WrestlingRasta

He’s getting a lot of play lately

Yeah, can agree to not necessarily like the call, but more so I see three different things she could have done at the end, any one of the three finishes off the match. So that said I’m not going to put the loss on a correct call at maybe a bad time. Feel very confident that everyone who is up in arms, if it was precisely reversed and she won in that manner, it would be absolutely deserved and we’re glad they went to review to get it right. (Many may not admit it but it’s the truth)

That is not all you hear, at all. What you hear are people whose job it actually is to investigate these things is they did not find level of fraud that would change the results of the election. There’s fraud by both parties committed in every election. Anyone with any level of sense knows that. Not to mention it’s just amazing to me that MAGA keeps crying about a stolen election.

Unfortunately for Mr. Trump, the Jan6 speech and 'beliefs' are completely irrelevant to all 91 of the felony charges against him. They are going to have to come up with a better defense.

They challenged for fleeing hold on that last five seconds. Tough way to make that kind of call......but she was on her bicycle.

wouldn't that be MAGBA

MAGA!!!!!

Yeah she did say intends to try all together.

Someone say bud?? Seriously, putting Mess in right off the bat over two world and NCAA champs.....that's puttin your balls out there...

Got to thinking it’s extremely possible this is correct, he doesn’t go to jail pending trial, but what about Rudy, Meadows, Powell, Eastman….some of those with multiple serious charges, but not running for president?

Except that there’s plenty of evidence that shows he knows he lost legitimately. And even if you “100% believe it”, it is still against the law to attempt to threaten public officials, to attempt to steal and break into voting machines, to……well a number of things he’s accused of doing. So no what he believes is not at all what matters. The law doesn’t have exclusions for stupidity.

This is very common in Iran and the Stans.

Those will do well oven cooked

This thread has taken a hella number of weird turns....even for these forums.

Meadows requesting (expecting to be just the first) to have his case moved out of GA and into federal court, claiming he was acting out his duties as chief of staff. Some of the people I've listened to/read are saying he may have a shot because the COS serves at the pleasure of the president, but that the other 18 defendants don't really have much of a chance should they move for the same.

Another Woops

Ben Shapiro literally wrote a book on why Obama should be charged under RICO. But of course his stance here is ‘regardless of what you think of the evidence’ this is all about charging a political opponent and should never happen. But here’s the thing about “election interference”….all of this has zero impact on yours and my right to vote for Trump, whether he’s in Mar-a-lago or Danbury.

I can see Scott gaining some ground once the fever breaks.

No clue, and time will tell how good these predictions will turn out.

Valid as well. BUT...when you imagine jury being sequestered, and instead of reading all of the social media bits and seeing the video clips of this segment or that segment.......you are fed a strict diet, for months, of nothing but facts, evidence, and testimony. For awhile I thought getting a conviction on him would be near impossible. Now.... not so sure.

Valid points, in general feel the same way about everything you said, but I think there are a couple things, one being that this DA doesn't seem to care about the campaign impacts, the federal prosecutors are certainly sensitive to it, but this DA, and this jurisdiction, seem to have no problem with it. Doesn't erase the challenges to holding him, I just feel like they may be a little more intent. Combined with.......I don't think he's going to leave them much choice. But that's all really just opinion and not so much wishful thinking. Now, my third paragraph, particularly the second half of it, definitely opinion and wishful thinking.

Just curious what you mean wishful thinking?

Georgia indictment is a complete game changer, in my opinion. A very large portion of the evidence in the indictment is either the documented writings and filings, and recorded voices, of those accused in the indictments, and in RICO all are accountable for each other's actions. But here is why it is a game changer, much bigger than those in DC, NY, and FL... *Out on bail: I think it is very very likely he will be going to jail pending trial. For a couple reasons: 1) in order to be released on bail in this GA RICO case he will have to prove that he will not try to influence or intimidate witnesses, or officers of the court. He also has to prove he is not a flight risk, which, would be very hard for him to prove, but the judge wouldn't have to even go that far, because he has spent the last two weeks intimidating, influencing, and harassing officers, judges, and potential witnesses. It's all there in his written word. 2) He has been going off consistently on the DC judge the last few days, which could get his DC bail revoked in of itself, but also has went off specifically on the Atlanta DA. They will almost certainly bring up recent instances of his supporters threatening various officers involved in these cases when it comes to bail in GA. If he goes to jail pending trial, that's it. He's in jail for the rest of his life (in my opinion). I believe he will be convicted, and we will never have another Trump social media post, and his campaign will go to shit. He will still have his MAGA constituents out there pushing more things telling MAGA followers how they are supposed to think, but slowly it will start to erode away as all of this evidence will start to flood the webs and airwaves, replacing the constant Trump watch on what's he going to say next. The fever will break, and by the time we are in the heat of primary season, Republicans will finally be serious about another candidate. I think for the first time I feel like November 2024 is not going to be Biden vs Trump. Republicans will have a different candidate (here's to hoping Democrats do to). The evidence in this indictment is as solid, if not more, than the other cases. There's even a document from before the election, stating the plan to call victory early and start claiming fraud. The filings and statements to state officials are part of record and going to be pretty hard to break. And lastly, if convicted, no President would be able to pardon him. I seriously wonder if he makes it to trial. Side note-- the way this indictment is laid out provides for a tremendous amount of irony. Rudy, in taking down the mob back in the 80's, basically wrote the blue print for this RICO case. And as such you are going to see a very similar scene as that of those mob trials. A prosecution team of a handful of individuals on one side, and a large amount of defendants and lawyers together on the other side. Difference is Rudy will be on the other end of this one.

GA grand jury has returned ten indictments (being reported). All names not yet released. Interesting side note, for RICO charges in GA, being awarded bail comes with the burden on the defendant to prove he/she is not a flight risk nor prone to intimidation or witness tampering. If defendant cannot prove this they will be held in custody until trial. Ruh-roh