More fraud

[mspart]

34 minutes ago, braves121 said:

Conservatives are really the type of people to vilify immigrants and others on welfare and say the government shouldn’t do any hand outs while gladly defending a multi billion dollar corporation who is a welfare queen 

 

Perhaps you can't read.   I did not defend Walmart.   I in fact said, I have no idea about Walmart or the allegations made.   How is that defending Walmart braves?   I could say the sky is blue and you could say I am denying reality just like you did above.   Your allegation is not worth the digital ink it is written on.   Try reading and comprehending before knee jerking your keyboard and brain. 

mspart

[braves121]

3 minutes ago, mspart said:

Perhaps you can't read.   I did not defend Walmart.   I in fact said, I have no idea about Walmart or the allegations made.   How is that defending Walmart braves?   I could say the sky is blue and you could say I am denying reality just like you did above.   Your allegation is not worth the digital ink it is written on.   Try reading and comprehending before knee jerking your keyboard and brain. 

mspart

You have made several negative posts about Someone you know who would’ve better off without a pay raise and stay on benefits and that’s bad, but when Walmart uses government benefits to not pay as much to workers, you said those are the rules. It’s just interesting 

[braves121]

5 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

  The government picking the winners and losers is far from a conservative principal. Libs love to control behavior by taxing what they don't like and subsidizing what they do.  Limited government is the cornerstone of conservative ideology.

Weird how picking winners and losers is considered far from conservative when the conservative president keeps literally picking winners and losers lmao you can’t be serious

[mspart]

3 minutes ago, braves121 said:

You have made several negative posts about Someone you know who would’ve better off without a pay raise and stay on benefits and that’s bad, but when Walmart uses government benefits to not pay as much to workers, you said those are the rules. It’s just interesting 

Show me that whatever they are doing is well known and being prosecuted because it is against the law.    If you can't then what I said is demonstrably true, whether that fits your political persuasion or not.   Get the law changed if you don't like it.   I still have no idea what you guys mean by walmart gets money so they can pay their people less.   

mspart

[mspart]

4 minutes ago, braves121 said:

Weird how picking winners and losers is considered far from conservative when the conservative president keeps literally picking winners and losers lmao you can’t be serious

The liberal president picked sustainable energy over traditional energy.   Who was picking winners and losers?

That is the problem when gov involves itself in the economy.    They want to pick winners and losers.   Let the market do that.  

mspart

[JimmySpeaks]

10 minutes ago, braves121 said:

Weird how picking winners and losers is considered far from conservative when the conservative president keeps literally picking winners and losers lmao you can’t be serious

There’s against the law and not against the law. The magnitude to which fraud is happening in Minneosta (and many other places) is wrong and was obviously coordinated. Why is it so hard for libtardos to admit it’s wrong??! 

[braves121]

5 minutes ago, mspart said:

The liberal president picked sustainable energy over traditional energy.   Who was picking winners and losers?

That is the problem when gov involves itself in the economy.    They want to pick winners and losers.   Let the market do that.  

mspart

But but but Biden. Trump is also picking losers and winners but it’s quite here when he does it

[ThreePointTakedown]

Are you saying that losing billions to fraud is an idea that isn't perfect?   I'd say so so most certainly. Walmart employees use $6.2B every single year. Money lost to fraud is bad and we should work to fix the system. Your solution to burn it to the ground does more harm than good. 

Do you have a problem with welfare recipients capable of making 250% of poverty via government subsidies? If a family of two needs that much to, for a limited time, raise their standard of living so the children aren't starving and the parent can afford to do things to better their situation. SO THEY NO LONGER WILL NEED GOVERNMENT BENEFITS. I'm fine with that. Then you're going to say, 'well why would they work to get out of that situation if they get it for free?' I'll say, people are on SNAP benefits for less than two years on average. Because THEY DON'T NEED IT ANYMORE! Also, those benefits are not guaranteed. So they could slide back to abject poverty and starvation at any time. THAT is not a great place to live or raise a family. I know you can agree to that. So there is motivation to move up because 'living' like that is not an achievement.  If so, what impact does that have on working people who make less than that, say 200% of poverty? None. There is no impact. Unless they see a family that is struggling WAAAAAAY more than they are, getting a boost, and think that THAT family doesn't deserve it for some/any reason. They internalize it and feel like a victim. Are you suggesting they look at themselves as a victim despite not needing any help from the government? 

If Walmart is doing that it is because they are getting gov benefits and those are the rules layed out.   A question arises, how much pay would they get if Walmart didn't get gov benefits? Upwards of $6.2B in pay. From a company that made $145B+ in profits in 2023. You are paying for their employees to eat and live.   I have no idea about Walmart or your allegation but I assume you know all about it.   Please inform. If that is true. Can you please just google something? Its not that much to ask. Just search for any opposing point on any topic and read a little bit. 

Show me that whatever they are doing is well known and being prosecuted because it is against the law.    If you can't then what I said is demonstrably true, whether that fits your political persuasion or not.   Get the law changed if you don't like it.   I still have no idea what you guys mean by walmart gets money so they can pay their people less.   

Now you're changing the topic. It started with a family making such and such and trying to foment outrage about a family that very well could NEED the money to keep the lights on and food on the table. 

You pivot to a huge corporation milking much more money in government aid by purposefully underpaying employees. But where is the outrage? Please don't tell us that 'you didn't know'? This has been widely reported for a decade now. They aren't being prosecuted because they use the $150B+ in profits to lobby government officials to not change the laws so they can continue suckling at the teet. That same teet you would kick families off of, if you had your way. 

The liberal president picked sustainable energy over traditional energy.   Who was picking winners and losers?

That is the problem when gov involves itself in the economy.    They want to pick winners and losers.   Let the market do that.  

Again with the 'own goal'. Why did you use the word 'sustainable' vs 'traditional'? The winner is ANYTHING that is sustainable. If traditional is not sustainable then it is a loser. 

[braves121]

1 minute ago, JimmySpeaks said:

There’s against the law and not against the law. The magnitude to which fraud is happening in Minneosta (and many other places) is wrong and was obviously coordinated. Why is it so hard for libtardos to admit it’s wrong??! 

Lock up whoever is guilty of fraud. Be careful what you wish for because this admin pardons a lot of convicted fraudsters

[JimmySpeaks]

Just now, braves121 said:

Lock up whoever is guilty of fraud. Be careful what you wish for because this admin pardons a lot of convicted fraudsters

Just like the last one huh? 

[JimmySpeaks]

2 minutes ago, braves121 said:

Lock up whoever is guilty of fraud. Be careful what you wish for because this admin pardons a lot of convicted fraudsters

You still can’t admit that what happened in the Somali community in Minnesota was coordinated and wrong. Why?  

[braves121]

1 minute ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Just like the last one huh? 

I’m fairly certain Biden didn’t pardon anyone convicted of fraud but if he did that sucks and shouldn’t have happened but trump for a fact pardoned at least one person convicted of fraud

[braves121]

Just now, JimmySpeaks said:

You still can’t admit that what happened in the Somali community in Minnesota was coordinated and wrong. Why?  

I said arrest them if it’s true. Everyone has their day in court should be fairly easy slam dunk case 

[JimmySpeaks]

Just now, braves121 said:

I said arrest them if it’s true. Everyone has their day in court should be fairly easy slam dunk case 

Not in Minnesota it won’t be 

[El Luchador]

7 minutes ago, braves121 said:

But but but Biden. Trump is also picking losers and winners but it’s quite here when he does it

How so? 

[El Luchador]

2 minutes ago, braves121 said:

I’m fairly certain Biden didn’t pardon anyone convicted of fraud but if he did that sucks and shouldn’t have happened but trump for a fact pardoned at least one person convicted of fraud

Biden didn't pardon hardly anyone. But the auto pen was busy as hell. 

[braves121]

3 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

How so? 

Trump has nationalized several us companies

[El Luchador]

1 minute ago, braves121 said:

Trump has nationalized several us companies

Doubt it.

[mspart]

12 minutes ago, braves121 said:

But but but Biden. Trump is also picking losers and winners but it’s quite here when he does it

I was speaking of Biden and Obama.   Obama famously said he was putting coal fired power plants out of business.   You don't get more overt than that.  

Nobody here will explain the Walmart thing so I'm guessing there is no Walmart thing.  

mspart

[Caveira]

24 minutes ago, braves121 said:

Lock up whoever is guilty of fraud. Be careful what you wish for because this admin pardons a lot of convicted fraudsters

Notable Clemency Recipients Convicted of Fraud 

• Marcus Garvey: In a posthumous action in January 2025, Biden pardoned the civil rights leader who was convicted of mail fraud in 1923; the conviction was widely considered lol unjust and politically motivated.
• Rita Crundwell: Biden commuted the sentence of the former comptroller for Dixon, Illinois, who pleaded guilty to a $54 million embezzlementscheme, considered one of the largest municipal frauds in U.S. history.
• Michael Conahan: A former judge involved in the infamous "kids-for-cash" scandal, where he accepted $2.8 million in kickbacks for imposing harsh sentences on juveniles, had his sentence commuted.
• Paul Daugerdas: A former law partner who oversaw fraudulent tax shelters, resulting in more than $1.63 billion in government losses, had his sentence commuted.
• Meera Sachdeva: A Mississippi doctor whose 20-year sentence for Medicare fraud(providing diluted chemotherapy drugs to cancer patients) was commuted.
• Gregory McKnight: Commuted the sentence of an individual involved in a $72 million Ponzi scheme.
• Elaine Lovett: A medical billing company owner involved in a $26 million scheme to defraud Medicare had her sentence commuted.
• Trynitha Fulton: Pardoned after pleading guilty to a payroll fraud schemewhile a middle school teacher. 
   
• The following individuals received a full pardon, which officially wipes the conviction from their record:
• Hunter Biden: Pardoned in December 2024 for all potential federal crimes committed between 2014 and 2024, including nine tax-related chargesinvolving over $1.4 million in unpaid taxes.
• Nina Simona Allen: Convicted of conspiracy to defraud financial institutions in 2003.
• Duran Arthur Brown: Convicted of wire fraudrelated to a mortgage fraud scheme in 2012.
• Audrey Diane Simon: Convicted of conspiracy to commit bank fraud in 1997.
• Jerry Donald Manning: Convicted of two counts of mail fraud in 1985.
• Kim Douglas Haman: Convicted of making false claims against the government in 1992.
• James Edgar Yarbrough: Convicted of making false statements in a passport application in 1984. 
•  
  Commutations for Fraud and Corruption
  These individuals had their remaining sentences reduced or eliminated, typically while they were already serving on home confinement:
• Timothy McGinn: A former stockbroker who received a commuted sentence for defrauding hundreds of clients of millions of dollars.
• Paul Burks: Convicted of operating a massive $900 million internet Ponzi scheme; he was sentenced to 14 years in 2017.
• Eric Bloom: Former head of Sentinel Management Group, convicted of defrauding clients of over $665 million.
• Joseph Shereshevsky: Convicted for his role in a $255 million real estate Ponzi scheme targeting Orthodox Jewish communities.
• William Boyland: A former New York State assemblyman sentenced in 2015 for bribery, extortion, and fraud.
• Jimmy Dimora: A former Ohio county commissioner convicted in a major corruption and bribery scheme involving roughly $450,000.
• James Burkhart: Convicted of conspiracy to commit mail, wire, and health care fraud, as well as money laundering.
• Michael Thomas: Convicted of mail fraudand aiding and abetting. 

[braves121]

14 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

Doubt it.

Well i mean the us is now shareholders of intel due to trump. So yes trump jas nationalized companies

[El Luchador]

Just now, braves121 said:

Well i mean the us is now shareholders of intel due to trump. So yes trump jas nationalized companies

That's not nationalizing. The USSR nationalized industries, Venezuela nationalized industries, the US has not.

[JimmySpeaks]

16 minutes ago, braves121 said:

Well i mean the us is now shareholders of intel due to trump. So yes trump jas nationalized companies

Bahahahahhaa that’s not nationalizing. You’re a clown 

[braves121]

19 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Bahahahahhaa that’s not nationalizing. You’re a clown 

Trump hasn’t fully nationalized a company yet, but his admin holds significant stakes in 5 companies so i mean this Admin is still picking winners and losers point sell stands  

[braves121]

38 minutes ago, Caveira said:

 

Notable Clemency Recipients Convicted of Fraud 

• Marcus Garvey: In a posthumous action in January 2025, Biden pardoned the civil rights leader who was convicted of mail fraud in 1923; the conviction was widely considered lol unjust and politically motivated.
• Rita Crundwell: Biden commuted the sentence of the former comptroller for Dixon, Illinois, who pleaded guilty to a $54 million embezzlementscheme, considered one of the largest municipal frauds in U.S. history.
• Michael Conahan: A former judge involved in the infamous "kids-for-cash" scandal, where he accepted $2.8 million in kickbacks for imposing harsh sentences on juveniles, had his sentence commuted.
• Paul Daugerdas: A former law partner who oversaw fraudulent tax shelters, resulting in more than $1.63 billion in government losses, had his sentence commuted.
• Meera Sachdeva: A Mississippi doctor whose 20-year sentence for Medicare fraud(providing diluted chemotherapy drugs to cancer patients) was commuted.
• Gregory McKnight: Commuted the sentence of an individual involved in a $72 million Ponzi scheme.
• Elaine Lovett: A medical billing company owner involved in a $26 million scheme to defraud Medicare had her sentence commuted.
• Trynitha Fulton: Pardoned after pleading guilty to a payroll fraud schemewhile a middle school teacher. 
   
• The following individuals received a full pardon, which officially wipes the conviction from their record:
• Hunter Biden: Pardoned in December 2024 for all potential federal crimes committed between 2014 and 2024, including nine tax-related chargesinvolving over $1.4 million in unpaid taxes.
• Nina Simona Allen: Convicted of conspiracy to defraud financial institutions in 2003.
• Duran Arthur Brown: Convicted of wire fraudrelated to a mortgage fraud scheme in 2012.
• Audrey Diane Simon: Convicted of conspiracy to commit bank fraud in 1997.
• Jerry Donald Manning: Convicted of two counts of mail fraud in 1985.
• Kim Douglas Haman: Convicted of making false claims against the government in 1992.
• James Edgar Yarbrough: Convicted of making false statements in a passport application in 1984. 
•  
  Commutations for Fraud and Corruption
  These individuals had their remaining sentences reduced or eliminated, typically while they were already serving on home confinement:
• Timothy McGinn: A former stockbroker who received a commuted sentence for defrauding hundreds of clients of millions of dollars.
• Paul Burks: Convicted of operating a massive $900 million internet Ponzi scheme; he was sentenced to 14 years in 2017.
• Eric Bloom: Former head of Sentinel Management Group, convicted of defrauding clients of over $665 million.
• Joseph Shereshevsky: Convicted for his role in a $255 million real estate Ponzi scheme targeting Orthodox Jewish communities.
• William Boyland: A former New York State assemblyman sentenced in 2015 for bribery, extortion, and fraud.
• Jimmy Dimora: A former Ohio county commissioner convicted in a major corruption and bribery scheme involving roughly $450,000.
• James Burkhart: Convicted of conspiracy to commit mail, wire, and health care fraud, as well as money laundering.
• Michael Thomas: Convicted of mail fraudand aiding and abetting. 

Damn Biden truly does suck but still trump has done the same i guess thy are even