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Embarrassing. I tagged the wrong Bernie. It gets worse. I didn't recognize there was more than one Bernie account. I've been confused as to why 'Bernie' was posting differently than 'Bernie.' I was an idiot, and I apologize for being an idiot.

It isn't stalling by bottom when overpowered by top. But what about when bottom stops attempting aggressive action to score (perhaps because they lack the skill to score) or they are in turtle mode to avoid top action? Still boots in situation...

What if 'looking busy' by playing with wrists is part of securing the riding time point?

Can the losing wrestler be called for stalling?

Is securing and controlling an ankle considered aggressive wrestling before the riding point is secure, but is the same action considered stalling when additional riding points are not possible?

When bottom lets top get in the double boots, and bottom lets top extend them on their belly, and top is working powerhalfs while bottom is squirming, grunting, and hoping for a stalemate... who is stalling?

My goddaughter took second place at state last year after losing to the same girl for the third time by a single point. She said that the top girl was stalling because she just sat on an ankle while on top. Last night, we talked about why you let her hook the ankle to begin with. Then we drilled two ways to get your ankle free... Thanks for the right mindset, Pat!

I don't know that Nick Lee beats Vazgen Tevanyan.

Who can really know how a person treats their family in the privacy of their own home? The 'perfect' outward-facing family with matching clothes that go to Christian church each week, with the Mensa 10-year-old, had an accidental butt dial with me one day before school. I hear multiple children cussing and calling their siblings names. I hear Dad say, "Drown that bitch." They don't have any pets, but they did have a young daughter. My wife stumbled on Mom scolding the children about how stupid they were with cuss words when she thought nobody was around. This family was with a baseball team I coached... So no, I can't tell you how my colleague treats people in privacy. I know how he treats women in public, including a retirement age Morman and younger ladies in their 20s. I know he treated his wife well when I had dinner at their home. His young kid's faces light up around him, and the kids attend public school. I have worked with and managed Muslims (and Hindus) for years in the US and India... the colleague is one I hired and got to know a little better. I know he and other people with brown skin fear for their safety in rural America. We wouldn't last long in Gaza, just as we wouldn't last long around the regions where the 'Christian' Lord's Resistance Army operates. Did you know that 18% of Israeli citizens are Muslim? https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/israel/ https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/what-know-about-arab-citizens-israel Religions Jewish 73.5%, Muslim 18.1%, Christian 1.9%, Druze 1.6%, other 4.9% (2022 est.)

I learned something today.

After 9/11, my interactions with Muslims opened my eyes to a different perspective. I've worked alongside a Muslim colleague for over a decade, and I envy his kindness and humility. He represents one of the billions who adhere to the fundamental tenets of Islam, pray regularly, and harbor no intolerance to non-Muslims. Similar to the Quran, there are controversial passages within the Hebrew and Christian Bibles that extremists interpret to rationalize violence. Some extremist groups lay claim to Christianity, yet the majority view Christianity as a religion that promotes peace. More than 120 scholars have attested to Islam's core message of peace. Understanding the nuances of religious texts is complex, especially when coupled with sociopolitical issues that can lead to violence. Some of y'all are making misguided generalizations about Muslims. I think this comes from America's indoctrination, as well as the mental shortcuts and cognitive biases that prevent nuanced understanding of different viewpoints, like those shared by @BerniePragle.

What does Chad in Virginia think?

What makes you think I'm upset? For clarity through example of outlier... I don't want to discuss how every employee, regardless of their actual work or contribution, is paid the same salary, whether a high-performing professional or an employee in a deep and uninterrupted coma. This is draining... Blue, huh? You're such an idiot. Of course, you hate red because you are a jerk and privileged. Brilliant TPT. Always a pleasure.

I said luck plays into it... safety net plays into it... hard work plays into it... and life is expensive. Not enough can be said about character... The early bird gets the worm. The harder I work, the luckier I get. Opportunities are usually disguised as hard work, so most people don't recognize them.

What?

@BobDole how do you know what @Offthemat meant with this post? @Offthemat - what are intending to communicate?

Regardless of my viewpoints, I appreciate passionate, well-worded opinions and expertise. Testify indeed.

I hope the hospital across the street is 'in network.'

It was the men's choice to accept the benefits against the risks; they put in the work and took advantage of the opportunity. There is much positive to be said and had for joining the military... Both my mother and MIL worked during the day and went to night school to earn nursing degrees. I recall my mother bringing me to some of her classes. My eldest sister was an unhappy SAHM with four children and chose divorce. She joined another family with her four children to split rent on a house. While on government assistance, she used grants and loans to put herself through college. She has a good and stable salary now... Granted, my kin had access to education, family, and neighborhoods that helped create access to the opportunity. Sure, education, family, and neighborhoods affect social mobility. There are other 'luck' considerations that impact raising one's social mobility... but in the US... hard work goes a long way to overcoming hard luck. Hard work... The USA doesn't care how hard you work; it pays for performance. When the consumer purchases a car, factors like employee effort and work hours are not considered. Rather, decisions are based on quality, cost, and availability. So how does the employee generate quality? They either have the rare skill to work smarter, or they choose to work harder. The employee who works smarter or harder than his peers will find himself with better luck. Don't have the energy to discuss the edge cases. But ***duck**. Hard work's separation isn't enough anymore for those that 'have' let alone those that don't. Life is expensive.

There is tremendous support for education to teach finance. It isn't cake, it's meat and potatoes.

More from Pat Milkovich In the body of my response, being on your stomach is one of the prime reasons one gets "ridden," or turned. Why is he on his stomach to begin with? There are a multitude of methods to prevent that. Virtually everything in wrestling has a stimulus/response mechanism involved, called "setups." There are setups to takedowns, setups for riding, mat returns, breakdowns, pinning, escaping, and reversals, etc. Once a wrestler understands those processes, it rarely matters whether he is on top, bottom, or neutral. The S/R methods all share commonalities between humans and they are predictable. Trying to adequately explain, verbally, the techniques of riding is extremely challenging. Top and bottom wrestling are the most difficult aspects of wrestling to learn and to teach. It's becoming a lost art and I understand why so many coaches and wrestlers like freestyle. It’s way easier. Consequently, it's why I love folkstyle, a wrestler can't be good in just one facet, he has to exhibit comprehension and competency in all three facets. On bottom, one of the important techniques is to keep your hands/wrists free. Watch the NCAA's and notice how many wrestlers break down to an elbow while on bottom. Big NO, NO. Wrists are begging to be controlled. Stay off your elbows, keep your hands/wrists free, stay off your belly, and you've just gotten light years better from bottom. Riding or controlling the bottom man doesn't mean you grow roots on his ankle or stay stuck in one position. The true art of top wrestling is learning to change off, switch sides, and work the bottom man from head to ankles, while making him carry your weight, keeping him out of balance, and creating pressures and torques to make him use more of his strength and energy to neutralize or counteract all the forces. You and others may call it stalling, but it isn't. It has a cumulative effect on the bottom man's stamina and psyche. He's not scoring points, times ticking down, he's frustrated, fighting hard wasting energy and getting tired, top guy is gaining a point, and you're in his head because he knows he can't get out unless you let him out. If/when he does get out, his reactions may be slower because he wasted so much energy on bottom...and your'e still in his head with riding time. Many times in close matches with quality kids, the determining factor its RT. That's why RT is an asset to the sport. No one should be given a free out or up, just because he can't do it himself. If he doesn't like being on bottom, learn to get out and you are now in your desired "neutral." If someone can dominate you on top, he deserves some reward. Appropriately, that is riding time, control time, you suck on bottom time... call it whatever, but the top guy should not be penalized and taken out of a position of dominance/control and put on his feet just because the bottom man is inept. That's actually a form of "income inequality." There are plenty of lousy bottom wrestlers who can't get out but are difficult to turn because they've spent so much time there. So RT is his penalty and top's reward.

Pat Milkovich I have to respectfully disagree with the comments that it is somehow the top man's stalling that's keeping the bottom man down or makes wrestling boring. At what point does it become the bottom man's responsibility to control that position. I was taught that being on bottom was my opportunity to score points and to limit the top man's accumulation of riding time control and either get me to neutral or reverse him. I also learned that, just like on the feet for TD's, there are things I can do on bottom to create setups and counters that allow me to escape or reverse in a short amount of time, regardless of the top guy's tactics. It doesn't matter if the top man catches/rides ankles, puts in legs, spirals, or whatever. My first responsibility is prevention (i.e., movement or standup on the whistle and establishing hand control) and then it's countering. When you are lousy on bottom, it makes the top man's job much easier. Just like when you are lousy on top. It makes the bottom man's job much easier to get out. When you get broken down to your stomach, break down to your elbows, let your wrists/ankles get tied up, don't control his hands/wrists, don't create movement/get to your feet, get hip separation, or let a guy get legs in...that's your fault or your coach's fault...yours for either not having learned/drilled the techniques necessary for success or your coach's for not having taught you those techniques needed to succeed. I just find it utterly amazing that instead of learning all the different methods that would help one on bottom, then the discussion turns to eliminating those positions or requirements. You want more action in the top/bottom positions? Award 1 pt or every 30 seconds of RT. That would force both wrestlers to be incredibly more active. As some of you folks ponder criticizing/reacting to my opinion/perspective, be careful that you don't walk into a setup.

It does predate it. https://web.archive.org/web/20040625203630/http://www.thematforums.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=32219 Mugatu in 2004. I really enjoyed the Smarty Jones era

It is many different people and likely predates the last website iteration. GuillermoBilletas has the earliest college post found in March 2013. i really enjoyed the Rutgers era DF has the earliest international post found in September 2013. I really enjoyed the olympic wrestling era

There is a difference between teaching financial education as a core curriculum and having concerns over teaching money-making through the Silk Road.