Winners Circle

It's about the grind of the D1 season. Which is why match counts nowadays have been cut by nearly 1/3, because the grind of a D1 season is FREAKING HARD. Beating a D1 champ in a one-off match, although would be very impressive, it still wouldn't be a 100% accurate representation of if he's ready to win a title.

Bo would not ready to win an NCAA title one year from now. But he's only a junior in HS, and I doubt whether he'll be ready to win one two years from now even.

The person who doesn't duck, gets credit for the win (via fall) over that school's postseason starter. So in this case, Caleb Smith would have a fall win over Purdue's postseason starter, who will be Matt Ramos. So if they were to end up with comparable resumes (in this case they won't), Smith would have a big advantage for seeding criteria at conference and NCAAs. A good way to reward the wrestler, but not put a L on the duckers record (in case they really are hurt/injured/etc.).

Did we watch the same match? He almost scored from the merkle position the first time they got into that position. He made Drake uncomfortable there, which is why Drake stalemated. That is a position Drake's been in his whole life too.

I think when you know, you know.

I'll be decked out.

I think the staff (and AJ) know where he stands and is just trying to save his seed so he gets the best draw possible and hopefully sneaks onto the podium.

125: Spratley dec Cruz 3-0 133: Ayala mdec Witcraft 4-3 141: Jamison dec Schreiver 6-4 149: Parco mdec Young 8-6 157: Teemer dec Fish 11-6 165: Caliendo dec Amine 14-6 (The walls are closing in on the ) 174: Hamiti mdec Kennedy 14-10 184: Plott mdec Arnold 14-14 197: Buch mdec Surber 18-14 285: Hendrickson fall over Keuter 20-18 I could see: Caliendo getting a major, but off the top of my head I really only remember MM scoring bonus on Amine (I could be wrong about that). Hamiti getting only a decision, but I think Kennedy goes after him and leaves himself vulnerable to points being put on the board. I actually think Nelson would be a safer bet for the to hold it to a decision. Plott getting only a decision, but I went off what we have seen this season. Stock down on Gabe and Plott bonuses just about everyone not named Keckeisen (and Starr but they haven't wrestled). Buch getting only a decision, but again I went off what I've seen this season. Stock way up on Buch in my eyes. Hendrickson getting only a tech or major, but same as the previous two weights. Stock way up on Hendrickson in my eyes. So yes, I think the have a path to victory. I don't think they even need to wrestle a "perfect" dual. But I see the having multiple paths to victory. I will be in attendance and will be my first CHA experience. Very excited.

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Apologies. Not sure why I thought 4th.

He just DQ’d Edmond Ruth on stall calls who was 4th last year, and all but one of has matches have been bonus points. I’d say that’s pretty dominant.

No one is arguing that. Obviously it's hard to major a national finalist. But that still wouldn't put Ferrari in tier 1, to no fault of his own. Keck and Starr have just proven to have separated themselves from the rest (until proven otherwise).

This is what I was saying to @okokzach. Not a hard concept really.

Not true. If you're running a race and you're in 4th place, if you pass the person in 3rd place, you are now in 3rd place, NOT 2nd. That is this situation. If Ferrari beats Plott, that does not catapult him into tier 1 because Plott is NOT tier 1 himself. All that would prove is that Ferrari is tier 2 by himself and Plott would be tier 3 by himself.

Did you want me to add that he's been majored 3/5 times? Or that he's scored a combined 3 total offensive points in 5 matches? These are all true.

1. Those are the facts that I provided. Lmao 2. Yes, Plott is clearly better than everyone who is not a title contender. He is the best of the non title contenders. He is tier 2 by himself. 3. Correct. At this weight #1&2 have separated from everyone else. Which is why Plott is not a title contender. 4. Doing everything you can to lose close (not win) does not make you a title contender.

The transitive property doesn't always apply in wrestling. Just because Ferrari beats Plott in a similar fashion to Keck, doesn't put him on the same level as Keck. Period. I used my statistics to prove that Plott is not a title contender. So Ferrari beating him, even if convincingly so, doesn't make Ferrari a title contender.

The same Dustin Plott who is 0-5 vs Keckeisen by a combined score of 63-23 with the closest loss being 8-3? Beating Plott, even if convincingly does NOT mean Ferrari is ready to contend for a title "NOW".

No. What is the difference between 2 and 3 losses? He's currently an 8-12ish type seed (with losses to 2 guys that are in the 6-8 range) and a third loss to the inevitable 3 seed won't do anything to change that.

A loss to a higher ranked wrestler would not drop him further for seeding purposes.

We're gonna find out how important duals are to Brands. If they want to win the dual, then we'll see Ferrari. If they don't care about the dual, we'll see Arnold.

Yea i'd like to change may vote. I voted 'No' to will he sit. I think he WILL WRESTLE.

125: Figs 133: Ayala 141: Koderhandt 149: SVN 157: Kasak 165: MM 174: Haines 184: Starr 197: Buch 285: Gable

Assuming Teemer wrestles B1G's, I would imagine that means he's healthy enough to steal a spot (otherwise he'd default out). I assume he'd still a spot from Harer (depending on how brackets fall). Then Harer would have to hope for WC, which I would assume he'd get but you never know. Not sure if there's anything to comment on, just wanted to chime in somehow.

Donny Pritzlaff was always rightful heir to the Wisconsin throne. Wisconsin is getting bad karma for choosing Bono over him.