Mizzou over Arizona St!

[Mizzou Fan]

Projecting Mizzou wins assuming they have a full Or close to full) lineup.  Rocky Elam hasn't wrestled yet.  Hart was out during this past weekend's tourn. due to illness.   Colton Hawks beat Sean Harmon in Saturday's tourn finals.  (Do we have a new starter at 184?)

Courtney dec Surtain 

McGee dec Brown

Hart dec Vasquez

Mauller dec Parco

Jacques maj dec Wilner

O'Toole pin Negron

Mocco maj dec Valencia

Montalvo dec Hawks/Harmon

Elam dec Norfleet

Upset!    Elam dec Schultz

 

Thoughts?  Lineup differences?  Other opinions?

 

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

8 minutes ago, Mizzou Fan said:

 

Courtney dec Surtain   ASU 3 - Mizz 0

McGee dec Brown   ASU 6 - Mizz 0

Hart dec Vasquez   ASU 6 - Mizz 3

Mauller dec Parco  ASU 6 - Mizz 6

Jacques maj dec Wilner  ASU 6 - Mizz 10

O'Toole pin Negron   ASU 6 - Mizz 16

Mocco maj dec Valencia   ASU 6 - Mizz 20

Montalvo dec Hawks/Harmon    ASU 9 - Mizz 20

Elam dec Norfleet   ASU 9 - Mizz 23

Upset!    Elam dec Schultz  ASU 9 - Mizz 26

 

Thoughts?  Lineup differences?  Other opinions?

 

 

Added your scores for clarity. 

With ASU missing Teemer, Missouri has to be favored in 6 of 10, so yeah. 

[nhs67]

In Arizona State's preview this is who they list of both squads... not much help:

ASU Probable Lineup:

- 125 -

No. 5 Brandon Courtney: 2x All-American, 3x Pac-12 Champion

or

Richard Figueroa: Won bronze at 57 kg at the 2021 Junior Pan American Games

- 133 -

No. 4  Michael McGee: 2x All-American, Pac-12 Champion

or

Julian Chlebove: 7-6 record as Redshirt freshman, earning two tech falls and one major decision.

- 141 -

HM Jesse Vasquez: 7-1 before season-ending injury in 2021-22 season

- 149 -

No. 3 Kyle Parco: 2x All-American, Pac-12 Champion

- 157 -

Max Wilner: Appeared in 3 tournaments, earning a 7-4 overall record with 2 falls

or

Michael Kilic: 3x state champion in Georgia, 2x Fargo All-American      (Greco-Roman    Champion)

- 165 -

No. 19 Tony Negron: Transferred from Penn State where he went 5-0 at Edinboro Open

- 174 -

Cael Valencia: Redshirted last year, going 12-4 in open tournaments

or

Josh Nummer: Went 2-2 at the '22 Pac-12 Championships

- 184 -

No. 20 Anthony Montalvo: All-American, '20 Big-12 bronze medalist

- 197 -

Jonathon Fagen:  Transferred from Cornell where he went 6-7 as a freshman

or

No. 15 Kordell Norfleet: 4x NCAA Qualifier, 4x Pac-12 Champion

- HWT -

No. 1 Cohlton Schultz: 2x Pac-12 Champion, 2x All-American, '22 NCAA runner-up

or

David Palosika: Did not compete last season
 
Missouri Probable lineup:

- 125 -

No. 14 Noah Surtin: '22 NCAA qualifier

- 133 -

HM Connor Brown: '18 NCAA qualifier

- 141 -

No. 6 Allan Hart: 3x NCAA qualifier

or

Kordin Shepherd

- 149 -

No. 8 Brock Mauller: 3x All-American, '21 fifth place finish

- 157 -

No. 15 Jarrett Jacques: 4x NCAA qualifier

- 165 -

No. 1 Keegan O'Toole: Defending national champion, 2x All-American

or

James Conway

- 174 -

No. 9 Peyton Mocco: 3x NCAA qualifier

- 184 -

No. 22 Colton Hawks: Wrestled to an 8-3 record as unattached competitor last year

or

Sean Herman

- 197 -

No. 4 Rocky Elam: 2x All-American, '22 fourth place finish, '21 fifth place finish

or

Jesse Cassatt

- HWT -

No. 7 Zach Elam: 3x NCAA qualifier

Edited November 15, 2022 by nhs67

[Idaho]

This will be a great dual

 

Courtney or Figs  dec Surtain  3-0

McGee dec Brown 6-0

Hart dec Vasquez 6-3

Parco dec Mauller 9-3

Jacques MD Wilner  9-7

O'Toole MD Negron 9-11

Mocco dec Valencia 9-14

 Hawks/Harmon dec Montalvo 9-17

Elam dec Norfleet 9-20

Upset!    Schultz dec Elam 12-20

[TampaTiger]

5 hours ago, Idaho said:

This will be a great dual

 

Courtney or Figs  dec Surtain  3-0

McGee dec Brown 6-0

Hart dec Vasquez 6-3

Parco dec Mauller 9-3

Jacques MD Wilner  9-7

O'Toole MD Negron 9-11

Mocco dec Valencia 9-14

 Hawks/Harmon dec Montalvo 9-17

Elam dec Norfleet 9-20

Upset!    Schultz dec Elam 12-20

Good insight. I think Elam finally makes it to the podium, but Schultz is a monster and I think Elam falls short on this one. 

[TampaTiger]

Is this dual on flo? 

 

[MPhillips]

8 hours ago, TampaTiger said:

Is this dual on flo? 

 

https://pac-12.com/live?networks=P12I

[Idaho]

9 hours ago, TampaTiger said:

Good insight. I think Elam finally makes it to the podium, but Schultz is a monster and I think Elam falls short on this one. 

Agree.... Schultz is tough to score on with his size and leverage as a greco wrestler.  I just hope we see full lineups for the dual. Like every fan I want to see these matches happen.

[ionel]

2 hours ago, Idaho said:

Agree.... Schultz is tough to score on with his size and leverage as a greco wrestler.  I just hope we see full lineups for the dual. Like every fan I want to see these matches happen.

I'll go out on a limb and say we won't see the full expected starting lineups.  Meet you over in Board Bets? 

[wjd]

12 minutes ago, ionel said:

I'll go out on a limb and say we won't see the full expected starting lineups.  Meet you over in Board Bets? 

Safe bet with Teamer out. DK why Norfleet and Courtney didnt wrestle last week. Parco and Fagen both inj defaulted at Journeymen. Devil fan here but I can only see them winning a couple matches with a depleted lineup. Hell at full strength they werent going to win the dual.

[KCMO2]

19 hours ago, Mizzou Fan said:

Upset!    Elam dec Schultz

 

Thoughts?  Lineup differences?  Other opinions?

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 16, 2022 by KCMO2

[nhs67]

40 minutes ago, wjd said:

Safe bet with Teamer out. DK why Norfleet and Courtney didnt wrestle last week. Parco and Fagen both inj defaulted at Journeymen. Devil fan here but I can only see them winning a couple matches with a depleted lineup. Hell at full strength they werent going to win the dual.

Teemer is out for the season, isn't he?

Can't call him an expected starter for this season at all, then.

[Idaho]

49 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Teemer is out for the season, isn't he?

Can't call him an expected starter for this season at all, then.

Some are saying season... some are saying indefinitely... I don't expect him as a starter either.  I think if his injury goes into Feb we will not see him if he wants to get a medical year for 2023-24. If he doesn't want another year maybe he gives it a go at the end. 

[Tigerfan]

I don’t see this dual listed on Pac-12 network. Trying to stream thru Fubo subscription. Any help would be appreciated. 

[Tigerfan]

I think I found it. They sure don’t make it easy. 

[TampaTiger]

19 minutes ago, Tigerfan said:

I think I found it. They sure don’t make it easy. 

It's it free? I was looking as well but It looked love you have to have a subscription. 

[flanders]

20 minutes ago, Tigerfan said:

I think I found it. They sure don’t make it easy. 

Is it a subscription service or can we watch for free?

[flanders]

2 minutes ago, TampaTiger said:

It's it free? I was looking as well but It looked love you have to have a subscription. 

Beat me to it. Lol!

[Thumper]

never mind

Edited November 17, 2022 by Thumper

[ionel]

2 hours ago, TampaTiger said:

It's it free? I was looking as well but It looked love you have to have a subscription. 

 

2 hours ago, flanders said:

Is it a subscription service or can we watch for free?

Believe there have been times in the past where you could get the P12 video thru the ASU schedule at match time for free, but it seems you never know till the match actually starts.  If any actually know please post on this thread.  Should be a great meet but I'm not signing up for P12n just to see it.  

[VakAttack]

Is this available on the Pac12 network, or just online?

[Idaho]

1 hour ago, VakAttack said:

Is this available on the Pac12 network, or just online?

Yes 

[flanders]

2 hours ago, ionel said:

 

Believe there have been times in the past where you could get the P12 video thru the ASU schedule at match time for free, but it seems you never know till the match actually starts.  If any actually know please post on this thread.  Should be a great meet but I'm not signing up for P12n just to see it.  

According to this, there's a link and it says, "free to watch".

https://mutigers.com/news/2022/11/16/no-3-wrestling-heads-to-tempe-ariz-to-dual-with-no-5-arizona-state.aspx

[flanders]

On 11/15/2022 at 3:39 PM, Mizzou Fan said:

Projecting Mizzou wins assuming they have a full Or close to full) lineup.  Rocky Elam hasn't wrestled yet.  Hart was out during this past weekend's tourn. due to illness.   Colton Hawks beat Sean Harmon in Saturday's tourn finals.  (Do we have a new starter at 184?)

Courtney dec Surtain 

McGee dec Brown

Hart dec Vasquez

Mauller dec Parco

Jacques maj dec Wilner

O'Toole pin Negron

Mocco maj dec Valencia

Montalvo dec Hawks/Harmon

Elam dec Norfleet

Upset!    Elam dec Schultz

 

Thoughts?  Lineup differences?  Other opinions?

 

 

I like your picks except for Elam over Schultz. He's been pretty underwhelming so far and I wouldn't expect that to change tonight. Also, someone will have a headscratching loss for Mizzou. Maybe Jacques?

[Mizzou Fan]

I read earlier today that both Hart and Rocky Elam will be in the line-up tonight.  Hoping AZ State has full line-up as well.