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Bye Felicia. This chamber will be just fine without you.

sorry saw that late

you know its me right?

It's not TBar. It's hammer

We are never going to agree on this topic. Peace out, y'all enjoy your echo chamber.

if only we had someone to tell us that unfettered illegal immigration was bad way back when

The Shedeur Sanders slide into Minnesota?

Aside from wrestling, I have very little in common with most of you. I don't believe in ice raids or mass deportations. Even at a rate of 3000 a day (their goal, though it is more like 1300) it would take over 10 years to deport them all. I would prefer an amnesty program which is less costly.

tell me about science

I haven't gotten to listen to Basch and Willie yet, but apparently PSU is out. WTF is Bill Bassett doing right now?

If the stories are true, this. I mean this in addition to the actual legal and NCAA penalties. Again, if true, I want folks to realize that these guys are just really good at wrestling, but the "we're a bunch of good natured dweebs" stuff is a front.

and pretty sure the Baylor football coach didn't know what was going on and it took down the president as well who clearly wasn't in the loop. There's a range of behavior from protecting to ignoring to knowing nothing that is not acceptable.

Welcome back TBarr!

I think that’s what got JRob fired.

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If that were me at my job, I would be fired.

Not sure about any of it, but I do know quite often allegations jump from one person to another so many times that the story no longer remotely matches what the first person had to say. It’s now in the hands of law enforcement and they will get to the bottom of it.

Exactly. Wingers will change the subject (to policy) when they are losing the science debate.

Gotcha. I misread you. i totally agree that remaining anonymous is rational and perhaps the best course of action.

The NIL deals outside of the school's revenue sharing are the exact ones that need to be approved by the Deloitte NIL clearinghouse. School revenue sharing does not have to be approved. School collectives are treated the same as the former.

I was too. Were Starocci to mention someone who mentions to someone who mentions to someone... who is to say who is safe in that scenario? I was defending them remaining anonymous. That said, as you also said - he (Starocci) knows what he did to who and when. They aren't going to be anonymous were Starocci to want to take an aggressive, retaliatory approach.

I don't think the coaching staff would have simply stood by and allowed any wrestler to act however they wanted and plausible deniability might not even be a factor here. It’s possible Bartlett brought something up - maybe hinting at events without stating them outright - and wasn’t explicitly shut down, but may have felt shut down. Speaking up against a teammate, especially someone considered a brother by most of your closest friends (and by you, at one point), might require more than just courage to fully follow through. This isn’t a defense of anyone’s actions - just an attempt to suggest how things might have played out. It’s ambiguous for a reason: I imagine it was just as ambiguous in the moment, especially to those in authority.

"If" ... you think all of this could be made up or just thinking the sauna could be true but she was lying about being 17?

we are talking past each other I'm not talking about retaliation against CStar. The article wasn't either I was talking about the fear of retaliation against the alleged victims if they chose to go public. I think it would be egomaniacal (of Cstar or his proxies) to think that the alleged victims fear CStar's retaliation.