uncle bernard

You think these students are terrorists? Is vandalism an act of terror now? What would you call the Jan 6th protestors?

keep shifting the goal posts

That's a great story to tell yourself. Doesn't change the fact that they arrested the students.

They arrested a bunch of them. Unfortunately, that doesn't fit your agenda.

Do you think any critique of Israel is terrorism? Again, if that's the definition you want to use so you can do whatever you want to political opponents, that's fine. Just don't be surprised if a Democrat wins in 2028 and starts treating Trump supporters as terrorists. It cuts both ways.

Okay, and I'm pointing out that the ones being deported were not involved, yet you keep posting videos of the vandalism as if that means anything.

In regards to 10, it's so nebulous that it can be applied to anything. The administration is arguing that verbal critique of Israel constitutes material support for Hamas. That's insane. lhan Omar might consider white, gun-owning conservatives to be part of or have ties to domestic terror organizations. That doesn't mean she should try to deport every white, gun owning conservative on that fact alone. They need to break an actual rule, as @mspart correctly pointed out complaining about Biden (who didn't even actually do anything, but set that aside). For example, if the Biden administration tried to deport a white, conservative international student from Hungary simply because he joined the Proud Boys (or insert any far-right group), that would be wrong. Having principles isn't actually that hard.

Yet, the students being deported are not being accused of that. Rubio throws that in there to get people like you to associate every student deported for political reasons with the students who did break the law at Columbia. If they broke the law or school rules, that could be a reason to revoke Visa status. But again, they have not been accused of doing that.

This may blow your mind, but not every pro-Palestine protestor participated in those events.

1) The reason Rubio gave is definitionally political - 'social activist.' If they committed a crime, they should be charged and tried. They have not - because many of the students being deported weren't involved in any of the trespassing or destruction of property. 2) Of course. Tons of people are living here illegally. When have I said otherwise?

Obviously, he should be brought home and have his day in court, but the issue is far larger than Garcia himself. There is no debate on this: the administration broke the law. There must be accountability for that or they'll keep doing it.

Marco Rubio explicitly told you why he revoked them. "We gave you a visa to come and study and get a degree, not to become a social activist that tears up our university campus. We've given you a visa and you decide to do that — we're going to take it away," An illegal resident is a non-citizen living here without permission of the government. I think a fourth grader could probably have figured that out on their own, but happy to help.

What are you even babbling about now? My dog has more object permanence than you.

The vast majority of them did and none of the ones being deported are charged, or even accused, of crimes. Of course, this is the point of the exercise. The Trump admin wants to get rid of due process for political enemies. They are starting with immigrants. We're next.

No, but having a student visa does. That is the literal definition of a visa. They were approved to live and attend school here. They did not break the law. Their visas were revoked because they have different politics than the administration. The only difference between this and what @Scouts Honor posted is that something actually happened to these people. They were, in @mspart words, targeted for non-criminal behavior, which he says is bad! I look forward to him condemning Trump as the most anti-free speech president in the history of the country.

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/08/nx-s1-5349472/students-protest-trump-free-speech-arrests-deportation-gaza "We gave you a visa to come and study and get a degree, not to become a social activist that tears up our university campus. We've given you a visa and you decide to do that — we're going to take it away," Rubio said in a recent news conference. None of these students has been charged with a crime. Instead, the government is using a rarely invoked immigration act that allows the secretary of state to revoke immigration status if the secretary deems their presence a threat to U.S. foreign policy.

You mean like deporting legal residents because they legally protested against Israel?

"Ilhan Omar was mean to a reporter" brought to you by the guys who say "you don't hate the media enough!"

Perhaps the most ironic statement ever uttered on this forum lol

Yes, now that we’ve established both want to ethnically cleanse the other, we can stop pretending this is one sided and actually focus on stopping these people from killing each other.

"between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty." - Likud Party Platform (Majority party in Israel) “And therefore I clarify that in any other arrangement, in the future, the state of Israel has to control the entire area from the river to the sea.” - Benjamin Netanyahu, Prime Minister of Israel

Wait until you hear what the Israeli public thinks about killing Palestinians. Keep advocating for the slaughter of civilians and one day it might come back to bite you. Empire always comes home.

Because they don't want to help Israel ethnically cleanse Palestine. Half the current population of Gaza wasn't even alive when this vote took place, but you think they should be killed or ethnically cleansed because a minority of Gazans voted for Hamas 20 years ago. You better hope your moral code is never applied to you.

Thank you for showing that what I said was correct. Most Gazans voted against Hamas the only time they were able to vote.