uncle bernard

i’ve answered plenty of your question. ask some more and i’ll answer.

i’ve asked you what your question is twice. and then i responded to your context critique. you’re the one not engaging now. ask the question and i’ll answer.

i did look into the context and there was an npr reporter on the scene confirming it was the israel protestor who chanted it and was booed.

what’s your question?

Northeastern shut down their protest with the claim that “kill the jews” was chanted. turns out it was pro-israel counter protestors who chanted it trying to provoke the protestors.

These idiots were so worried about squashing any pro-palestinian speech that they ended up sparking a national movement. so short sighted. A college a couple hours away passed a rule in the middle of the night banning tents in their designated free speech zone, came in with riot police and snipers and arrested everyone, gave 1 year bans to protestors (notably a prominent jewish faculty member) and guess what? the tents are back, the protest is 10x bigger, and they’ve given up trying to remove them. what did that accomplish?? idiots.

come on now lol

what’s your question?

okay anybody gonna try to defend this one?

yes i wouldn’t trade 20 civilians for 1 hamas fighter because i'm not a war criminal and that’s a war crime. i don't know what’s so hard to understand about that.

some levity lol

who on here is supporting hamas?

i’m not. i’ve explicitly condemned hamas. see, when you maintain consistent values, these gotcha attempts don’t work. you can be anti-hamas while saying israel’s military policies are wrong. the world isn’t black or white. if hamas had carried out an identical strike, we know what you would have said about it, and you’d have been right!

so close! but the correct answer was “yes”

do you condemn the relief organization strike that killed an american citizen and several others?

fine, they are targeting civilians. they know they are killing civilians. we know that because they tell us that! they consciously make the choice to kill them. who cares if they also say they’re killing someone else at the same time. they’re still pulling the trigger knowing that they’re going to kill an innocent child. look at the food workers a couple weeks. they knew those were international volunteers. they were approved and in communication with the IDF. they say they “thought” they saw a militant join the caravan. they could not confirm he was a militant or that he was even there but decided to strike the caravan (three times while victims tried to crawl to safety btw) anyway on the off chance he was. there was no militant among the dead. can you condemn that? playing rhetorical games about my use of “indiscriminate ” doesn’t change 30k+ dead civilians.

i don’t feel strongly about the second amendment. i’d prefer if we had much stronger regulations and licensing to make it harder for mentally ill, criminals, domestic abusers, etc…to get them. i’m not a take away the guns guy and if we’re being real, nobody in the current scene has a position even close to that. banning assault weapons, maybe, but nobody is coming for your handgun or hunting rifle. let’s just be real about that.

biden (and obama) certainly perpetuate this system, but i think we should also recognize the modern spy state exploded under bush and trump did nothing to roll it back either.

that’s not always what happens but if the civilians don’t leave then yes. i know this is hard to accept but the other side cheating doesn’t make it okay to mass kill civilians. if they want our tax dollars and our guns, they should follow the rules of war they agreed to.

“good faith” from the guy who says the soldiers who are killing thousands of civilians has no responsibility for their deaths. by this reasoning there is no amount of civilians that could die that would make you change your mind because it’s hamas’ fault. either their are rules of war or there aren’t. osama didn’t follow them. hamas doesn’t follow them. and neither does israel. the only difference is we acknowledge that osama and hamas are wrong.

civilians die in war. but that doesn’t mean you can indiscriminately target them. two years ago our government (correctly) was apoplectic over the Russian invasion and killing of civilians. israel killed more civilians in one month than russia did in 2 years. to be fair to you, maybe you just don’t appreciate the scale of the civilian casualties? to act like this level of casualties was unavoidable is insane. it’s a conscious choice from Israel.

2) so you simply don’t believe in the concept of war crimes? if evil people can do something, that means everyone can? i guess you and bin laden agree about 9/11. the ends always justify the means. 3) i’m sorry the country that does the actual killing of the human shields does bear responsibility. and the human shield argument itself is dubious because there are 2 million people packed into a tiny strip of land. where are they supposed to go? israel’s bombed every “safe zone” it told them to go to. and anybody who wants to be intellectually honest knows they aren’t trying to avoid civilian casualties. as you all always scream “hamas is in the tunnels!” yes, and israel knows that. so who do they think they’re killing when they strike residential buildings? civilians. children. all while minimally hurting hamas. because the goal is to destroy Palestine, not just hamas. hamas is israel’s best friend (which is why they funded them in the first place). as long as they have a bogeyman to point to, they can keep slowly strangling Palestine, expanding illegal settlements until eventually they’ll have ethnically cleansed the whole place.

2) no that’s the standard every country should be held to. and the only reason it’s not is because the US has veto power in the UN and is the global superpower. two wrongs don’t make a right. and yes, hamas also commits war crimes! but we’re not funding and supporting hamas. i would hope we agree we should hold our allies to a higher standard than a terrorist group. i constantly have to say i don’t support hamas, but none of you ever admit that israel has done *anything* wrong in this conflict. so who is the fundamentalist here?