WrestlingRasta Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 Have legal 'recreational' marijuana. How long till the feds give it a rest? (Trying to shift from talk of president's, and into something that actually impacts our daily life)
Plasmodium Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 It is only the geriatrics and far right nut jobs who won't give it a rest. The far right nut jobs aren't going anywhere, but the geriatrics won't last much longer.
Mike Parrish Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: Have legal 'recreational' marijuana. How long till the feds give it a rest? (Trying to shift from talk of president's, and into something that actually impacts our daily life) Not my drug of choice, but there's no reason for it not to be treated at least the same as alcohol. Why is it illegal? Britannica has the answer. https://www.britannica.com/story/why-is-marijuana-illegal-in-the-us
WrestlingRasta Posted June 1, 2023 Author Posted June 1, 2023 So....is that six months, two years,???
LJB Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 the lumber mills at the turn of the century were very threatened by hemp which is a more durable and easily reneweable material that can be used for damn near anything... always follow the money...
Plasmodium Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: So....is that six months, two years,??? Don't have a dog in this fight as I now live a stoner state and I don't personally use, but midterms -2026- will be the tipping point. 1
Plasmodium Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 As I live in a stoner state, I can say we need some changes. 1) Too much public consumption. 2) No definitive way to determine DUI. Lots of people smoke while driving. 3) Employment based drug screening. 2
WrestlingRasta Posted June 1, 2023 Author Posted June 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, Plasmodium said: As I live in a stoner state, I can say we need some changes. 1) Too much public consumption. 2) No definitive way to determine DUI. Lots of people smoke while driving. 3) Employment based drug screening. I'm in a medical state, medical prescriber, with a (government) job that does randoms. Certainly a tricky dynamic. I got my prescription after a hospital visit and just went straight to my superiors and told them. 22 minutes ago, Plasmodium said: Don't have a dog in this fight as I now live a stoner state and I don't personally use, but midterms -2026- will be the tipping point. I thought '24 would have a shot at the federal level but I think we would be hearing about it by now if it were going to make a big move.
jross Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) I thought Biden would legalize… they could have and did not. Not has he decriminalized… Edited June 1, 2023 by jross
Husker_Du Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 i really don't care about weed smoking and its laws. same as alcohol. but, generally speaking, i dont think it's a net positive for society. just my 2 cents. TBD
WrestlingRasta Posted June 1, 2023 Author Posted June 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Husker_Du said: i really don't care about weed smoking and its laws. same as alcohol. but, generally speaking, i dont think it's a net positive for society. just my 2 cents. You don't think legal on a federal level is a net positive? (Just clarifying)
LJB Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 15 minutes ago, Husker_Du said: i really don't care about weed smoking and its laws. same as alcohol. but, generally speaking, i dont think it's a net positive for society. just my 2 cents. while i have many mixed feelings about the pros and cons of federal legalization, don't act like humans have not been using cannabis since at least since we came down from the trees... cheeseburgers are a worse blight on this society... 2
Offthemat Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 I'm telling all you beware I don't think they really care Think they just sit up there And just get high
BobDole Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 Going from an illegal state to a legal state is always surprising when the smell smacks you in the face walking around. Definitely not a big fan of that especially when you're with kids. I'm all for it being legal, however as someone else stated the public consumption needs to be regulated in some fashion. 1
WrestlingRasta Posted June 1, 2023 Author Posted June 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, BobDole said: Going from an illegal state to a legal state is always surprising when the smell smacks you in the face walking around. Definitely not a big fan of that especially when you're with kids. I'm all for it being legal, however as someone else stated the public consumption needs to be regulated in some fashion. With so many varieties in delivery now I can see restrictions on combustion/flower in public as a negotiating point...
LJB Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 i hate going to denver and being assaulted by the smell of weed... and it is not like i don't like to party... but... it is very annoying to me...
Bigbrog Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 I personally do not indulge in the whacky tobacky, but I guess I don't have a problem with it being legal. Seems more harmless than drinking for many reason's...don't remember ever reading a headline that said a person high on the devil's lettuce ran head on into a family killing them. Not to mention I think the impact on health is much less compared to booze, especially those people who just do gummies. Legalize it if you ask me.
WrestlingRasta Posted June 1, 2023 Author Posted June 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, LJB said: i hate going to denver and being assaulted by the smell of weed... and it is not like i don't like to party... but... it is very annoying to me... The exit to Manitou Springs also carried some very heavy air
LJB Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bigbrog said: I personally do not indulge in the whacky tobacky, but I guess I don't have a problem with it being legal. Seems more harmless than drinking for many reason's...don't remember ever reading a headline that said a person high on the devil's lettuce ran head on into a family killing them. Not to mention I think the impact on health is much less compared to booze, especially those people who just do gummies. Legalize it if you ask me. alcohol is exponentially more physically harmful to your body than any weed... it is not even comparable... you can die from sudden withdrawal from alcohol... one of two "drugs" that that can even happen from (i forget the other) weed is not physically addictive at all... 1
Bigbrog Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 Just now, LJB said: alcohol is exponentially more physically harmful to your body than any weed... it is not even comparable... you can die from sudden withdrawal from alcohol... one of two "drugs" that that can even happen from (i forget the other) weed is not physically addictive at all... Yeah. I also read you can't OD on weed.
LJB Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Bigbrog said: Yeah. I also read you can't OD on weed. you absolutely can not... but... you 100% might think you are going to die... 1
mspart Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 2 hours ago, LJB said: weed is not physically addictive at all... You might want to rethink that. https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/marijuana-addictive https://www.cdc.gov/marijuana/health-effects/addiction.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/10/well/mind/weed-addiction.html https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/25/health/marijuana-potency-addiction-study-wellness/index.html mspart
mspart Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 I live in a stoner state. Weed has been decriminalized. But public consumption is prohibited by law. Yeah right. Police will not even arrest people for public fentanyl use because the prosecutors will not uphold the law and will not prosecute, and judges give out wimpy sentences if anyone is ever charged and convicted. I'm guessing it is similar wherever weed has been decriminalized. Effectively it is legal and not just in 23 states. How often do we hear of people being arrested for weed use, possession, or selling. I don't, but I live in a stoner state. It doesn't happen around here, Oregon, or California. mspart
LJB Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, mspart said: You might want to rethink that. https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/marijuana-addictive https://www.cdc.gov/marijuana/health-effects/addiction.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/10/well/mind/weed-addiction.html https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/25/health/marijuana-potency-addiction-study-wellness/index.html mspart Weed is not physically addictive…
mspart Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, LJB said: Weed is not physically addictive… You might want to rethink that. https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/marijuana-addictive Marijuana use can lead to the development of problem use, known as a marijuana use disorder, which takes the form of addiction in severe cases. Recent data suggest that 30% of those who use marijuana may have some degree of marijuana use disorder.18 People who begin using marijuana before the age of 18 are four to seven times more likely to develop a marijuana use disorder than adults.19 Marijuana use disorders are often associated with dependence—in which a person feels withdrawal symptoms when not taking the drug. People who use marijuana frequently often report irritability, mood and sleep difficulties, decreased appetite, cravings, restlessness, and/or various forms of physical discomfort that peak within the first week after quitting and last up to 2 weeks.20,21 Marijuana dependence occurs when the brain adapts to large amounts of the drug by reducing production of and sensitivity to its own endocannabinoid neurotransmitters.22,23 https://www.cdc.gov/marijuana/health-effects/addiction.html Some people who use marijuana will develop marijuana use disorder, meaning that they are unable to stop using marijuana even though it’s causing health and social problems in their lives. One study estimated that approximately 3 in 10 people who use marijuana have marijuana use disorder.1 Another study estimated that people who use cannabis have about a 10% likelihood of becoming addicted.2 The risk of developing marijuana use disorder is greater in people who start using marijuana during youth or adolescence and who use marijuana more frequently.3 The following are signs of marijuana use disorder 4: Using more marijuana than intended Trying but failing to quit using marijuana Spending a lot of time using marijuana Craving marijuana Using marijuana even though it causes problems at home, school, or work Continuing to use marijuana despite social or relationship problems. Giving up important activities with friends and family in favor of using marijuana. Using marijuana in high-risk situations, such as while driving a car. Continuing to use marijuana despite physical or psychological problems. Needing to use more marijuana to get the same high. Experiencing withdrawal symptoms when stopping marijuana use. In a study of cannabis research samples over time, the average delta-9 THC (the main form of THC in the cannabis plant) concentration almost doubled, from 9% in 2008 to 17% in 2017.7 Products from dispensaries often offer much higher concentrations than seen in this study. In a study of products available in online dispensaries in 3 states with legal non-medical adult marijuana use, the average THC concentration was 22%, with a range of 0% to 45%.8 https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/25/health/marijuana-potency-addiction-study-wellness/index.html Higher concentrations of tetrahydrocannabinol or THC – the part of the marijuana plant that makes you high – are causing more people to become addicted in many parts of the world, a new review of studies found. Compared with people who use lower-potency products (typically 5 to 10 milligrams per gram of THC), those who use higher-potency cannabis are more likely to experience addiction and mental health outcomes, according to the study published Monday in the journal Lancet Psychiatry. Scientists have established a “standard THC unit” of 5 milligrams of THC for research. That amount is said to produce a mild intoxication for nonregular users. “One of the highest quality studies included in our publication found that use of high potency cannabis, compared to low potency cannabis, was linked to a four-fold increased risk of addiction,” said study coauthor Tom Freeman, a senior lecturer in the department of psychology and director of the addiction and mental health group at the University of Bath in the United Kingdom, in an email. In the United States, about 3 in 10 people who use marijuana have cannabis use disorder, the medical term for marijuana addiction, according to the US Centers for Disease and Prevention. mspart
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