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Thanks for adding DD. I think what I was trying to say, you said so much more succinctly. mspart

I think this is a good case for this kind of thing to be more regulated. The tourney is not complete if there are forfeits going on, which is demonstrably wrong, especially for the cause they are forfeited. Womens sports are for women, not men pretending to be women. Period. mspart

The question is - Who didn't see this coming? Joe has lied his entire career. This is a way to protect himself as well has his son. RVs Trump twist is laughable. mspart

That is assault and should be prosecuted. That will end that kind of thing. mspart

From Yahoo finance. All three indicate that the election is was generally good for the market. If I am interpreting this right. mspart

The founding of our country was based on liberal politics. It was against tyranny. It was against autocratic rule. It was for the rule of law. It was for representative governing. But after they were done, what were those that wanted to to remain as established called? Federalists or conservative. Now I move to unions. The original case for unions was to get people out of working to death for no pay. A laudable goal, though sometimes violent. They pretty much achieved that fairly quickly. Then what were the unions supposed to do? Stay liberal and fight the institution or go conservative and keep the gains made? They went for change. They needed more money, they supported candidates and gave them the workers money. So now we have unions that are political as well as economic. Union bosses make tons of money. Is the role of unions complete? If so, they are not needed. But they think they are needed. Currently they are demanding more and more pay until they run themselves out of a job. Airline and auto workers and long shoremen are examples. Fast food workers area also an example. Machines or cheaper labor do their work. The liberal policies of unions are not a benefit to the workers 100% Now back to government. We have a functioning government and society. Everyone wants that to continue. However liberal philosophy is opposed to "stay the same" kind of thinking. So keeping the gains made is conservative and has ho place. So they keep wanting more change. Pretty soon the change becomes crazy and liberals wonder what happened to their party. Liberals don't have a party that has gone further to the left into socialist and communist thought. Authoritarian thought which we have experienced. So what is a "classic liberal" to do? they do not like the craziness, nor are they comfortable with conservative thought but are more comfortable with it than the crazy. I believe a lot of people fall into this camp. They want to feed the homeless and those that are poor. But they do not want to feed the illegal immigrant nor house them, nor have them here. They want welfare services for those in need, not for those who could work but choose not to. Etc. Currently we have a far left where all of these things are ok. We have a conservative thought that recoils at the things that are going on. Where does the "classic liberal" go? Is there such thing as too much liberal in a society? Does there come a point where societal change is not good. I think there is this question being asked and answered in the latest election. There was a repudiation of the crazy for the not so crazy or conservative leanings. My sincere hope is that the crazies wake up and figure out their crazy talk is wrong headed and decide to stop changing society to match their inner crazy. I'm probably delusional in this wish but there you go. To sum up, I think there is a point where liberal thought gives way to crazy leftist thought. It is at that point that liberal thought has run its course. mspart

I think he would prefer to be called a classic liberal. He certainly is no leftist. He does call them straight though I think. He did not like either of the NY Trump prosecutions, called them lawfare. He did think the Jack Smith prosecutions had more teeth especially the one about the documents. He did not think much of the Georgia prosecution. He does not think much about the government censoring, wishing to censor, or colluding to censor people. He wrote a book on the 1st Amendment and how it is currently endangered by the left and those in government Those are "classic liberal" concerns. mspart

No need to apologize. Have a Happy Thanksgiving WKN! mspart

https://jonathanturley.org/2024/11/27/reimagining-the-resistance-lawfare-warriors-express-regret-but-not-remorse-after-election/ You can read the whole article, but I will just post here the last few paragraphs. He gets this absolutely right, in my opinion. The problem with the lawfare campaign is that it did not just treat the law as an extension of politics, but treated the public as chumps. A large part of the public saw these cases for what they were: the use of motivated judges in favorable jurisdictions for political advantage. These same figures claim to be “saving democracy.” The result was that liberals convinced many citizens that democracy was at risk . . . from them. What they saw was efforts at ballot cleansing to remove Trump and other Republicans from the ballots. They saw raw lawfare in New York courts. They saw Kamala Harris and other Democrats supporting an unprecedented system of censorship that one court called “Orwellian.” Liberals continue to ignore that obvious disconnection despite the polls showing that they were increasingly viewed as the threat. Voters in swing states felt that Trump is more likely to protect democracy than Kamala Harris, who was running on a “save democracy” platform. One poll asked whether Trump or Harris “would do a better job” of “defending against threats to democracy,” 43% picked Trump, while 40% picked Harris. Likewise, free speech registered as one of the greatest concerns for voters in this election after years of censorship and blacklisting from the left. Now, one of the academics who previously said that we have to reimagine our democracy and trash our constitution is advising that the election left “a Democratic Party in dire need of reimagining.” There is a point where “reimagining” everything from the police to democracy becomes less of an exercise of self-evaluation than self-delusion. What many figures like Moyn are not willing to admit is that what Democrats attempted to do with lawfare was wrong and that the public rejected it … and them. mspart

I just did a word search on this thread and the only word lie or lying is yours quoted above. If it is from another thread, I don't know where to start looking. Calling you a liar is something I try not to do in life. I try to be better than that. I apologize. mspart

Yes, I live in an upside down world that sees: - people telling truth getting ostracized by their government and social media and media. - people getting jailed for exercising their first amendment rights - people getting not jailed for rioting and looting because those are their first amendment rights - adults advocating puberty blockers for minors possibly sterilizing them - adults advocating surgical measures on minors to try to change their gender. These same adults don't want a school nurse giving an aspirin or tylenol to a kid that's been hurt. - Government officials not working to find justice for victims of crime but rather try to keep the perps out of jail. - Government officials that tell the unwashed masses that inflation is down nothing to worry about as prices are up 20% and some things are even more. - Government officials going after political opponents using the courts to enforce their wishes (see the second item above) - DOJ officials calling parents not having it at school board meetings domestic terrorists. That's the upside down world I live in. mspart

Upside down? Funny term for seeing the world the way it is. Trump got voted in partly due to immigration issues and the worsening drug epidemic. He's not even president and he's getting calls from Canada and Mexico offering support so they don't get hit with the tariffs. That should be good news to anyone that lives in reality. mspart

Yes, that was a win. There were 6 original initiatives. The legislature did not want us to be voting on all because it would show how out in left field they are. So they affirmed 3 before they could go to the voters. The other three wer sent to the ballot. The Natural Gas one was added in a sprint to get it on the ballot. So out of 7 initiatives, 4 were passed. Not a bad record at all. But not what was wanted. mail in might be an issue I agree. However, the State voted for Harris by less than they voted for Biden. More voted for Trump in 2024 than in 2020. There is an indication of future direction there but we voted in an all D legislature and all D state wide elected positions. So we still have a lot to learn here. mspart

Yes, So what you are saying is that you knew all about this already. Do I have that correct? Did you know the tariffs were aimed at immigration change and reduced fentanyl levels? Did you know that the Canadian Prime Minister called Trump immediately? Did you know the Mexican President called Trump almost immediately? If you did, how did you find out? Was it from WAPO, NYT, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, CNBC, NSNBC, Fox or somewhere else? The fact you did not say you already knew this leads me to think you did not know but want to argue so you are. Yeah, I had to search for these articles, they did not just come up first thing in my search. I heard about these on the radio and I was looking for source material. Not much out there. I knew there would be pushback without citations. Yet you found a way. No comment on the message, just shoot the messenger. Ad hominem attacks are not an argument. mspart

Sorry, your chart is misleading. yes it went up and came down over the space of 3.5 years. Your chart says this but the way it is presented looks like it was a short time. So after showing you all I did all you want to discuss is panic? Maybe panic is the wrong word. High anxiety over rapidly rising prices. Does that do it for you? That did happen. Again you are trying to argue this with the experts used by Biden and completely panned by those that voted R? Normal people can see that gas prices are higher than 9%, food prices are higher than 9% etc etc. Yes inflation came down but that did not stop the rising prices. That is the definition of inflation. Devaluing of money with resulting rise in prices. When you have 3 years of it, with a peak of 9%, prices will be higher than just 9%. Anyone with a HS level of math could deduce this. If you want to believe otherwise, go right ahead. It doesn't change the facts at all. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/food-prices-grocery-inflation-biden-economy/ Any increase in food prices may be especially painful to American consumers, given that supermarket prices are now 25% higher than in January 2020, while inflation has increased 19% over that same time. That means even though grocery costs are now rising at a slower pace than in the depth of the pandemic's inflationary spike, the same shopping basket still costs more than a month or a year ago, a fact that has soured many consumers on the economy. Two-thirds of voters polled by Yahoo Finance/Ipsos late last year said food prices are where they're most impacted by inflation, far outpacing the 1 in 10 who said they feel the impact through gas prices or higher rents. mspart

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-says-inflation-temporary-fed-should-do-what-it-deems-necessary-recovery-2021-07-19/ Biden says inflation temporary; Fed should do what it deems necessary for recovery July 19, 202111:46 AM PDTUpdated 3 years ago https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bidens-big-inflation-problem-prices-are-now-up-nearly-20-since-he-took-office-080049551.html. Biden's big inflation problem: Prices are now up nearly 20% since he took office Prices as measured by the seasonally adjusted Consumer Price Index (CPI) are now up over 19.4% in the three-plus years since Biden took office. I knew you really didn't want to ask that question. But you thought you had me. Sorry to disappoint. You have not been paying attention. Many in the country did and that is why the Ds are now going to be out of power on the federal level. mspart

There were 4 initiatives on the ballot. 1. Natural gas use and provision for would not be restricted 2. Repeal the state capital gains tax 3. Make the now mandatory tax for long term care voluntary 4. Repeal the hidden gas tax that is a CO2 tax. There were 3 others that were passed by the legislature. So those are law now. Of the 4 above, only one passed. The one on natural gas. The other three were worded on the ballot in a confusing manner so that people that that by voting NO, they were passing the initiative. That is the state's fault and they didn't want any of these to pass. There was a 150 million dollar ad campaign against these initiatives as well that further confused the actual issue the initiatives were aimed at. Case in point, many ads said that repealing the CO2 tax would harm the roads and bridges by restricting access to money. The law that implemented the CO2 tax specifically says the money received from it cannot go to roads and bridges. So they lied. Similar for the others as well. So the CO2 auctions will continue and our gas, diesel, propane, and nat gas will still be one of the highest costs in the nation. Workers will still HAVE to pay for long term health care that does not follow you if you move out of state and only gives $35k total after a lifetime of giving in. The state capital gains tax stays on people that get more than $250k on capital gains. This is called an excise tax by the State Supreme Court, not income like the feds and every other state that does an income tax says. If the State Supreme Court had said it was a income tax it would have been struck down as unconstitutional to the WA constitution. So crazy stuff going on here. mspart

Hi all, Mostly being reported is the fact that Trump wants to levy tariffs on Canada, Mexico, and China. What is not being reported as much is his reasoning behind the tariffs. And what is that? He want's Canada and Mexico to stop illegal immigration into the US. He wants Mexico and China to stop feeding the fentanyl epidemic. https://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/trump-promises-a-25-tariff-on-products-from-mexico-canada Trump threatens China, Mexico, Canada with new tariffs over illegal immigration, illicit drugs https://thehill.com/policy/international/5010754-trump-tariffs-canada-trudeau/ Trudeau says he had ‘good call’ with Trump amid tariff threats https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/mexicos-new-president-pitches-delicate-balance-migration-with-trump-2024-11-20/ Sheinbaum suggested that initial calls with Trump, which she has repeatedly described as cordial, or those close to him, may indicate a lack of opposition to her ideas. "They haven't (said) anything negative related to the proposal we're making," she said. It appears that Trumps Tariffs are having the desired effect of conversations with Canada and Mexico regarding immigration. I suppose if they hold that down, the tariffs don't get put on them. Interesting play. China could stop producing fentanyl or its components and shipping them to Mexico and be off the hook as well. Again, interesting play here. The tariffs are aimed at adjusting behavior regarding immigration and fentanyl, not trade disputes. mspart

Hopefully they can extract themselves from that mindset. Obviously, voting D is not making their lives better. It took Seattle 10 years to see that. They did not vote R, they just mostly refuse to vote radical D idiots into positions of power. They have been voting in more moderate Ds that are almost reasonable. mspart

Exactly what I've been saying the left and media was doing. To anyone with any amount of intelligence, they could see through it. It took some time but it appears the voting public saw through the smoke screen of lies and inuendo. mspart

We can only hope that the people of Chicago finally wake up to what has been done to them and vote for a change in direction. mspart

I think according to the left, if you are not an expert that studies DEI you cannot say what it is or what it does. It doesn't matter if it is transparent racism and divisive at its core. If you are a human with average intelligence and can't see this, you are not using your intelligence to its potential. mspart

Sorry Rasta, but you are reading the tea leaves wrong and nothing I can say will convince you otherwise. Have a Happy Thanksgiving! mspart

https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/article-cites-elizabeth-warren-as-first-woman-of-color-hired-by-harvard-law-school A 1997 piece from the Fordham Law Review lists Massachusetts Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren as the "first woman of color" hired by Harvard Law School, according to reports. The article, which was unearthed by Politico, was titled "Intersectionality and positionality: Situating women of color in the affirmative action dialogue." The author, Laura Padilla, who now serves as the Associate Dean of California Western Law School in San Diego, CA., reportedly based her description on a phone conversation with then Harvard Law spokesman, Mike Chmura. ... "This new revelation that Harvard characterized Elizabeth Warren as a 'woman of color' in the context of affirmative action is a clear indication that something is deeply wrong" said Brown's campaign manager Jim Barnett. "As we all now know, Professor Warren is not a minority, her ridiculous claims notwithstanding. She is certainly not a 'woman of color.' This disturbing development illustrates why it is critically important that Warren, Harvard and the University of Pennsylvania stop stonewalling, release her personnel records and come clean about why Warren is continuously represented as a minority hire at these schools." So even though she denies, it appears she allowed Harvard to think she was a woman of color, why? To get and keep a job there of course. That's my opinion. But it seems well informed to me obviously. mspart

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/feb/05/elizabeth-warren-native-american-apology-bar Elizabeth Warren registered for bar as 'Native American' – report Senator Elizabeth Warren was once again forced to address her past claims of Native American heritage on Tuesday, as the Washington Post reported the senator and Democratic candidate for president listed her race as “American Indian” on her registration for the Texas state bar more than three decades ago. The yellow registration card, which is dated April 1986, was filled out in blue ink and signed by Warren, the Post reported. The paper said her office did not dispute the card’s authenticity. Short google search. mspart