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Sure. You had 6 sitting there in Guam that they didn't use. But lets just play this out. -Iran, had to be taken care of. Too close to a Nuclear Weapon. They're weeks, maybe days away. We HAVE to bomb them. That's an acceptable risk/reward for the United States. End result? -Set their Nuclear program back 3 months. So was this a success or a failure in your estimation? Was the risk worth 3 months?

Perhaps. Send all 19. If this was important enough to do... make sure you finish the job(though...I never believe the US Military...they're not honest about their most advanced aircraft or technology in general...which is fine, the rest of the world doesn't need to know what we have plus there are several other planes that may be able to carry MOPs that...again, the public is just ignorant about). That'd lead me to believe they didn't know this until later... though Leavitt and another UN Spokesman have said they DID destroy the nuclear sites completely. But it was US Intelligence Agencies who said it didn't destroy them. I guess just wait and see more concrete reports. But the cease-fire is holding...even if it didn't happen right on time.

An insurance policy is a legal contract. They cannot just refuse a legitimate claim because "they don't want to." They can say this is "experimental," or not medically necessary, but that's why you have oversight. You can file an appeal or you can ask for a 3rd party arbiter. This usually involves the medical professionals familiar with the case making an argument for or against the the treatment. And insurance company denying a legitimate claim in a high profile case is going to end up costing them a lot more. We all get insurance companies are shady, but they can't operate with impunity. I'm sure the Askren Family and Doctors are figuring it out, but if they're denying the transplant... I would hope it's not for a "valid" reason.

According to the defense department, they have hundreds. https://en.defence-ua.com/industries/us_hits_iranian_nuclear_sites_with_14_gbu_57_bombs_how_many_are_in_stock_and_how_fast_are_they_made-14927.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com As for how long it takes, the same amount of time it takes to fly 1. We have ~20(that we know of) and we had 6 in Guam. I was told(and believe) we had complete control of the Iranian airspace. So the only question should be...did we know we wouldn't be able to completely destroy the bunker before, only slow Iran down, or was this the result of intelligence we found out after the fact.

I don't understand if you're arguing just for the sake of arguing here. We're not talking about bombing some Taliban stronghold, we're talking about the Governments of Israel and Iran and it was Israel who kept on attacking after the ceasefire. But yeah, I'm fairly certain they have satellite phones and the like. Some of you really need to figure out what point you're trying to argue. It can't both be a Nation that's "not serious," and "terrorists hiding in a cage," with 200 feet of reinforced Concrete building a nuclear weapon AND a threat so large the US had to bomb them. You really think the dichotomy makes sense? The IRGC can't get reception, they don't have communications... but hey, they are DAYS away from a Nuclear weapon and the capacity to launch it...

Sadly...apparently not. If US intelligence is to be believed(and I don't know why they'd lie about this)...most of the underground infrastructure and enriched uranium remains intact. We set them back...maybe 3 months.... which begs the question, why the hell didn't we go back in and keep bombing? Is it just too deep? In my mind, I'd think 12 of those MOPs would...soften it up, if you needed another 12, finish the job. I'd suspect they were not certain until after the fact, otherwise, this entire exercise was futile beyond showing Iran what we're capable of(and they already knew that).

Is that was ya learned there Jimmy? Can you tell me the difference? And do you want to seriously argue the US hasn't been to War since WWII?

Can we PLEASE stop just claiming Obama just "gave" them billions in cash? For starters, it wasn't billionS, it was a little over a billion. Second, he released money that was THEIR money as part of an agreement in which they'd not pursue nuclear weapons...as well as a return of American prisoners...but primarily to stop pursuing weapons. So he unfroze Iranian assets in an agreement. One in which they were abiding by.

Yeah, it's always been done where the cease fire starts at a certain time... but I said it didn't make sense to sign it with the intent of trying to launch a massive attack just prior to the treaty going into effect. You gave two scenarios, there was one where someone continued an offensive with knowledge they'd agreed to a peace treaty. Also, comparing WWI or WWII when you have people all over Europe, you needed time to coordinate with literally hundreds of thousands of Men... of course there was going to be fighting from the time it was signed until it went into effect. You couldn't quite communicate via cell phone back then and you didn't agree to a Ceasefire so you could quick launch off another massive attack. 2025 where you can communicate with everyone in a matter of seconds... I just find it an odd way to go about a peace treaty.

"entirely unsupported and, candidly, astonishly navie?" Or it's entirely supported and it's naive to think it WOULDN'T be position dependant. When have QBs NOT gotten the largest contracts? Who are the top QBs? Arch Manning has had the largest NIL deal the past 2 years and will likely have it the next 2 years. https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/mock-drafts/2026 Now, without looking, I'd guess the QBs, including Sellers(and Drew Allar) are getting the biggest deals. 4 of the top QBs are white, one is black. By far the highest paid...white. Is it because he's white or because he comes from the Manning family? Gonna guess it's the later.

Ok...Ramos wasn't the only one to beat Lee. Askren had 7 losses in his career I believe(out of 8 matches) all to Pendleton. That number may be off, but it's close. I think Askren got one on him. I pointed out there were multiple Wrestlers who came out and got a TD on Lee and that even the great fluke, that same Wrestler...who was not a 2X National Champ, he'd done it before. Yeah, I'm with you. I'd say the same about Starocci. Some guys don't put themselves in those positions and they're good enough to control the match so they don't need to. But Zain's an even better example. The biggest difference between those two, Zain and Lee is Lee would come out a little...overly aggressive and that's why he'd get taken down early at times. I'd be surprised if Zain gave up more than a couple TDs in his career... and one was vs a 4X Champ.

I just don't get why the Insurance would not pay for the transplant. There are a whole set of reasons they won't and the only possible one would be "experimental," or some type of non-authorized procedure. All the rest...that I know of, medically neccessary, his ability to care for himself, be able to get care to support himself financially...comorbidities, none of those would be applicable. But whatever...Dana White is donating 300-400K from what I've read and the Wrestling community is... pretty good about taking care of their own, so whatever BS reason insurance won't cover it, I'm thinking they can make up the rest. All the rest of the information is great and...the most important though.

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I was gonna say Cruise as he's just been playing the same role for the last 25 years... but I think he CAN play better roles. Risky Business, a Few Good Men(I could watch that movie every night). But I've definitely thought about him for a while. Also, it's hard to watch Jack Reacher with Tom Cruise if you've read a Jack Reacher book. You picture...well, the guy who plays Reacher in the TV show. 6'5 just Tony Mandrich type guy(the roided up one)! You can't flip that 6'5 for 5'6 and take it as serious. Plus, now I think of Xenu or whatever and it's...even sillier.

Yeah... the strongly worded Tweet didn't do the job... I still remain positive this is going to die down. Still think he's a clown, but Israel isn't going to risk losing the support of their strongest ally. They pushed the boundaries... or crossed it? It's hard to tell. The whole, 'the Ceasefire begins in X hours,' doesn't make sense to me. It's like a countdown for you to get your last shots in. Again, don't like the guy, but he does not want to be known as the President who got the US into a War. He's not going to invade(we may support a rebellion, but I'd bet this dies down. And AGAIN, I don't think this is going to ever turn into a land war on behalf of the US...but for those saying Iran is nearly impenetrable... this is why I disagree(this isn't even counting those who are deserting from Irans's side). https://youtu.be/F_InUR13p4I?list=TLPQMjQwNjIwMjXfxkUPEw3cPg

I kinda agree. I didn't think he was a great scrambler. Even the first Ramos match that year, he was taken down, put on his back...then either put on his back again or taken down again, but I thought it was 8-0 or 8-1. I didn't think he was great on his feet. He was more than good enough, but if you're saying "as complete as a wrestler as one can think of," then...I don't see it. He gave up TDs a few times that year on early scrambles. For a guy who was SO dominant... that seemed like a weakness. At LEAST relative to the rest of his Wrestling.

Yeah...that's why watching it at 1.55X is better... but it also sounds like a fat guy eating ribs... It's a tradeoff. Also, do they start talking Wrestling less than 13 minutes into this one? Baasch seems to try and steer it on track but...it somehow veers back off-track.

He really sounds like a clown. Look, every program has black eyes. I think Minnesota is an exceptionally well run program and clean. They had their legendary, Championship Coach run out for covering up drug dealing. So calling Iowa(he says us) the most ethical program all-time...it's silly. He also acts like Bassett said Iowa is a 2nd tier program and they don't know how to win given how he claimed Bo attacked them on the way out...

And why is that? Why is it "very likely" at a time when Iranian Soldiers are joining in the protests despite being threatened with treason...why do you think it'd require someone to "flatten" Tehran in order for the Iranian people to execute regime change? The Iran-Iraq War turned when we destroyed their Navy in '88. And we definitely took control of Afghanistan. But AGAIN...as I'm trying my best to articulate, comparing Persia, Iran to Iraq and Afghanistan is a foolish comparison to begin with. There's a WHOLE helluva lot more of an appetite to see a new Govt in Iran than there ever was in Iraq or Afghanistan.

Well...nobody said we were going to invade, but, no, it's not "basically impossible" to "forcibly invade," Iran. It's more difficult to invade Afghanistan and we did... The DIFFERENCE...again, was the strength and support the Taliban supported there, the 14 different clans who united to keep fighting and Afghanistan NEVER had anywhere NEAR the support from the people for Regime change. Oh Christ, we just came in and dropped 14 30,000 pound bombs and 30 Tomahawk missiles on Iran and we got in and got out undetected and with absolutely no resistance. Their Navy is comically overmatched by the US Navy. They're NOT "virtually impossible," to invade when they can't protect their coasts or their sky. Now, with regard to their proxies, they've largely been neutralized. The US Navy handed a nearly decade long war to Iraq in an afternoon. But TO BE CLEAR... there is absolutely ZERO indication the United States is interested in ANY ground invasion.

Based on what? This feels like an assumption. Lets take this a step further and say that Trump would have seized power through force(not hard to imagine)... and about ~30M people had to flee the Country. During that time, he executed Family who remained behind, he committed horrible atrocities on those who didn't get out including taking the eyes of women who protest. And then a Country bombs some underground bunkers. YOU'D be upset about that? Because you KEEP saying Iranian Ex-Pats "don't like the Ayatollah," which is silly, they HATE the Ayatollah, but they're still mad about the US bombing their Country. I'm asking WHERE are you getting that beyond a feeling? I could give you sources of people or again, share my own anecdotes as I told you, I know a very large, extended family who fled Iran, went to India and now live in the US and they VERY much would love to see a 30,000 pound bomb land on the entire Gov't of the Islamic Republic of Iran. But you're saying...you'd feel differently. Well... try and imagine a different set of scenarios beyond you WANTING to leave the US for...whatever reasons you mentioned.

I'd GLADLY see the US supporting the Crown Prince and rebel forces. Arm them, let them fight. But we can't do anymore than that. Iran needs to be taken back by it's own people(to your point).

They were. The same group that determined they were not working toward Nuclear weapons when Trump pulled out in 2018 said they were now. That's more than enough for me. -I only brought up Tulsi Gabbard because it showed the hypocrisy of the right, but...C'mon, they've been working toward it since 2019 and they have literally admitted to as much. They said they'd give up their efforts and re-engage in negotiations if the other parties upheld their end(Trump). So they admitted it. Also, the source we used in 2018 when Trump pulled out. https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/statements/iaea-director-generals-introductory-statement-to-the-board-of-governors-3-march-2025?utm_source=chatgpt.com AGAIN I'd like to point out the difference between @Scouts Honor or @Caveira is my actually change when the facts chance. If you believed this in 2018, why wouldn't you believe it now?? 1-Are you kidding? The hell there isn't. We have ACTUAL PROOF of transfers of tens of millions of dollars a year from the Iranian Govt to these groups! No evidence? AMPLE evidence. 2-The Ayatollah doesn't NEED to "represent" the Citizens, he has absolute control. But we didn't hit Civilian Targets. The MAJORITY of Iranians are in favor of Regime change, but the fact of the matter is, THIS is the regime we have to deal with. 3-I didn't say it STARTED in Iran, I'm speaking present tense. If I was looking back, I'd look at Saudi Arabia...who we signed a peace treaty with at Camp David, or Jordan who signed at the Oslo Accords. Iraq is just trying to get by. The POWER in the Region TODAY is Iran. I NEVER said it "started" there. My exact words; IRAN is undisputedly the largest State Sponsor of Terrorism in the World. And we're going to allow them to get a Nuclear Weapon when they've already said they'll use it on Israel? Oh nonsense. They can't even get past Israel's Iron Dome and we have a VASTLY superior air defense network. 2-I've REPEATEDLY spoken of the PEOPLE of Iran, those who've come here, the millions and millions(which is now tens of millions) who are living outside of Iran due to the Ayatollah. So you don't need to inform me it's not the "people of Iran." But if you have the POWER, you're the only one that matters. That's just...basic fact. The are impotent. Iran vs Israel+the US is like Eddie Hall(6'8 480LB world's strongest man) and a child. The power imbalance is comical. Unless... you irresponsibly let the Child have access to a gun. THAT is the equivalent of allowing Iran to have a Nuclear weapon. And finally, are you using Russia? Their Military is depleted and in NO position to equip Iran. We destroyed their Navy on accident in an afternoon when there was a helluva lot more powerful Nations in the Middle East. They can ONLY touch us through terrorist attacks and they were going to commit those either way. What metric will you use to determine if I'm right or you're right? Whatever... I'm not getting into this. Experts on Iran have cautioned against Regime Change as we may end up with someone who is even more of a hardliner. I'm arguing facts on this. Not how much I hate Trump. There's nothing substantial here about the veracity of taking out Iran's Nuclear facilities. Do not condescend to me. I'm not Jimmy/Scouts or another jackass on here. I well aware of what is going on. This was NOT a "massive military engagement." NOT on behalf of the US and Trump set a limit for the Cease Fire. And it would appear I AM paying closer attention to what Israel and Iran are saying; ISREAL SAID IT'S OBJECTIVES HAVE BEEN MET. Iran said THEY'D agree to the ceasefire if Israel did likewise. https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/iran-israel-us-latest-news/card/israel-confirms-ceasefire-CwJztfY5XEbBext6QWVa?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/commodities/oil-price-sp500-futures-trump-announces-israel-iran-ceasefire-hormuz-2025-6?utm_source=chatgpt.com So there's no "cutting and running," they've agreed to the cease fire. Period. BOTH sides have. Really? How many boots on the ground are there? What have we committed ourself to? WE bombed their Nuclear bunkers and they've agreed to a Cease Fire because they DO NOT POSSESS THE MIITARY CAPABILITY TO HURT US. Again, I would expect them to commit some cowardly acts of terror, but they would and have been doing that either way. This bears NO resemblance to Iraq, Afghanistan or even Somalia, Syria. But keep talking to me like I'm some wet behind the ears version of Scout or Jimmy with no Historical understanding. I think that's comical. It's actually not that confusing. It's rather simple. it's devastating to Iran. They got slapped around by the US who decimated their Nuclear programs. Israel already decapitated their intelligence agency by taking out 20 high ranking officials. Iran TRIED to strike back in a futile effort and just as with Operation Praying Mantis, they were helpless to do anything. You want some history, understand the cap between Israel's Military power, then compare that to the US. Then compare THAT to Iran...and it's a joke. Their leader is in hiding. I'm sure when there's some attack in the United States it will be devastating to those involved. This was a threat that HAD to be dealt with. You would be FAR better off arguing Trump's rhetoric and decisions in 2018 to pull out of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, the JCPOA. But we did. And I'm talking about RIGHT NOW. You're acting as though this is...Afghanistan 2.0 when in facts, it's not. It's over. Iran would be foolish to do anything else. They cannot defend their airspace, they cannot defend the Sea, they cannot defend their borders if we choose to invade(which we won't do, but hypothetically, if they wanted to, they simply lack the man power, the fire power...all of it).

Re; his approval rating, there are...a lot of antisemites in this country. I don't think it'd drop that much(though I get 0 was hyperbolic). I guess we just disagree on this issue. I mean, Trump DID put himself between a "rock and a uranium place," by pulling out of the deal in 2018. But...lets set that aside and break it down; -Iran WAS building nuclear weapons. -We did NOT kill civilians, we targeted bunkers. -Iran is really at the heart of everything that ails the Middle East. -Hamas, Hezbollah, the attack on Israel that set everything off. It's...all starting in Iran. -Iran WANTS us dead. They will hit back, they were going to hit back anyway, but their military is pathetic relatively speaking. They are impotent. They can't do anything. You say he had a whole chessboard...and I'd love to trash Trump. He's a moron and most world leaders mock him. But they can't mock the US Military and...frankly... I thought this was the right move. I believe he pushed BACK on the Hawks, he's not going to take out the Ayatollah. Iran doesn't have the ability to hit back. It kinda seems like this is...over. Israel should stop at this point, but this just isn't the massive military engagement it's being made out to be. Consequential, certainly. Will it draw the US into a protracted Miltary Engagement? I don't think so...