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This would make dual scoring much closer to tournament scoring. You could win a dual with just a few dominant wrestlers. Some may have a problem with that less for tradition reasons and more for "upsets are fun" reasons.

Though my all-time favorite bracket is still 115 lbs in 1929. Dell Shockley of Oklahoma State went 0-2 to finish third. Of course, it was a three man bracket. He got a bye to the final where he lost. He then lost in the true second place match. Dell Shockley does not appear again at the NCAA tournament. Even though he and I have won the same number of NCAA tournament matches, he is forever an All-American and I am forever not.

And I find it endlessly entertaining that Earl McCready only had to win 8 matches to win 3 titles.

There were so many scoring rule changes that it is indeed difficult to do without context.

It is not too much trouble, especially since you asked so nicely. Top 10 By Total Bonus Points Scored: Top 10 By Bonus Points Per Year: Top 10 By Bonus Points Per Match:

We need a Vak Attack.

Ahh. I missed that it is the institution clause. Here is the student athlete clause. As you suspected, it mirrors the instituion language: 17.28.5.2 Maximum Limitations -- Student-Athlete. An individual student-athlete may participate in each academic year in not more than 16 dates of competition in men's wrestling, which may include not more than two occasions in which a multiple-day event or two consecutive dual meets are held within three consecutive days that shall each count as a single date of competition (see Bylaw 17.28.5.1.1). This limitation includes those dates of competition in which the student represents the institution in accordance with Bylaw 17.02.8, including competition as a member of the varsity, junior varsity or freshman team of the institution. (Revised: 1/10/91 effective 8/1/91, 1/10/95 effective 8/1/95, 1/14/97 effective 8/1/97, 1/14/08 effective 8/1/08, 5/1/19 effective 8/1/19, 6/23/20 effective 8/1/20)

I found this. too. Based on this it looks like the Collegiate Duals are considered a single date of competition. 17.28.5.1.1 Multiple-Day Competition and Dual Meets Within Three Consecutive Days. On not more than two occasions, an institution may count a multiple-day competition or two consecutive dual meets as one date of competition, if the following requirements are met: (Adopted: 6/20/11, Revised: 5/1/19 effective 8/1/19) (a) The multiple-day competition or two consecutive dual meets occur within three consecutive days; and (b) The institution participates in not more than one multiple-day event or not more than two dual meets during the three consecutive days. Rules written in a way only a lawyer could love.

You misspelled Burwikk.

A little Trivia In 2013 Northwestern scored 32.5 team points without scoring a single bonus point. That is the highest team score with zero bonus points in my sample. From 2017 - 2022 no team with zero bonus points scored double digit team points. 2017 PSU edges 2018 Iowa 32.5 to 30.5 for most bonus points in the period. PSU had 5 MD, 9 1.5 TF, and 7 Pinfalls. Iowa had 6 MD, 3 1.5 TF, and 10 Pinfalls.

I finally got around to estimating bonus points. Emphasis on estimating. I found the final team scores from 2013 - 2022 on the Penn State Wrestling Club website. I joined those with my team by team estimates of advancement points and actual placement points to come up with a team by team, year by year estimate of how many bonus points were scored. Because my advancement points are only estimated I wound up with a handful of negative bonus point situations. I used a very sophisticated method of changing my estimated advancement so that bonus was no longer negative (aka The Torture the Numbers Until They Speak Principal). Most of these "corrections/re-estimations" were 0.5 points with the occasional full point or point and a half. Because any individual entry might be off a tad I will stick with summary level data.

I started a new thread because of what you said about Haines' last chance to wrestle attached. Hasn't he only used 4 of 5? I am assuming the first day of Collegiate Duals only counts as one.

I do not think the answer is three, but I am not sure if it is one or two. The new by-law reads: 12.8.3.1.7 Exception -- Men's Wrestling. In men's wrestling, a student-athlete representing a Division I institution may compete in up to five dates of competition during the student-athlete's initial year of collegiate enrollment without using a season of competition. Competition in a conference championship tournament, the NCAA Division I Wrestling Championships, or any other season-ending championship event shall not be exempted from counting as a season of competition. So a freshman is allow five "dates of competition" without using a year of eligibility. The definition of a date of competition is: 17.02.5 Date of Competition. A date of competition is a single date on which any game(s), match(es), meet(s), exhibition(s), scrimmage(s) or joint practice session(s) with another institution's team takes place, regardless of its formality, between an intercollegiate athletics team or individual representing a member institution and any other team or individual not representing the intercollegiate athletics program of the same member institution. (Revised: 1/10/91) And 17.02.7 Date of Competition, Countable, Individual Student-Athlete. A countable date of competition for an individual student-athlete is any date on which a student-athlete competes while representing the institution (see Bylaw 17.02.8) individually or as a member of the varsity, subvarsity or freshman team, unless a specific exemption for a particular date of competition is set forth in this bylaw. So date of competition can have more than one match and still count as one toward the 12.8.3.1.7 Exception. By that measure I think the Collegiate Duals should count as two dates of competition, not three. Two duals one day (first "date of competition") and one dual the next day (second "date of competition"). Does anyone know if that interpretation is correct?

The conceit that what Flo puts out are NOT predictions is what is rank.

Don't project your insecurities on me.

You are looking at it all wrong. Over the course of two months Iowa State has improved their total by 26 points while Penn State has added a measly 6.57, for a 19.43 net point gain for ISU. Right now ISU trails PSU by 38.3 points. So, ISU only needs four more months to pass PSU. If ISU can conspire to delay the 2023 NCAA tournament to April 27 then they will 100% be champions. It's just math.

Top 10 and Bottom 10 Changes in Expected Points since the pre-season ranks came out. Iowa State is hard charging for a spot on the podium. Meanwhile, injuries and transfers take their toll on ASU and Wyoming, respectively.

Now that Intermat, Flo, and Wrestlestat have each updated their rankings to include results at the Collegiate Duals I have updated the team projections. Reminder: I treat rankings like they are seed projections Then based on average results by seed for the past 12 tournaments (2010 - 2022) I calculate an expected points total Expected points only takes into account the advancement and placement points - no bonus points Expected points differs from maximum points scoreable because not every wrestler finishes at their seed. For example, #1 seeds only win 98.33% of the time. All American probability takes into account the same phenomena. For example, #8 seeds only finish in the top eight 50% of the time. So a #8 seed counts as half an AA. And seeds below #8 also count as a fraction of an AA. Said another way, with a 5.5 AA probability for PSU per Intermat there is a 50% chance they end with 5 AA's and a 50% chance they end with 6 AA's.

You got em all. Nine titles amongst them from 2006 to 2022.

All of us swimmers are.

JeanGuy didn't say he was undefeated. He said he was 159-0, which he was.

Saw this article posted on HR: https://www.ufc.com/news/eierman-gunning-mma-following-olympic-run-ufc-fight-pass

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