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Greatest 3xer of the Wrestlestat era
Wrestleknownothing replied to Wrestleknownothing's topic in College Wrestling
One other thing I failed to explain is the rank stats. These are the average wrestlestat ranks of the opponents that each wrestler pinfell, TF'ed, and MD'ed. A lower average value means that the wrestler beat tougher competition, in the sense that WrestleStat has/had the competition ranked higher. For example, Spencer Lee pinned guys with an average rank of 50 while Kyle Snyder was pinning lower ranked competition. The good news is that no one can argue with WrestleStat rankings. -
Greatest 3xer of the Wrestlestat era
Wrestleknownothing replied to Wrestleknownothing's topic in College Wrestling
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Greatest 3xer of the Wrestlestat era
Wrestleknownothing replied to Wrestleknownothing's topic in College Wrestling
Thank you. TFs? Were all the losses decisions? -
Greatest 3xer of the Wrestlestat era
Wrestleknownothing replied to Wrestleknownothing's topic in College Wrestling
Wrestlingstats Okie State data is only through 2012. Dieringer was a freshman in 2013. WrestleStat starts in 2014. Sigh. -
Greatest 3xer of the Wrestlestat era
Wrestleknownothing replied to Wrestleknownothing's topic in College Wrestling
Ask and ye shall receive. The percentages are now: Percentage of all matches won by pinfall, Percentage of all matches not won by pinfall that were won by tech fall, Percentage of all matches not won by pinfall or tech fall that were won by major decision -
Greatest 3xer of the Wrestlestat era
Wrestleknownothing replied to Wrestleknownothing's topic in College Wrestling
*except for that time Captain America lost his mighty shield. -
Greatest 3xer of the Wrestlestat era
Wrestleknownothing replied to Wrestleknownothing's topic in College Wrestling
interesting -
Greatest 3xer of the Wrestlestat era
Wrestleknownothing replied to Wrestleknownothing's topic in College Wrestling
Oh that I could get his freshman stats. Wrestlingstats comes up one year short and WrestleStat starts one year too late. Any chance you have those or know where I can find them? -
Greatest 3xer of the Wrestlestat era
Wrestleknownothing replied to Wrestleknownothing's topic in College Wrestling
fight, fight, fight. -
Greatest 3xer of the Wrestlestat era
Wrestleknownothing replied to Wrestleknownothing's topic in College Wrestling
meh. someone who is dominant on top gets a lot of pinfalls and tech falls. Jason Nolf has more. -
Greatest 3xer of the Wrestlestat era
Wrestleknownothing replied to Wrestleknownothing's topic in College Wrestling
dipshiz, idiots, fools and know nothings. -
US Open - April 26th-30th, 2023
Wrestleknownothing replied to nhs67's topic in International Wrestling
also interesting that he is going 70kg. -
Inspired by @Jamie_Taco on this Taco Tuesday (guess what I am having for dinner tonight?) I thought I would take a look at the 3xers in the WrestleStat era (2014 - present). That list includes J'Den Cox, Kyle Snyder, Zain Retherford, Jason Nolf, Bo Nickal, and Spencer Lee. Sorry Alex Dieringer. You had the misfortune of starting your college career one year before Greg Anderson started his wrestling statistical career. Editor's Note: Can I get an amen for WrestleStat? What an invaluable resource. Because I have to number everything to death, let's start with the numbers. I tried to use every part of the WrestleStat for this, partly because I could and partly because everyone has a favorite thing they like to argue for when arguing for their man. For some it is about counting stats, for others it is about rates, or dominance, or international achievements, or the eye test. Wins They say the greatest ability is availability. You have to be in it to win it. And a bunch of other clichés. But it is hard to argue with Zain Retherford's 123 wins (and 92 in a row). That said you can through a hat around four of the six with Jason Nolf at 115, and J'Den Cox / Bo Nickal at 120. J'Den Cox's 5 loses probably knocks him down a peg, but the difference is pretty small. Pinfalls (you heard me, @ionel) While Spencer Lee has a reputation for pinning, and pinning fast, the clear leader here is Jason Nolf. Not only does he have the most pinfalls, he has the highest percentage of pinfalls, with a whopping 51% of his matches ending with someone (not him) looking at the lights. Sure he took a minute longer on average than Spencer Lee, but I do not think that is the true headline stat here. I also think you have to ding Spencer for getting pinned twice whereas none of the other five suffered a similar fate. NCAA Points Again with Jason Nolf. Racking up 98 tournament points is pretty insane. Someone with the bonus point chops of Bo "HE HAS THE CHIN" Nickal could not keep pace. What hope does anyone else have? Hardware In footie, they say it is all about the hardware. How many trophies did you win? That is all that matters. Well, they each won three individual titles, so...push. But, Zain Retherford and Spencer Lee say they are having a hard time reading this post because all of the glare coming off of their two Hodge Trophies each. Bo Nickal is looking sheepishly at Jason Nolf wondering how his teammate has none. Hardware - part 2 J'Den Cox is laughing at me at this point. Hey, dummy, ever heard of the Olympics? Even if I had a Hodge it would just be a medal stand for my Olympic bronze. Hardware - part 3 Kyle Snyder says hold my beer. Editors Other Note: I am reminded of a cleaned up version of a joke I heard. Three guys enter a wrestling tournament. One wins his weight by coming from behind in every match to pinfall his opponent. One wins his weight by never giving up a single point, escape or otherwise. One wins his weight by TFing every opponent as he plays with his food. Who is the most outstanding wrestler? The one with the Olympic gold medal, of course. Tangible Intangibles Gentlemen, state your case. Spencer Lee - "I have negative one healthy knees." Kyle Snyder - "I effectively wrestled up a weight, give me a break with these soulless stats." J'Den Cox - "There was a good chance I would be dehydrated every match and slip in a pool of my own making." Bo Nickal - "I've got your Carver Curse right here." Jason Nolf - "I have to live every day with the shame of Kyle Todrank dancing on me. KYLE. TODRANK." Another way to look at things is to rank them against each other, a normalization of sorts. Summing things up this way assumes that all of this stuff matters (and only this stuff), and all of it matters equally. I think it is fair to say neither of those are accurate statements. So who ya got? For my money I rank them as follows: Kyle Snyder, Zain Retherford, Bo Nolf, Jason Nickal, J'Den Cox, Spencer Lee.
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Could you guys restate your positions? I think I may have missed them.
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Nagao going to announce Iowa commitment tonight
Wrestleknownothing replied to Jimmy Cinnabon's topic in College Wrestling
Only you start a new thread when YOU already started a thread on the same topic. I wonder why you annoy people? -
More House Cleaning at Cable News
Wrestleknownothing replied to RYou's topic in Non Wrestling Topics
And sometimes people cynically see an opportunity to exploit fear and paranoia for profit. And sometimes they identify a target they think is small and inconsequential that they can exploit with their bully pulpit. And sometimes they go too far. And sometimes they get sued for their cynical actions and find themselves facing consequences. And sometimes they settle those lawsuits for 787.5 million reasons of their own. And sometimes their audience of fearful paranoids chooses to ignore all of this because the alternative, admitting they have been lied to for profit, is too painful to accept. Sometimes. -
More House Cleaning at Cable News
Wrestleknownothing replied to RYou's topic in Non Wrestling Topics
Your childlike innocence is compelling so it pains me to do this, but apparently he did not believe the election was stolen, as revealed in his private communications, at the same time that he promoted the lie on his show. I wept for the truth when I learned it too. I hope you have clutchable pearls nearby. -
More House Cleaning at Cable News
Wrestleknownothing replied to RYou's topic in Non Wrestling Topics
He lied to enrich himself. He is a failure. Albeit a very wealthy failure. -
When do ADs start negotiating an NIL detente?
Wrestleknownothing replied to Powershouse's topic in College Wrestling
Funny (?) story. I had business with a Chicago cop decades ago. He gave me a get out of jail free card. Then he said I couldn't use it for murder or anything like that. I still have that card in my glove box. -
When do ADs start negotiating an NIL detente?
Wrestleknownothing replied to Powershouse's topic in College Wrestling
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2023 Transfer Portal
Wrestleknownothing replied to Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan's topic in College Wrestling
That one confused me too. -
Upon the Death of Folksyle
Wrestleknownothing replied to ILLINIWrestlingBlog's topic in College Wrestling
I love the lean into it. In that vein... When your objection is the cutlery, you have no objection. -
More House Cleaning at Cable News
Wrestleknownothing replied to RYou's topic in Non Wrestling Topics
Not if he was fired for cause. I look forward to the lawsuits. -
2023 Transfer Portal
Wrestleknownothing replied to Indiana-Hawk-Wrestling-Fan's topic in College Wrestling
Seth Nevills to Maryland. https://www.collegian.psu.edu/sports/wrestling/former-penn-state-wrestling-heavyweight-seth-nevills-announces-transfer-commitment-to-maryland/article_856e42be-e1fd-11ed-920e-3b196c1fc067.html -
More House Cleaning at Cable News
Wrestleknownothing replied to RYou's topic in Non Wrestling Topics
By truth AI service do you mean Truth Social?