Spencer Lee is the GOAT (on top)

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Spencer Lee, in his prime, is the GOAT on top.  No one else could turn guys with such ease and frequency as Spencer when he was at his best.  He may have fewer championships than Sanderson, Dake, Yianni and Stieber and more losses than a bunch of guys, but he is truly the GOAT when it comes to tilting guys on top.

[flyingcement]

He may be the goat, but my favorite was Ethan Lizak

[PortaJohn]

All these years I thought Dan Hodge was , is, and will be the GOAT on top

[ionel]

16 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Spencer Lee, in his prime, is the GOAT on top.  No one else could turn guys with such ease and frequency as Spencer when he was at his best.  He may have fewer championships than Sanderson, Dake, Yianni and Stieber and more losses than a bunch of guys, but he is truly the GOAT when it comes to tilting guys on top.

Mike Sheets would like a word! 

[11986]

2 minutes ago, ionel said:

Mike Sheets would like a word! 

Mean Gene the Pinning Machine would too!

[BigRedFan]

23 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Spencer Lee, in his prime, is the GOAT on top.  No one else could turn guys with such ease and frequency as Spencer when he was at his best.  He may have fewer championships than Sanderson, Dake, Yianni and Stieber and more losses than a bunch of guys, but he is truly the GOAT when it comes to tilting guys on top.

Ben Darmstadt had 18 pins his freshman year.  Guys stopped choosing bottom against him.

[Frank Scrivener]

17 minutes ago, ionel said:

Mike Sheets would like a word! 

I was scrolling to see if he was mentioned yet. Lee may be a better turner, but Sheets was just plain mean about riding.  He let you know you were being ridden. 

[jackwebster]

Fleeger is the GOAT on top in folkstyle (via near wrist / far claw ... some mutant version of the Blair ride. (I don't want to hear about Schalles or Ruth or any other cradle people.)).

Satiev is the GOAT on top in freestyle (via West Point ... I wonder what he called it)

John Smith is the American GOAT on top (via rollin mfers like logs).

Edited March 24, 2023 by jackwebster

[ionel]

13 minutes ago, Frank Scrivener said:

I was scrolling to see if he was mentioned yet. Lee may be a better turner, but Sheets was just plain mean about riding.  He let you know you were being ridden. 

and I doubt anyone scored more points on top than Sheets.  

[jackwebster]

He is not even the best with the cross-wrist tilt (pioneered by Chuck Toler); that would be Peppelman.

 

Edited March 24, 2023 by jackwebster

[JVStateChamp]

1 minute ago, jackwebster said:

He is not even the best with the cross-wrist tilt; that would be Peppelman.

I would say the level of competition that Lee used his cross wrist tilt on was better than any of the Pepplemans accomplished combined.

[jackwebster]

6 minutes ago, JVStateChamp said:

I would say the level of competition that Lee used his cross wrist tilt on was better than any of the Pepplemans accomplished combined.

No doubt. I'm just over the Lee-talk. More outlandish claims to follow.

[Twooooo]

Dude, how many more "Lee" posts are you going to make?  Give it a rest.

[11986]

29 minutes ago, jackwebster said:

He is not even the best with the cross-wrist tilt (pioneered by Chuck Toler); that would be Peppelman.

 

Chuck Toler, there's a name I haven't heard in a while. Had a HS team mate who wrestled him a few times in off season tournaments.  

[jackwebster]

1 minute ago, 11986 said:

Chuck Toler, there's a name I haven't heard in a while. Had a HS team mate who wrestled him a few times in off season tournaments.  

Unsung innovator.  The cross-wrist tilt is a now ubiquitous technique, and Toler invented it. 

[CHROMEBIRD]

Lizak was good from top, but he mostly rode and stalled. Zain put a hurting on his opponents from top, but didn't always turn them. Lee rode, wrecked, turned, and pinned opponents from top so often and so efficiently it would make Gene Mills blush. Nobody wanted to be underneath Spencer.

[LJB]

[Pinnacle]

Dan Hodge and Wade Schalles 

They actually pinned guys

 

 

 

Edited March 25, 2023 by Pinnacle

[AOCStallsLikeAMug]

You should ask your mother about my top game, it might make you change your mind 

[jackwebster]

10 hours ago, AOCStallsLikeAMug said:

You should ask your mother about my top game, it might make you change your mind 

Never gets old. Cheers.

[AgaveMaria]

On 3/24/2023 at 1:21 PM, Twooooo said:

Dude, how many more "Lee" posts are you going to make?  Give it a rest.

You mean you aren't waiting breathless until "what is Lee's favorite type of Apple"?

[GreatWhiteNorth]

On 3/24/2023 at 7:49 PM, Pinnacle said:

Dan Hodge and Wade Schalles 

They actually pinned guys

I'd put Dylan Ness ahead of Lee.

Edited March 26, 2023 by GreatWhiteNorth

[Gus]

4 minutes ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

I'd put Dylan Ness ahead of Lee.

Well that’s just silly.

[GreatWhiteNorth]

30 minutes ago, Gus said:

Well that’s just silly.

Ahem... like I said Jayson Ness. 

[flyingcement]

Ciasulli was tough on top