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No matter what OTHER people do... you're a POS Pat. You're SO obsessed with yourself that you've stolen JB's handle and you use it, but...there's no shot anyone else cares about Pat Downey...who was just bragging in a picture about "checking Starocci's oli," and you were about a foot into the lower intestines.... which you bragged about. Pat Downey has nothing to with any of this. He couldn't even make it to the point where he was relevant for his Wrestling, he was just relevant for being SUCH a clown. Chase Marstellar without the success before, after or the redemption story. Jesus... Starocci is accused of something heinous and you've got to babble about Pat Downey again.

Still waiting for Trump to release his tax returns. Biden posted his on his campaign website for anyone to see.

I know a wrestler who almost wore a "Prophet Mohammed Trained" shirt at a tournament. Their mom stepped in and told them not to, but I would have loved to see the reaction if they had done it.

Ben is not going to believe all the crap he missed out on when he fully recovers lol. I firmly believe he wouldn't pull any "puzzy sh!t" when discussing recent events, unlike certain media personalities

To be fair.. they do kind of look the same at a quick glance upwards from under a bridge. USADA hits bum me out. Reminds me of JO. Bunch of athletes are banned for THC in-competition. Test for the hard stuff and keep it pushing, man. Hope Brooks doesn’t go to MMA before the end of the quad.

he was never a top 5 guy in the ncaa

I would have just stated that 2020 didn't count for eligibility since there was no post season and simultaneously reinforced that four years of post season eligibility is what matters

Nick Lee got 4 years. Lugo, Pletcher, Moore, Hall, Joseph (and others I am forgetting) got short changed.

Despite how credible the Starocci accusations seem I would think there would need to be charges at a minimum before the NCAA got involved.

And... back to the thread topic. The Trump administration lied (big surprise) - the US didn't "obliterate" Iran's nuclear program. Not even close. With so many lies and so much misdirection it's becoming difficult to follow what the he** is going on in DC. And the sad part is, that is exactly what the Trump administration intended. They don't want us to follow it, they don't want transparency, they want to keep the US citizens in the dark. Let me give you this example. Remember the Qatar jet we debated here for weeks? We can no longer debate it - because it is now deemed classified by Hegseth (Trump's unqualified Pentagon head - who is a moron, but loyal Trump follower.)

Yeah...but it still happened...even if it's stupid. To go down this road, Hendrickson's title over Stevenson doesn't count. And what do you do with Brooks or Nick Lee? Guys who were 1 or 2 seeds and had just 1 loss each(which they'd avenged). How would you have done it? If you lost the ability to compete in the tournament in '20, you get an extra year, but no more than 4? So Brooks still gets the 4 and Starocci and he are done the same year...conversely, Lugo, Pletcher, Moore...Lee, they get another year?

Are you just as dumb as Spanky? Let me spell it out for you half-wit. The current President isn't 'history.' He is actively engaged in making decisions, policy, and mucking up other people's lives on a grand scale. THIS is why the current President's actions are relative and pertinent for active discussion VS retired Presidents. But if you're IQ is low enough, feel free to jump all over any retired politician. We're used to it. It has gotten this bad.

No, your logic was SO stupid. It was after the Iowa duel and you thought because Ferrari ran from him for 7 minutes that you were justified in "pre-emptively," keeping him off Mt Rushmore and saying he stalled...when up until that point, he had bonus points in every match but one.

This year, yes. Next year, no - it'll be here in another 6 months or so. (Did you have a point? Maybe next time, try to make it on your first try, Spanky.)

You do understand that medical records are personal, right? You can't possibly be dumb enough to not know that. So - given that obvious understanding - nobody "hid" anything from anybody. Bid just doesn't want to share. It's OK. Let me put it another way, Trump declined to reveal any medical records about his ear after the Penn shooting. None. Zero. Nothing. Was he "hiding" something? Maybe, maybe not. But those are personal medical records. He's not obligated to. He didn't want to share - which is OK. Like all the other Conspiracy Theorists Morons - JimmySpanks just doesn't get it. He just keeps peddling conspiracies like a thoughtless little follower looking for a pat on the head.

Couldn't care less about the TUE nonsense. So many athletes use Adderall or something similar for ADHD and it's almost always BS. Simone Biles did as well. If he took something that's banned, that's different.

So Kem isn't runner up.

This is a kink I have yet to explore. Take me there

Of what? 3 Weeks ago Bartlett accusing Starocci of being a rapist?

I think that's insane. Your star Wrestler being accused of rape and then you're OTHER star Wrestler being juiced? That's a LOT different than Gillman being a no-show for really stringent testing rules mostly while at Okie St and...then Snyder is bad, but he was an OSU guy so that's less related to the University. I mean, technically Brooks is as well, but he represented the University for a while. Morally, it's Starocci, Snyder, Brooks and then I don't know if Gillman was even immoral, but again, I don't even include him. As far as PSU should be upset, it's Starocci and Brooks. Even then it's MOSTLY Starocci as it was while he was a student.

I’m off to bed boss. Fine the article and read that tho. Details are in it

Yeah...I NEVER heard anything from Bartlett about Starocci being a rapist. The bullying, I still haven't heard about that, but I don't spend much time on Wrestling Twitter. I don't know what you want from me here, I feel like the only reasonable thing to do at this point is reserving judgement because I hadn't heard anything about the sexual assault(though more likely believing the girls). I don't believe Bartlett said anything about sexual assault and if he did, I missed it. I was defending "them" when you were talking about Gillman. What are you looking for here from me?

Of course not. Maybe OSU, Okie State, ASU...PERHAPS, the Cali Talent. Michigan, Illinios, Minnesota and MAYBE Wisconsin... they'd all have to really have some big money donors get invested in the program. Basically a B1G school or a few others. NC State, Va Tech are a couple others. But "replicate it?" MAYBE Ohio State.

I guess the 5th title should be void but if I was making the rules I'd take away the first one...