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So has Hellickson never said much more? I am curious how much Jordan may have been involved in his silence. To be fair, if Jordan said something like “if you admit you knew then you’re going down too,” which probably wouldn’t be wrong. Edit: But it was sad how multiple guys felt Hellickson in particular was a father figure to him and then felt betrayed

Thanks for the context. It does look like the first thing she says is “trash,” which I think most would agree typically refers to a ref’s call. So the logical conclusion would be that what followed was probably also about the call.

Can we admit Clark or her teammates aren’t innocent in some of this stuff? Looks like today’s game was mostly white on white crime. Not sure what part of the game this happened, but speaking of lip reading, and no I’m not sure if this is accurate… This eye poke did look dirty: But I think Clark either tripped because of her eye, or took a dive here: Then Sophie Cunningham retaliates with the illegal headlock (I do think the contrast of folks celebrating this vs how they react if someone fouls Clark is interesting):

Just watched. (spoiler) I wouldn’t say it was “very political.” Politics weren’t mentioned until the last 25 minutes or so, and only about Jordan, I don’t think there was anything about the “GOP in general.” Towards the end was definitely anti-Jordan, but it was based on the stories of the multiple wrestlers (and referee) that were interviewed. They said Hellickson had told them he would support them, but then ghosted them, and they blamed Jordan for that, since they said Jordan also called them asking them to publicly support himself. But I think the bigger “hit piece” was more against Ohio State, rightfully so. Jordan was of course also mentioned earlier in the doc, but usually in conjunction with Hellickson. There was definitely the implication earlier on that they blew off allegations at the time. Which then was contrasted to the female fencing coach actually making complaints. One thing I don’t recall reading about previously was the steroid allegations. I thought the story of Dan Ritchie, as well as the hockey player were particularly sad.

So why did you start this thread and ask it as a question?

Cool, how much do you charge for your professional lip reading services?

Except for this comment to make sense, we’d need to know for sure if Griner said what you think. We don’t.

So I guess they’re hoping Sammy Alvarez gets that medical shirt approved?

Is that what causes strep throat?

I said many called him racist. I didn’t say I agree. I don’t think Trump is racist. Stephen Miller on the other hand…racist.

Learn to read. I said many have called Trump racist. But many have not said all of MAGA is racist. But please, continue moving the goalposts to distract from the assassination of a Democrat politician and attempted assassination of another.

Wut? “No kings” doesn’t mean they think Trump (and especially not all of MAGA) is racist, they think he wants to be a dictator. Dictator and racist are very different. But yes, I agree it’s fairly common for top Dems to call Trump racist. I disagree that it’s common for Dems to call all of MAGA racist.

Can you please provide quotes of 1 per day from the last 3 days of D leadership saying all of MAGA are racists? Should be easy since you think it happens all day every day. Thanks in advance.

Well for one there’s no guarantee the respondents were even liberal. For example that happened during Covid when anticovidvaxxers latched onto a “survey” that reported PhD’s as being hesitant of the vax. Turned out a lot of the respondents were just trolling. But again, my biggest issue with the survey is the phrasing of the question. I think someone would answer yes to that question if they thought any one of the 3. Sexist alone I could maybe see “most” Dems saying about Repubs

That’s quoting one person, who would fall under the definition of “some”

In a scientific poll, maybe. Not survey monkey

Like I said, the way the question is phrased would probably say yes if it’s one or the other. And I’m not sure I’d think an online survey of 3k would be representative of the country anyway.

Bigoted and racist kinda, sexist no.

What a terrible way to word that question in that survey. Seems like someone would select that answer if they thought any 1 of the 3 options

Some, sure. Most, no. But they’re not my “comrades”

No, I wouldn’t

This is my point. I wouldn’t assume someone that helps Africans is a lib. That’s weird.

I wouldn’t know

To make money for their business

You’re really grasping at straws. Even if he was “directly involved,” are you saying only Democrats would help Africans immigrate to the US? I thought the right was OK with legal immigrants. Just not illegal ones.