for Cornell or Michigan above them isn't crazy by any means - still some unknowns with Iowa. Possible. Maybe there’s a bigger competition for 2nd than I thought. Interestingly wrestlestat has Michigan #7 and Iowa #8, but #2 (Nebraska) and #8 are only separated by about 10 points. They do already have Franek and Caliendo on Iowa, but currently have Caliendo as a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formally140 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 51 minutes ago, nhs67 said: 125 - Teske 133 - Ayala (Schriever to start the season) 141 - Woods 149 - Siebrecht/Voinovich 157 - Franek 165 - Kennedy 174 - Brands 184 - Caliendo 197 - Assad (Suspended?)/Franklin 285 - Cassioppi I am not believing a Focus will wrestle for Iowa until I see them actually take the mat for them. Also, where does Swafford fit in there? Does he try his hands up at 197 somehow? Assad is in trouble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlacknGold Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 minute ago, 1032004 said: Possible. Maybe there’s a bigger competition for 2nd than I thought. Interestingly wrestlestat has Michigan #7 and Iowa #8, but #2 (Nebraska) and #8 are only separated by about 10 points. They do already have Franek and Caliendo on Iowa, but currently have Caliendo as a backup. Wrestlestat bases that off returning points only, meaning someone like Drake Ayala counts for 0 points. It's a lame assessment. Michigan has a good roster but probably a better dual team than tournament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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