nhs67 Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 7:01 PM, flyingcement said: Expand Arizona State needs a 165lber, I hear. 2 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
Gus Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) On 3/27/2023 at 7:17 PM, nhs67 said: Arizona State needs a 165lber, I hear. Expand Izzak will have 1 year left, correct? Edited March 27, 2023 by Gus
nhs67 Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 7:19 PM, Gus said: Izzak will have 1 year left, correct? Expand Yes. I believe Negron has a year or two left as well. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
SunDevil Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 7:17 PM, nhs67 said: Arizona State needs a 165lber, I hear. Expand I was thinking the same thing. California kid. Makes sense. 1
Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan Posted March 27, 2023 Author Posted March 27, 2023 It’s crazy to see these AAs from smaller programs entering into the portal. Wish them the best though!
stealyphil223 Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 9:20 PM, Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan said: It’s crazy to see these AAs from smaller programs entering into the portal. Wish them the best though! Expand Get that AA status and the phone starts ringing, the deals start coming in and money talks.
SunDevil Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 7:23 PM, nhs67 said: Yes. I believe Negron has a year or two left as well. Expand I don’t think Negron used a red shirt year. I think he has exhausted eligibility.
Idaho Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 9:23 PM, stealyphil223 said: Get that AA status and the phone starts ringing, the deals start coming in and money talks. Expand Sometimes. Depends on if the school has the graduate program they want. Some guys do follow the money but there are still some who have to transfer because their school does not offer the masters program. Sponsored by INTERMAT
Tripnsweep Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 9:26 PM, SunDevil said: I don’t think Negron used a red shirt year. I think he has exhausted eligibility. Expand
SunDevil Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 2:28 AM, Tripnsweep said: Expand He’s been in college 5 years. Not sure if you follow ASU wrestling much, but if you do, you should know their coverage of the sport is terrible.
RYou Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 9:23 PM, stealyphil223 said: Get that AA status and the phone starts ringing, the deals start coming in and money talks. Expand Technically, a coach making the first call would constitute tampering and not sit well with the NCAA godfathers. The lid needs to enter the portal first.
Idaho Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 11:25 AM, RYou said: Technically, a coach making the first call would constitute tampering and not sit well with the NCAA godfathers. The lid needs to enter the portal first. Expand This is true that coaches making calls before they land in the portal is a violation…. However I’m not convinced it doesn’t sit well with the ncaa. Remember last off season? Sponsored by INTERMAT
82bordeaux Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 12:51 PM, Idaho said: This is true that coaches making calls before they land in the portal is a violation…. However I’m not convinced it doesn’t sit well with the ncaa. Remember last off season? Expand Parents checking on other AA's health is not a violation. It is a considerate courtesy call.
NearFall Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) On 3/27/2023 at 9:26 PM, SunDevil said: I don’t think Negron used a red shirt year. I think he has exhausted eligibility. Expand Sorry but I think that's incorrect. In 2019 the only wrestling Negron did was at the Hokie Open, the Wolfpack Open, the Reno T.O.C. and the Appalachian Open. And he was wrestling for the Wolfpack Wrestling Club at that time. He did the same in 2020 - wrestling in only Open tournaments and as a member of the Wolfpack Wrestling Club so I suppose either of those two years could be considered a RS year for him. Plus he didn't wrestle at all during the 2021 season. He didn't start wrestling in dual matches until 2022 with Penn State. So he does have at least one more year of eligibility remaining possibly two (if he missed the 2021 season due to injury). Also since he wrestled for three seasons (2019-2020-2021) as a member of the Wolfpack Wrestling Club I'm not even sure if that counts against his NCAA "clock". But IF Arizona State were to get Olejnik from the TP and Negron stayed at ASU the WrestleStat wrestler comparison tool shows Olejnik beating Negron by MD (13-2) - for whatever that is worth. Edited March 28, 2023 by NearFall Addition
BobDole Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 1:50 PM, NearFall said: Sorry but I think that's incorrect. In 2019 the only wrestling Negron did was at the Hokie Open, the Wolfpack Open, the Reno T.O.C. and the Appalachian Open. And he was wrestling for the Wolfpack Wrestling Club at that time. He did the same in 2020 - wrestling in only Open tournaments and as a member of the Wolfpack Wrestling Club so I suppose either of those two years could be considered a RS year for him. Plus he didn't wrestle at all during the 2021 season. He didn't start wrestling in dual matches until 2022 with Penn State. So he does have at least one more year of eligibility remaining possibly two (if he missed the 2021 season due to injury). Also since he wrestled for three seasons (2019-2020-2021) as a member of the Wolfpack Wrestling Club I'm not even sure if that counts against his NCAA "clock". But IF Arizona State were to get Olejnik from the TP and Negron stayed at ASU the WrestleStat wrestler comparison tool shows Olejnik beating Negron by MD (13-2) - for whatever that is worth. Expand NCAA DI clock starts once you enroll as a full-time student. 2019- Redshirt 2020- Year 1 used 2021- Free year 2022- Year 2 used 2023- Year 3 used Based off an educated guess he likely has one more year left, unless as you stated he gets an injury year.
BobDole Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 As a note please be advised @Husker_Du has explicitly stated everyone used their one free transfer this year to this board. If you do transfer to another board we will do everything possible to block the transfer and not sign the paperwork. 4 7
ionel Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 2:02 PM, BobDole said: As a note please be advised @Husker_Du has explicitly stated everyone used their one free transfer this year to this board. If you do transfer to another board we will do everything possible to block the transfer and not sign the paperwork. Expand good ole BonoBob 2 .
SunDevil Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 1:50 PM, NearFall said: Sorry but I think that's incorrect. In 2019 the only wrestling Negron did was at the Hokie Open, the Wolfpack Open, the Reno T.O.C. and the Appalachian Open. And he was wrestling for the Wolfpack Wrestling Club at that time. He did the same in 2020 - wrestling in only Open tournaments and as a member of the Wolfpack Wrestling Club so I suppose either of those two years could be considered a RS year for him. Plus he didn't wrestle at all during the 2021 season. He didn't start wrestling in dual matches until 2022 with Penn State. So he does have at least one more year of eligibility remaining possibly two (if he missed the 2021 season due to injury). Also since he wrestled for three seasons (2019-2020-2021) as a member of the Wolfpack Wrestling Club I'm not even sure if that counts against his NCAA "clock". But IF Arizona State were to get Olejnik from the TP and Negron stayed at ASU the WrestleStat wrestler comparison tool shows Olejnik beating Negron by MD (13-2) - for whatever that is worth. Expand https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/7848721-top-targets-still-in-the-transfer-portal I will do the research for you. Wrestle stat also shows he did not use a redshirt. All this could also be as wrong as the info I got last year.
nhs67 Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 2:01 PM, BobDole said: NCAA DI clock starts once you enroll as a full-time student. 2019- Redshirt 2020- Year 1 used 2021- Free year 2022- Year 2 used 2023- Year 3 used Based off an educated guess he likely has one more year left, unless as you stated he gets an injury year. Expand On 3/28/2023 at 2:22 PM, SunDevil said: https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/7848721-top-targets-still-in-the-transfer-portal I will do the research for you. Wrestle stat also shows he did not use a redshirt. All this could also be as wrong as the info I got last year. Expand He could likely use one as a redshirt and one as a medical - if there were any lingering issues in either 2019 or 2020 right? That means that he could have 'up to' two (2) years left right? Recruiting over him might not sit well with Uncle Tony. That guy gives me 'free money' vibes whenever I watch him. Meaning he seems like a guy who is willing to pay his nephew's way and then some. Not booster money, but the kind where if he strikes up a convo with one of the other kids and he likes the convo he'll just slip off one of his $40k rolex watches, hand it to him, and say 'Fuhgeddaboudit' while walking away with an awkward eyelid twitch while he makes direct eye contact with the samen 'said' kid. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
SunDevil Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) On 3/28/2023 at 2:40 PM, nhs67 said: He could likely use one as a redshirt and one as a medical - if there were any lingering issues in either 2019 or 2020 right? That means that he could have 'up to' two (2) years left right? Recruiting over him might not sit well with Uncle Tony. That guy gives me 'free money' vibes whenever I watch him. Meaning he seems like a guy who is willing to pay his nephew's way and then some. Not booster money, but the kind where if he strikes up a convo with one of the other kids and he likes the convo he'll just slip off one of his $40k rolex watches, hand it to him, and say 'Fuhgeddaboudit' while walking away with an awkward eyelid twitch while he makes direct eye contact with the samen 'said' kid. Expand Uncle Tony is quite the character. That is far out of my league of knowledge. You can go back 5 years and say I want to use a redshirt? Seems crazy but I have no clue. Edited March 28, 2023 by SunDevil
nhs67 Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 2:56 PM, SunDevil said: Uncle Tony is quite the character. That is far out of my league of knowledge. You can go back 5 years and say I want to use a redshirt? Seems crazy but I have no clue. Expand I am not sure you ever have to state you're using it - if you met the requisites you can apply it aptly. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
Idaho Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) On 3/28/2023 at 1:05 PM, 82bordeaux said: Parents checking on other AA's health is not a violation. It is a considerate courtesy call. Expand Yep, that's all they were. Then there were coaches calling out other coaches for direct violations.... in either case the NCAA doesn't seem to care. Edited March 28, 2023 by Idaho Sponsored by INTERMAT
BobDole Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 2:40 PM, nhs67 said: He could likely use one as a redshirt and one as a medical - if there were any lingering issues in either 2019 or 2020 right? That means that he could have 'up to' two (2) years left right? Expand You are correct if they apply for a medical. On 3/28/2023 at 2:56 PM, SunDevil said: Uncle Tony is quite the character. That is far out of my league of knowledge. You can go back 5 years and say I want to use a redshirt? Seems crazy but I have no clue. Expand On 3/28/2023 at 3:14 PM, nhs67 said: I am not sure you ever have to state you're using it - if you met the requisites you can apply it aptly. Expand Redshirts are weird in that they are only applied AFTER the season. Little Robert Dole tells his coach he's redshirtting which really means nothing unless he completes the season without wrestling as an attached wrestler. Looking at Negron on WrestleStat it would appear he wrestled unattached at those events his first couple years. That would make one of them a redshirt year if he so chooses. As far as logistics on how they apply it or when, that is out of my league. Without intimate details he will have 0-2 years of eligibility left. 1
nhs67 Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 4:51 PM, Idaho said: Yep, that's all they were. Then there were coaches calling out other coaches for direct violations.... in either case the NCAA doesn't seem to care. Expand Burden of proof... innocent until said proof of burden is established with no reasonable doubt. US Justice System, mate - yeah? "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
Idaho Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 6:09 PM, nhs67 said: Burden of proof... innocent until said proof of burden is established with no reasonable doubt. US Justice System, mate - yeah? Expand Bentley and Milner's proof wasn't enough? By the way we aren't dealing with the US Justice System.... it's the NCAA.... and at this point I am not sure which is worse. You are free to think that the NCAA cares about tampering in wrestling. Sponsored by INTERMAT
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