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My statement was general in nature, not aimed at you specifically. BobDole, the dead senator who somehow is able to post here, is especially fond of giving me grief for this. mspart

I was harrangued for providing links to backup my claims. Now that is exactly what is being asked. This board is certainly consistent in its inconsistency. mspart

https://www.psypost.org/2022/08/new-study-helps-pinpoint-the-key-differences-between-liberals-and-progressives-in-the-united-states-63768 Is a progressive in the United States just a more extreme version of a liberal? New research suggests that is not the case. Self-described progressives and self-described liberals have significantly different views on a number of issues related to free speech, equality, diversity, and identity, according to a series of studies published in the Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin. ... “Relative to traditional liberals within the U.S. left-wing, it appears that progressives are more likely to 1) advocate for ‘Mandated Diversity’ within institutional settings, 2) show ‘Cultural Appropriation Concerns’ regarding creative expression, 3) apply ‘Public Censure’ of divergent views, and 4) are less likely to pursue a ‘Recourse to Existing Institutions’ to bring about political change,” Proulx told PsyPost. Here is another similar description of Progressive and Liberal. This makes me wonder if the D caucus in the Congress is actually more progressive than liberal. Somehow the progressives have seemed to gain the ability to run the train. The liberals are along for the ride. That's generally what I see. mspart

Ready shoot aim!! mspart

That was targeted especially for you Plasi. mspart

Well, the numbers are getting bigger. That probably a good thing for a fair amount of posters on this board. I honestly don't care if it is Jordan or anyone else on the R side. Just saying. mspart

I haven't heard that! Very interesting. mspart

I think this is mostly true. Anyone else have an opinion. mspart

Jordan is now backing McHenry as permanent temporary speaker. mspart

Dogpile is still out there. mspart

I think that may be true. mspart

Oh that was a great and disastrous picture. mspart

McD's!! The best!! mspart

That's pretty good. My Ordinary Differential Equations teacher would write an equation on the board, step back, point his hands at the board and wiggle his fingers. And then he would produce the solution. Someone asked him how he know's the solution, and his answer was, "That is beyond the scope of this class." To which we all laughed. We need to memorize how it is done and not understand it. Which is what my Dad said he had to do when he took the class. mspart

Regardless, the saying is true. mspart

Does not look fun. Like climbing Everest - no thank you. mspart

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If they legislated and governed appropriately, you are correct. mspart

This is the way I see it. Ds - They want to spend big so they can get reelected to spend more. Rs - They want the debt to be reduced but when they look around, they see that they have to spend more to get reelected. It is really the electorate that has been driving the free lunch thing and the elected officials oblige. When they don't, they get voted out. mspart

Well, my wife's Aunts jelly was not hot. My wife overdid it with the habaneros, which you could smell through the house. The house smelled dangerous, really. I tried it and it was good, but I'm not much of a jelly guy. mspart

Yep, you missed it Plasi. And it was soooooo good!! mspart

Generally this may be true. As long as there is no speaker, there is no legislating going on. No legislating is a good thing. I generally think this way. But not being able to come together on a speaker is not a good thing. What is the big deal about speaker? Just vote them in and get on with it. Would this drive me to vote D? No, it would not. mspart

He never said!! mspart

That's the issue. There is no simple decency anymore. It has to be argued about forever. mspart

I was in 20th century history in HS, the teacher was a hard nose but I did well in his class. We were looking at the Soviet bread basket, a huge area where all the food is grown. He showed a 16mm movie that detailed some of this and it was in color. I raised my hand and said that I didn't believe this was the Soviet Union because I thought it was in black and white. He gave me a pretty mean look as I was smiling at my joke. He actually was one of the best teachers I had in HS, but his manner was very intimidating. He told us that in war you don't want to get shot in the butt. It doesn't stop bleeding and you have to be on your gut while in recovery. I'm guessing he spoke from experience. Not sure. mspart