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I'd say my tiers, based on where guys are and how they're wrestling right now, are: T1: KOT & Carr T2: MM T3: Hamiti, Olejnik, Ramirez, Caliendo, Amine, Fish, Hall MM may be T1, but I need to see it first. And I think it's obvious he's separated himself from the T3 field.

Sorry, misunderstood your OP.

Ramirez now has two losses. KOT and Olejnik.

Amine has never lost to Hamiti. I know he hasn't looked good as of late. But that has to be taken into account. And if we're going off how guys look right now, Hall just beat Olejnik and had KOT on the rope. He's at least Tier 3.

You've been hanging out with @Jimmy Cinnabon again huh?

To answer the question in the title, seems like it's not only ok but encouraged. Look at FloWrestling. They like to make high school kids look like damn superstars. I am all for covering the sport at all levels. But I think treating 14-18 year old kids like they are 3x NCAA Champs is pretty odd.

Also, outside chance Ramirez can still get the 1 seed (which only happens if he has 1 loss). If Carr beats KOT twice (dual & B12s), Messenbrink takes a loss, Olejnik takes another loss, the only remaining 1 loss wrestlers would be Carr & Ramirez. Ramirez would own the H2H and would be the 1 seed.

Less losses is beneficial for seeding purposes. Right now Ramirez, Carr, Olejnik, Caliendo, and Hamiti all have 1 loss. Ramirez loses to KOT, he has two losses. Assuming Carr beats Olejnik, Olejnik will have two losses. Olejnik beat Ramirez H2H. So he gets tie breaking nod there. If Ramirez sits vs KOT, he protects that. Those Cornell guys like to play chess not checkers.

So you acknowledge they held Ramirez out against Carr for seeding purposes? Because I seem to recall you defending Grey to the death saying he would never do that.

After the Nashville duals situation, I am not gonna hold my breath that Cornell sends Ramirez out.

Depends on which situation you mean. If you're meaning take a D2 team, like St. Cloud, move them to D1 and give them time to establish themselves/recruit D1 level kids etc. Then yea I could see a number of D2's doing well. Such as: St. Cloud State Nebraska Kearney Wisconsin Parkside Lander Univ. Maryville Central MO But if you're saying take a current D2 team as is, and put them in the D1 tournament, I don't see any being in the top 50.

Agree. And I'm not sure he's top 8-10 in the B1G. He might be, but I think it's unclear at this point.

Are we sure Hutmacher is a NQ level wrestler at this point?

Peyton Robb v Jacori Teemer 2022 NCAA's consi-semi (I think). Shayne Van Ness v Ethen Miller 2023 NCAA's R1. Jay Borschel vs Chris Heinrich 2010 NCAA's semi.

David Carr 2022-2023 season comes to mind. Had 3 wins over NCAA Champs, 4 wins over guys that made an NCAA final, and 8 wins over guys that were All-Americans.

Can we add Cole Matthews to the HEW list?

I'd imagine lifetime 125 as well.

Yes, but I could see Brands going to the well again if it's a close dual like many expect.

Was he committed to an Ivy League school previously? This is not a rhetorical question, I actually don't know. But idk about him being too small for college. He's a lifetime 125 which is VERY valuable nowadays and he can freaking scrap. I'm really high on him.

I respect it. I'm high on Pinto as well. I'm also high on Gabe. Maybe too high given his limited college resume. But hopefully we'll see it happen. I'm very intrigued.

How much better, if any, do we see Pinto being than Feldkamp? I think Feldkamp and Pinto are very similar both in terms of style and results. I think Gabe controls where the action takes place and wins one that is close on the scoreboard, but never in danger.

I'd imagine 125: Drake 133: Teske 141: Real 149: Rathjen 157: Franek 165: Caliendo 174: Kennedy 184: Gabe (I think they'll need him to win) 197: Glazier HWT: Keuter If that's the case, I have: 125: Smith dec (3-0) 133: Van dee dec (6-0) 141: Real dec (6-3) 149: Ridge dec (9-3) 157: Robb dec (12-3) 165: Caliendo dec (12-6) 174: Kennedy dec (12-9) 184: Gabe dec (12-12) 197: Allred dec (15-12) HWT: Keuter dec (15-15)

Gotta think so. Maybe even the favorite in that match. Kerk is well under 285, Hutmacher is coming down from 330. I mean AJ is the favorite over Aaron Brooks right? Given AJ is coming down from 230 to 197 and Brooks is coming up from 184 to 197.