CKLV - Results

[Dark Energy]

Yea, let’s not call Bassett a high school guy even if it is technically true.  But is he really older than Joy?

Also, that head bang in the Bassett / Joy match, I can comfortably say, was a factor.  I’d be curious to see the match again.  That said, Bassett is awesome. 

[HokieDave87]

50 minutes ago, Dark Energy said:

Yea, let’s not call Bassett a high school guy even if it is technically true.  But is he really older than Joy?

Also, that head bang in the Bassett / Joy match, I can comfortably say, was a factor.  I’d be curious to see the match again.  That said, Bassett is awesome. 

Idk their exact birthdays but they're about the same age. Not sure about the head bang, maybe not 11-0 but Bo was superior on his feet and already had forced two stall calls, it was 5-0 when the head bang happened. I still think Bo wins handily IMO. 

[1032004]

1 hour ago, Dark Energy said:

Yea, let’s not call Bassett a high school guy even if it is technically true.  But is he really older than Joy?

Also, that head bang in the Bassett / Joy match, I can comfortably say, was a factor.  I’d be curious to see the match again.  That said, Bassett is awesome. 

Cornell trainer really likes letting concussed guys wrestle, huh?

[1032004]

This is an interesting technique to lock up a cradle 

 

 

 

[BigRedFan]

9 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Cornell trainer really likes letting concussed guys wrestle, huh?

Just stop.

[happyvalet]

6 hours ago, Ragu said:

whole d1, Joy got majored by a HSer and is now #2 in the country. and 157 has no clear top dogs, Watters is very good but not a cut above the rest. maybe I'm just being too harsh but 157 seems to be the worst weight class atm

157 is definitely better than 149 with Watters, Shapiro, Robideau, and Duke. Then guys like Zerban, Webster, and Cannon who have looked great so far this year. Add Antrell to the list too if he gets back to his previous form. Cardenas has taken a couple losses but is super talented as well. 

Edited December 7, 2025 by happyvalet

[crzyctldy]

When the dust settles, I pick Cardenes.

[1032004]

6 hours ago, BigRedFan said:

Just stop.

So Joy was fine when he got majored by Bassett?  Because if he wasn’t, there’s really no reason to finish that match which didn’t even count

Side note, but it looks like he usually  sets up the cradle the same way.  Unless he has that Spencer Lee strength , seems like something that might be able to be scouted and planned for.

Edited December 7, 2025 by 1032004

[BigRedFan]

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

So Joy was fine when he got majored by Bassett?  Because if he wasn’t, there’s really no reason to finish that match which didn’t even count

Side note, but it looks like he usually  sets up the cradle the same way.  Unless he has that Spencer Lee strength , seems like something that might be able to be scouted and planned for.

There is "fine" and there is "concussed."  Words matter.

[1032004]

5 minutes ago, BigRedFan said:

There is "fine" and there is "concussed."  Words matter.

This weekend Joy was wearing the head protection thing on his headgear, which he was not wearing during the Bassett match.  That’s a pretty good sign that something happened between then and now.  He also had been in concussion protocol in a match last year, so if he was not checked out during the Bassett match he should have been.   Happens at 4:56 but the video skips over the stoppage.

I just hope the staff can keep these guys healthy, they’re fun to watch when they don’t have concussions.

[maligned]

Back on topic about results:

Christian Carroll was the other huge surprise to me alongside Joy. It was thought because of his height that he was forever destined to be a tweener that can't make 197 healthily but is too short and light to wrestle 285. This weekend:

Techs #32, majors #5, beats #11, and loses 5-3 to #1 (in by far Bastida's toughest match to date)

Especially with the loss to Mullen earlier in the year, I would have thought of Carroll as a ho-hum national qualifier that is not a threat for the podium. Big breakthrough weekend.

Edited December 8, 2025 by maligned

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

On 12/7/2025 at 7:20 AM, BigRedFan said:

There is "fine" and there is "concussed."  Words matter.

One of the things we learned in recent years is that "Oh, he just got his bell rung a little bit.  He's not concussed." Generally means he;s concussed.

It's not 1986 anymore.

[NM1965]

On 12/7/2025 at 3:59 AM, 1032004 said:

Cornell trainer really likes letting concussed guys wrestle, huh?

Maybe Cornell should recruit wrestlers that have skulls thicker than an eggshell! 

[GimJustafan]

 

[Dark Energy]

I’m on the James Conway train!!!  Impressive what he is doing on and off the mat.

[Greenwave]

I agree, impressive young man on and off of the mat.

[1032004]

Wrestlestat doesn’t seem to be counting the MFF losses.

Speaking of, Kyler Larkin missed his chance to be the first undefeated 4x champ since Cael…because of a MFF.

[Truzzcat]

13 hours ago, maligned said:

Back on topic about results:

Christian Carroll was the other huge surprise to me alongside Joy. It was thought because of his height that he was forever destined to be a tweener that can't make 197 healthily but is too short and light to wrestle 285. This weekend:

Techs #32, majors #5, beats #11, and loses 5-3 to #1 (in by far Bastida's toughest match to date)

Especially with the loss to Mullen earlier in the year, I would have thought of Carroll as a ho-hum national qualifier that is not a threat for the podium. Big breakthrough weekend.

Carroll vs Mirasola this week, really feels like a blood round type of match.

[de4856]

Jaxon Joy wasn’t on my radar before, but he is now. Very impressive. 

[TAC]

On 12/7/2025 at 3:01 AM, Higgitty said:

Didn't Bo Bassett beat Joy pretty bad earlier this season? 

I watched the match, Bassett dominated him from the start. 

[BigRedFan]

46 minutes ago, TAC said:

I watched the match, Bassett dominated him from the start. 

Does that include the rideout that Joy put on him in the third perios?

[happyvalet]

4 hours ago, Truzzcat said:

Carroll vs Mirasola this week, really feels like a blood round type of match.

I think they're both AA guys. I think Carroll has a higher ceiling and a lower floor, so we will see how consistent he is but the ability is there. There aren't many 275-pounders in the upper echelon, so Mirasola will be fine. I'm excited for them to face off