WNBA ruling

[Scouts Honor]

sucks to suck

[Offthemat]

35 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

what if i refuse to serve vikings?

Do you serve them on a stick or on the half-shell?

[Scouts Honor]

ew

neither

nasty crap there...

too fatty i think 

[Offthemat]

50 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

lol.

but you do..

you support hamas

I read an article yesterday by a fellow who’s pretty well informed on genocide.  He gave the ICC’s definition and showed how, based on international investigations of Gaza, that it’s Hamas, not israel, that has committed genocide.  Some quick points;  determining genocide is based on intent.  Intent is the determining factor.  The number killed is not a factor, at all.  Killing millions in war, combatant and noncombatant, is not necessarily genocide.  Killing even a few, solely because of who they are, as Hamas has done, is genocide.  
 

Maybe others would be interested in reading it:

Debunking the Lie of the Century

Investigative journalist and bestselling author Gerald Posner offers a primer to debunk the "genocide" libel against Israel.

 

https://jewishjournal.com/commentary/opinion/391259/genocide-for-dummies/

 

 

What the Word Actually Means

Raphael Lemkin, the Polish Jewish lawyer who coined the term in 1944 after losing dozens of relatives in the Holocaust, built it as a prosecutor’s tool: precise, bounded, demanding. The word itself announced its purpose — genos, the Greek for tribe or race, fused with caedere, the Latin for killing. He would not recognize what has happened to it. Four years later, the UN adopted the Genocide Convention — and from the start, its drafters drew a clear boundary. The original Secretariat Draft — UN Doc. E/447, 1947 — explicitly noted that heavy civilian losses in war “do not as a rule constitute genocide.” That was the domain of the laws of war. The Genocide Convention addressed something different: the intentional destruction of a group as such.

Article II is the whole ballgame — one sentence that has been parsed in courtrooms for seventy years. Genocide means any of five acts — killing members of a group, causing serious bodily or mental harm, inflicting conditions of life calculated to destroy the group, preventing births, forcibly transferring children — committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such.

Everything hinges on those last words. Lawyers call it dolus specialis — special intent. The bottom line is that it is not enough to kill a great many people from one group. It is not enough to kill them carelessly, disproportionately, or unlawfully. You must kill them because of what they are, with the object of erasing the group.

And there is a second requirement people skip past, which is where nearly every public argument about Gaza goes off the rails. When intent is inferred from a pattern of conduct rather than proven by an order or a plan, the International Court of Justice has held — in Bosnia v. Serbia in 2007 and Croatia v. Serbia in 2015 — that the inference of genocidal intent must be the only reasonable inference available.

Not the most emotionally satisfying one. Not the one a majority prefers. The only one.

If another reasonable explanation for the pattern exists, the charge fails. That is not an Israeli talking point. It is black-letter international law, and it exists for a reason: to keep the gravest crime in the legal canon from collapsing into a synonym for “war I find abhorrent.”

 

[Scouts Honor]

how dare you present the red viking with facts

this will just further radicalize him and he will self immolate

[JimmySpeaks]

4 hours ago, red viking said:

This whole thing is stupid. Is WNBA a government entity? 

If not, here's a crazy idea. Let them decide for themselves who plays in their league. 

I know, what a crazy idea. Some actual freedom instead of winger control over every facet of our society. 

What is a woman?  It’s called the Women’s National basketball Association for a reason.  

Edited August 22 by JimmySpeaks

[JimmySpeaks]

3 hours ago, red viking said:

You wingers are control freaks. You literally want to control everything everybody does. 

Why do u care do much how they define "woman" for the purpose of eligibility? 

Control freaks?   DEI IS CONTROLLING whom you hire.  You’re not for controlling who gets hired but not this???   Wow you’re dumb. 

Edited August 22 by JimmySpeaks

[1032004]

22 hours ago, Offthemat said:

I read an article yesterday by a fellow who’s pretty well informed on genocide.  He gave the ICC’s definition and showed how, based on international investigations of Gaza, that it’s Hamas, not israel, that has committed genocide.  Some quick points;  determining genocide is based on intent.  Intent is the determining factor.  The number killed is not a factor, at all.  Killing millions in war, combatant and noncombatant, is not necessarily genocide.  Killing even a few, solely because of who they are, as Hamas has done, is genocide.  
 

Maybe others would be interested in reading it:

Debunking the Lie of the Century

Investigative journalist and bestselling author Gerald Posner offers a primer to debunk the "genocide" libel against Israel.

 

https://jewishjournal.com/commentary/opinion/391259/genocide-for-dummies/

 

 

What the Word Actually Means

Raphael Lemkin, the Polish Jewish lawyer who coined the term in 1944 after losing dozens of relatives in the Holocaust, built it as a prosecutor’s tool: precise, bounded, demanding. The word itself announced its purpose — genos, the Greek for tribe or race, fused with caedere, the Latin for killing. He would not recognize what has happened to it. Four years later, the UN adopted the Genocide Convention — and from the start, its drafters drew a clear boundary. The original Secretariat Draft — UN Doc. E/447, 1947 — explicitly noted that heavy civilian losses in war “do not as a rule constitute genocide.” That was the domain of the laws of war. The Genocide Convention addressed something different: the intentional destruction of a group as such.

Article II is the whole ballgame — one sentence that has been parsed in courtrooms for seventy years. Genocide means any of five acts — killing members of a group, causing serious bodily or mental harm, inflicting conditions of life calculated to destroy the group, preventing births, forcibly transferring children — committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such.

Everything hinges on those last words. Lawyers call it dolus specialis — special intent. The bottom line is that it is not enough to kill a great many people from one group. It is not enough to kill them carelessly, disproportionately, or unlawfully. You must kill them because of what they are, with the object of erasing the group.

And there is a second requirement people skip past, which is where nearly every public argument about Gaza goes off the rails. When intent is inferred from a pattern of conduct rather than proven by an order or a plan, the International Court of Justice has held — in Bosnia v. Serbia in 2007 and Croatia v. Serbia in 2015 — that the inference of genocidal intent must be the only reasonable inference available.

Not the most emotionally satisfying one. Not the one a majority prefers. The only one.

If another reasonable explanation for the pattern exists, the charge fails. That is not an Israeli talking point. It is black-letter international law, and it exists for a reason: to keep the gravest crime in the legal canon from collapsing into a synonym for “war I find abhorrent.”

 

Can you share where in this article it says Hamas is the one committing genocide?  I started reading it, but it was extremely biased and overly wordy, so mostly skimmed the second half, but I don’t see that claim made.  Maybe I missed it, but I think you might be lying again.

[Caveira]

8 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Can you share where in this article it says Hamas is the one committing genocide?  I started reading it, but it was extremely biased and overly wordy, so mostly skimmed the second half, but I don’t see that claim made.  Maybe I missed it, but I think you might be lying again.

The most widely condemned elements of the 1988 Hamas Covenant (Charter) are its explicit calls for the obliteration of Israel and the jews, its categorization of peace initiatives as unacceptable, and its direct incitement to violence against Jewish people worldwide.

sounds tots not like mean genocide to me b

Edited August 23 by Caveira

[Scouts Honor]

22 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Can you share where in this article it says Hamas is the one committing genocide?  I started reading it, but it was extremely biased and overly wordy, so mostly skimmed the second half, but I don’t see that claim made.  Maybe I missed it, but I think you might be lying again.

communists always kill their own, for purification 

[Scouts Honor]

oh i see, you are saying that hamas is not genociding isreal.

i would agree with that, but 

they aren't genociding b/c they dont want to,

it's b/c they aren't capable.

[Scouts Honor]

 

[mspart]

On 8/22/2026 at 6:34 PM, 1032004 said:

Can you share where in this article it says Hamas is the one committing genocide?  I started reading it, but it was extremely biased and overly wordy, so mostly skimmed the second half, but I don’t see that claim made.  Maybe I missed it, but I think you might be lying again.

Genocide requires intent to destroy a protected group as such — national, ethnic, racial, religious. Not a government or army or a political movement. That is why the Khmer Rouge, who killed a quarter of Cambodia, were convicted of genocide only as to the Cham and the Vietnamese. So, the threshold question in Gaza is whether the belligerent Israel is fighting is Hamas or the Palestinian people. Most of Israel’s own conduct supports the former inference.

Start with the most obvious fact, which is so obvious that it disappears. Israel negotiates with Hamas—repeatedly, publicly, through Qatari and Egyptian mediators—over ceasefires and hostage exchanges and the return of bodies. There is a ceasefire in force as I write this. Nobody negotiates a truce with a people it intends to erase, because the point of erasure is that there will be no one left to negotiate with. The Wehrmacht did not broker prisoner exchanges with the Jews of Warsaw. The Interahamwe did not sign agreements with the Tutsi. In every case on the recognized list, the perpetrator’s relationship with the victim group was total and one-directional. Here it is bilateral, mediated, and ongoing.

I can only find arguments why Israel is not committing genocide.   I do not see where it says Hamas is committing genocide.  Granted, I did not look very very carefully, I skimmed through it looking for key words and did not find them.   

mspart

 

[JimmySpeaks]

Is @red viking still supporting the government staying out of whom a business has to hire??  I’m so glad he rejects DEI. 

[mspart]

I can just hear the folks running the WNBA:

We are the WNBA,  the Women's National Basketball Association.   We are losing money every year.   We have marquee players who we will not name and will not support, use as advertisements, use to sell seats and merchandise because we have standards and are not allowed to promote white straight people.   We call them people because all people are welcome in our ranks if they call themselves a woman.   What a woman is is something we cannot say because we are not biologists.   We are the WNBA, the Women's National Basketball Association.   We don't know what we are doing and it shows because we lose money every year and complain that no one takes us seriously.    We are the WNBA, the Women's National Basketball Association. We pay our players diddly squat and even at that, we cannot make money.   We think boys playing basketball with girls is a good thing.    We are the WNBA, the Women's National Basketball Association.  We have no men in our league but we are not biologists so we can't define what a man is.    We are the WNBA, the Women's National Basketball Association. We welcome all women of all stripes to come play for us.    We are the WNBA, the Women's National Basketball Association.  We stand with Women, whatever that means.  

mspart

[red viking]

5 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Is @red viking still supporting the government staying out of whom a business has to hire??  I’m so glad he rejects DEI. 

Yes. And you're so dumb that u dont know what DEI is. Its not about setting quotas for hiring minorities u moron. At least typically. 

[red viking]

Just now, mspart said:

I can just hear the folks running the WNBA:

We are the WNBA,  the Women's National Basketball Association.   We are losing money every year.   We have marquee players who we will not name and will not support, use as advertisements, use to sell seats and merchandise because we have standards and are not allowed to promote white straight people.   We call them people because all people are welcome in our ranks if they call themselves a woman.   What a woman is is something we cannot say because we are not biologists.   We are the WNBA, the Women's National Basketball Association.   We don't know what we are doing and it shows because we lose money every year and complain that no one takes us seriously.    We are the WNBA, the Women's National Basketball Association. We pay our players diddly squat and even at that, we cannot make money.   We think boys playing basketball with girls is a good thing.    We are the WNBA, the Women's National Basketball Association.  We have no men in our league but we are not biologists so we can't define what a man is.    We are the WNBA, the Women's National Basketball Association. We welcome all women of all stripes to come play for us.    We are the WNBA, the Women's National Basketball Association.  We stand with Women, whatever that means.  

mspart

Let them do it. Let theem run their business and the wingers can stop putting their grubby hands in every decision that people and businesses make. Founding fathers would be disgusted by you sickos  

[JimmySpeaks]

2 minutes ago, red viking said:

Yes. And you're so dumb that u dont know what DEI is. Its not about setting quotas for hiring minorities u moron. At least typically. 

You’re mid fifties memory has failed you AGAIN. we’ve discussed this before and you ran away knowing that DEI is 115% racism. 

[JimmySpeaks]

6 minutes ago, red viking said:

Yes. And you're so dumb that u dont know what DEI is. Its not about setting quotas for hiring minorities u moron. At least typically. 

Why doesn’t the nba and nfl  replicate the population base?  I’ll wait 

Edited August 24 by JimmySpeaks

[Offthemat]

1 hour ago, mspart said:

Genocide requires intent to destroy a protected group as such — national, ethnic, racial, religious. Not a government or army or a political movement. That is why the Khmer Rouge, who killed a quarter of Cambodia, were convicted of genocide only as to the Cham and the Vietnamese. So, the threshold question in Gaza is whether the belligerent Israel is fighting is Hamas or the Palestinian people. Most of Israel’s own conduct supports the former inference.

Start with the most obvious fact, which is so obvious that it disappears. Israel negotiates with Hamas—repeatedly, publicly, through Qatari and Egyptian mediators—over ceasefires and hostage exchanges and the return of bodies. There is a ceasefire in force as I write this. Nobody negotiates a truce with a people it intends to erase, because the point of erasure is that there will be no one left to negotiate with. The Wehrmacht did not broker prisoner exchanges with the Jews of Warsaw. The Interahamwe did not sign agreements with the Tutsi. In every case on the recognized list, the perpetrator’s relationship with the victim group was total and one-directional. Here it is bilateral, mediated, and ongoing.

I can only find arguments why Israel is not committing genocide.   I do not see where it says Hamas is committing genocide.  Granted, I did not look very very carefully, I skimmed through it looking for key words and did not find them.   

mspart

 

You did a fine job of reading what Posner said, now if you do as well reading what I said, you’ll understand why I’m so surprised to see you pulled into this. 

[mspart]

17 minutes ago, red viking said:

Let them do it. Let theem run their business and the wingers can stop putting their grubby hands in every decision that people and businesses make. Founding fathers would be disgusted by you sickos  

The founding fathers would be sickened by what society has become in a short 250 years.  

mspart

[red viking]

13 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Why doesn’t the nba and nfl  replicate the population base?  I’ll wait 

Because they dont have racial quotas u idiot. 

[red viking]

Just now, mspart said:

The founding fathers would be sickened by what society has become in a short 250 years.  

mspart

They wouid be disgusted by u trying to dictate how an entertainment company runs their business. 

[mspart]

Just now, red viking said:

Because they dont have racial quotas u idiot. 

If they are for DEI, they should have the quotas, just to be consistent.

mspart

[red viking]

15 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Why doesn’t the nba and nfl  replicate the population base?  I’ll wait 

Most dei policies dont involve quotas u idiot. That's 110% fact.