Missouri vs Iowa State

[flyingcement]

125: Noah Surtin pin Caleb Fuessley 5-0

133: Zach Redding dec Connor Brown 5-3

141: Casey Swiderski dec Allan Hart 5-6

149: Paniro Johnson dec Brock Mauller 5-9

157: Jarrett Jacques dec Jason Kraisser 8-9

165: Keegan O'Toole dec David Carr 11-9

174: Peyton Mocco dec MJ Gaitan 14-9

184: Marcus Coleman major Colton Hawks 14-13

197: Yonger Bastida dec Rocky Elam 14-16

285: Zach Elam dec Sam Schuyler 17-16 Mizzou

[Gus]

5 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

125: Noah Surtin pin Caleb Fuessley 5-0

133: Zach Redding dec Connor Brown 5-3

141: Casey Swiderski dec Allan Hart 5-6

149: Paniro Johnson dec Brock Mauller 5-9

157: Jarrett Jacques dec Jason Kraisser 8-9

165: Keegan O'Toole dec David Carr 11-9

174: Peyton Mocco dec MJ Gaitan 14-9

184: Marcus Coleman major Colton Hawks 14-13

197: Yonger Bastida dec Rocky Elam 14-16

285: Zach Elam dec Sam Schuyler 17-16 Mizzou

Surtin with an over the top celebration after his pin gets deducted a team point?

[flyingcement]

6 minutes ago, Gus said:

Surtin with an over the top celebration after his pin gets deducted a team point?

I imagine he will walk up to Dresser and slap him in the face

[MizzouFan01]

O’Toole and Carr, worth the admission price alone. Should be a great match. 

[flyingcement]

2 minutes ago, MizzouFan01 said:

O’Toole and Carr, worth the admission price alone. Should be a great match. 

I've been burnt so many times hoping for these type matchups.  Watch them start at 174 and if the match is decided by the last match, we could see a forfeit.  Unfortunate

[KCMO2]

No reason for O'Toole and Carr not to wrestle.  Win or lose, their potential championship match at the Big 12's should determine the 1 seed for natties.

[nhs67]

I don't expect Carr-O'Toole, honestly.

[Tigerfan]

Contrary to popular opinion, I think Carr is likely to duck. His best chance is the first match, before O’Toole can adjust his game plan, and that would be Big12 finals for #1 seed at Nationals. If he loses, he still likely gets a 3 seed. But 2 losses might slide him to 4th seed. Plus Dresser is a master gamer, having invented the teammate open to create false qualifiers.  

[flyingcement]

22 minutes ago, Tigerfan said:

Contrary to popular opinion, I think Carr is likely to duck. His best chance is the first match, before O’Toole can adjust his game plan, and that would be Big12 finals for #1 seed at Nationals. If he loses, he still likely gets a 3 seed. But 2 losses might slide him to 4th seed. Plus Dresser is a master gamer, having invented the teammate open to create false qualifiers.  

How would he craft the messaging around the decision after hyping the match on Twitter? 

[Tigerfan]

If the dual is out of reach, BIG IF, he could plead nagging injuries/wanting completely healthy for post season. Why risk aggravating little injuries, which they almost all have at this point, in a meaningless dual so close to post season?  Something like that. If Carr can win the dual for ISU with a win, a duck is unlikely, but still possible. 

[MizzouFan01]

5 hours ago, Tigerfan said:

Contrary to popular opinion, I think Carr is likely to duck. His best chance is the first match, before O’Toole can adjust his game plan, and that would be Big12 finals for #1 seed at Nationals. If he loses, he still likely gets a 3 seed. But 2 losses might slide him to 4th seed. Plus Dresser is a master gamer, having invented the teammate open to create false qualifiers.  

So I’n your scenario, either KOT or Carr would slide to the 3 seed with two losses? I don’t see it. Losing as the #1 or 2 vs the other even twice shouldn’t hurt that badly. If you’re suggesting one of the other conference champs move ahead of either of them, I’m not big on that either. Griffin, Amine or whoever else as a champ doesn’t deserve the #2 seed even if KOT or Carr have two losses. I get it may happen and you’re probably right, but Carr for example, two losses to KOT still should be ahead of one loss conference champ Griffith. 

Edited February 15, 2023 by MizzouFan01

[Gus]

8 hours ago, MizzouFan01 said:

So I’n your scenario, either KOT or Carr would slide to the 3 seed with two losses? I don’t see it. Losing as the #1 or 2 vs the other even twice shouldn’t hurt that badly. If you’re suggesting one of the other conference champs move ahead of either of them, I’m not big on that either. Griffin, Amine or whoever else as a champ doesn’t deserve the #2 seed even if KOT or Carr have two losses. I get it may happen and you’re probably right, but Carr for example, two losses to KOT still should be ahead of one loss conference champ Griffith. 

And does it really matter as long as they don't drop to the 4 seed?

[TexRef]

14 hours ago, Tigerfan said:

Contrary to popular opinion, I think Carr is likely to duck. His best chance is the first match, before O’Toole can adjust his game plan, and that would be Big12 finals for #1 seed at Nationals. If he loses, he still likely gets a 3 seed. But 2 losses might slide him to 4th seed. Plus Dresser is a master gamer, having invented the teammate open to create false qualifiers.  

That was bizarre 

[Show_Me]

21 hours ago, Tigerfan said:

Plus Dresser is a master gamer, having invented the teammate open to create false qualifiers.  

Yea, I was there for that dual when ISU opted to keep most of their starters home for the “Dresser Open”.

Heading to the Dual now and really hoping all these matches happen.  A big ask I know.

[CycloneFan97]

 

Edited February 15, 2023 by CycloneFan97

[flyingcement]

6 minutes ago, CycloneFan97 said:

 

Oh no

[ionel]

1 hour ago, flyingcement said:

Oh no

Prob want to make 165 premiere match, don't think they'd do this if thought any duck'n was gonna happen.  

[MizzouFan01]

18 minutes ago, ionel said:

Prob want to make 165 premiere match, don't think they'd do this if thought any duck'n was gonna happen.  

Nah Coach Smith said earlier today that any fans worried the match won’t happen shouldn’t worry, it’s going to happen he said. 

[Crotalus]

Anybody covering play-by-play for those of us without flo? 

Mocco wins 7-5 over unranked opponent. Not exactly inspiring. 

[Crotalus]

Hawks loses 4-2 in what was one of the best bonus possibilities for ISU.

Elam vs Bastitda is likely the second best match of the night. 

[Wrestleknownothing]

Elam with the take down late in the first and the ride out to lead 2-0 with 53 secs of RT

 Elam rides hard in the second and gets a cradle but can't hold on to it. Settles for the ride out 2:53 RT.

Elam quick escape to start third.  Bastida pressing the pace, but nothing. Elam gets a stall warning with about 25 secs to go. And it ends 4-0 Elam.

Edited February 16, 2023 by Wrestleknownothing

[Crotalus]

6 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Elam with the take down late in the first and the ride out to lead 2-0 with 53 secs of RT

 Elam rides hard in the second and gets a cradle but can't hold on to it. Settles for the ride out 2:53 RT.

Elam quick escape to start third.  Bastida pressing the pace, but nothing. Elam gets a stall warning with about 25 secs to go. And it ends 4-0 Elam.

Thank you very much. Mizzou’s twitter is letting me down. 

[Wrestleknownothing]

285

Schuyler throws Elam to his back for 2, quick escape. 2-1. Schuyler with a quick TD, escape. 4-2. End of first.

Elam out quick. 4-3. Schulyer in deep, but can't finish. 1 min to go. Elam with maybe one shot so far. Second ends 4-3.

Elam riding tough. Looks for the cradle, but instead it lets Schuyler out. 5-3. Elam needs to get active. Elam with a tired single leg attempt after upper body doesn't work. Schuyler stall. Now dancing as Elam not too threatening. 5-3 final to Schuyler.

Edited February 16, 2023 by Wrestleknownothing

[Threadkilla]

Nate Carr is the worst color commentator in wrestling.   I thought it was reserved for Ironside but Carr is much worse.   He doesn't add commentary just screams at the wrestlers and Ref.

[Crotalus]

Big Elam is a round of 12 guy at best. Just hasn't been able to improve much from year to year.