uncle bernard

You can keep saying this, but it doesn't make it true. Since 2017, Hamas' official charter endorses the existence of a Palestinian state with the 1967 borders, which implicitly acknowledges Israel's continued existence as a state next door. And that's Hamas, the most extreme faction in the Palestinian resistance. Your information is outdated. Maybe if Palestinians were white, you'd actually see them as humans.

For pointing out Willie only cares when white people die? The nerve!

From the river to the sea is also in the official Likud platform, so I guess that does mean Israel is committing genocide after all, right?

Genocide scholars around the world, including those in Israel, have reached a near consensus: Yes. Israeli Genocide Scholar, Schmuel Lederman, rejected the genocide label last year. Now, he's changed his mind. The evidence is now undeniable. https://www.commondreams.org/news/israel-is-committing-genocide-in-gaza Israeli scholar Shmuel Lederman of Open University of Israel "opposed the genocide label" until Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's government flouted the International Court of Justice's January 2024 order to prevent genocide by allowing emergency aid into Gaza and halting top officials "incendiary language on Palestinians." Israeli leaders have called Palestinians "human animals" and "Amalek"—an ancient enemy in the Hebrew Bible who Israelites were commanded to exterminate. Lederman also began to see his government as genocidal after the Israel Defense Forces seized control of the Rafah crossing last year, cutting off the only humanitarian aid route as international experts warned famine was imminent, and as analysts warned the true death toll in Gaza could ultimately be close to 200,000. "For me personally, the combination of this and the continued destruction of Gaza made the turn from harsh criticism of the crimes Israel is committing in Gaza and warnings that we are getting close to that place, to the perception that the cumulative effect of what Israel is doing in Gaza is genocidal in every sense," said Lederman on the social media platform X on Thursday. "I think the second half of 2024 is the point at which a consensus emerged among genocide researchers (as well as the human rights community) that this was genocide. Those who may have still had doubts—I estimate that they have dissipated following Israel's actions since the cease-fire was broken."

@Husker_Du has time to suspend posters he disagrees with, but not explain why 30 dead white people constitute a "genocide" while 50,000+ arabs don't.

snowflake gonna snowflake. half the people on this thread have cheered the death of 50,000 people, but it's Viking who has no "decency."

I didn't realize only American lives matter. More moral bankruptcy from the brain.

Modern strategy. Hamas didn't exist then.

Right and I responded to that objection by clarifying I was giving a gloss, then provided the actual quotes. Obviously, "genocide" is my description of the conflict. Other than that, what do you disagree with? Did they not explicitly say they're providing the bare minimum aid to allow them to keep bombing and then ethnically cleanse Gaza?

Can you point to the quotes to support this interpretation? (I know the answer lol)

did the person carrying out a genocide say "genocide?" no, lol. that would be a confession. you're not THAT stupid are you?

What's your interpretation? Seems pretty clear to me they're saying "we can't continue the war unless we give our Western backers enough cover by providing the *bare minimum* amount of food to prevent a famine." If you disagree, please provide an alternative.

Correct, I should have said it was a gloss. But that was what they meant. You're welcome to give your own interpretation of the following. Here are Netanyahu's words: "We're going to take control of all the Gaza Strip,” Netanyahu vowed Monday in a video released by his office announcing that Israel would begin delivering “minimal humanitarian aid: food and medicine only.” Netanyahu claimed that international pressure, including from pro-Israel Republican senators and the White House, required the appearance of humanitarian intervention. "Our best friends in the world—senators I know as strong supporters of Israel—have warned that they cannot support us if images of mass starvation emerge," he said. “They come to me and say, ‘We’ll give you all the help you need to win the war… but we can’t be receiving pictures of famine,’” Netanyahu added. To continue the war of annihilation, he asserted, “We need to do it in a way that they won't stop us.” Here are Smotrich's words: Smotrich said the aid scheme would allow “our friends in the world to continue to provide us with an international umbrella of protection against the Security Council and the Hague Tribunal, and for us to continue to fight, God willing, until victory.” In what he described as an emergency press conference to address criticism from his own base, Smotrich laid out the Netanyahu government’s genocidal agenda and explained why the appearance of allowing aid is necessary on a strategic level. “The [aid] that will enter Gaza in the coming days is the tiniest amount. A handful of bakeries that will hand out pita bread to people in public kitchens. People in Gaza will get a pita and a food plate, and that's it. Exactly what we are seeing in the videos: people standing in line and waiting to have someone serve them, with some soup plate,” Smotrich said. “Truth be told, until the last of the hostages returns, we should also not let water into the Gaza Strip. But the reality is that if we do that, the world will force us to halt the war immediately, and to lose. It would be winning the battle, and losing the war. I'm committed to winning the war,” Smotrich declared. “We are disassembling Gaza, and leaving it as piles of rubble, with total destruction [which has] no precedent globally. And the world isn't stopping us. There are pressures. There are those who attack [us]; they are trying to [make us] stop; they are not succeeding. You know why they aren't succeeding? Because we are navigating [the campaign] responsibly and wisely, and that's how we'll continue to do [it]." Smotrich said that the Israeli forces are initiating a campaign to force Palestinians into the south of Gaza “and from there, God willing, to third countries, as part of President Trump's plan. This is a change of the course of history—nothing less.”

The murder of anybody, white or black, farmer or non-farmer, in South Africa is a problem. South Africa has a very high murder rate, over 26,000 last year. The TAU (Tranvaal Agricultural Union), which represents farmers, reports that 32 people were killed in farm attacks last year - 23 white, 9 black. The American right consistently points to these attacks as "White Genocide." They point to the anti-apartheid song "Kill the Boer" (which should be retired) as inciting violence. My question for you is: Why do these 32 murders - 30% of which were not even white - constitute a genocide, while the 50,000+ Palestinians killed in Gaza, over a third of which are children, do not constitute a genocide? (Note: the death toll is estimated to be even higher due to tens of thousands of missing Gazans presumed to be buried under the rubble) @Husker_Du I've seen you talk about the South African "White Genocide" several times. Can you please explain?

If this is the standard, wait until you find out about Israelis. Just this week, Netanyahu and Smotrich had to calm their supporters after letting a limited number of food trucks into Gaza by explicitly telling them "if we don't make these small symbolic gestures, the West will make us stop the genocide and we won't get Gaza."

1) This was wrong and should be roundly condemned. The man should be charged and tried with murder. I am very consistent about this. Two wrongs don't make a right. 2) This is bad for Palestine. This undercuts the growing peace movement in the West and will justify more extreme and illegal censorship. Palestinian resistance groups, including Hamas, are very intentional about only conducting military operations within the borders of historic Palestine. They want to emphasize that their struggle is defensive and about restoring their homeland. They do not target outside of Israel. They would not sanction this kind of attack. My question is why are YOU guys upset? By Israel's own well-established standards, both these people were legitimate targets in an active war.

The funny thing is he didn't even really do this, at least not nearly to the extent that he could have and many of his colleagues did. He just did it for the love of the game.

The one saving grace of the election result is that history will view Joe Biden as it should - a bad person whose entire political career was devoted to making things worse.

The Pentagon/Military is by far the largest source of waste and corruption in the government. DOGE isn't likely to look very closely, and they haven't so far, because Musk's companies hold major contracts with the Pentagon. So you have a government agency that's supposed to eliminate waste and corruption, but has totally ignored the largest source of waste and corruption because the head of the agency is himself involved in that waste and corruption.

1) Still haven't found any fraud. Fraud is not "stuff I disagree with." 2) If he was actually serious about cutting waste, he'd start at the Pentagon. I won't hold my breath considering Musk is a major Pentagon contractor. Corruption for me, but not for thee.

one day, maybe in a distant future, you'll be able to write a complete and coherent sentence.

Would really love for our resident conservatives to weigh in on this. As has now been shown 86-46 was already an established Trump supporter phrase against Biden. If Comey needs to be punished, shouldn't all those people also be punished. Comey was never in the military, but Posobiec (quoted above) was! If Comey was threatening death, shouldn't Posobiec be prosecuted for the same thing? OR we can all try to be normal for once and understand the phrase "86" by its most commonly understood meaning - to throw out.

Sure, FBI should investigate, but what happened to conservatives complaining about safe spaces and "derangement syndrome?" Anybody who's worked in a restaurant knows "86" either means we're out of this particular food, or more likely in this specific usage," somebody got kicked out and is banned from the premises. That's likely what Comey meant. Incredibly stupid thing to post knowing that Trump has no qualms about going after political enemies. Just opening yourself up to prosecution, regardless of what you meant.

He, quite literally, suffered traumatic brain damage and became conservative. He's actually the perfect metaphor for modern America lol.