fishbane Posted April 14 Posted April 14 18 minutes ago, El Luchador said: You think this guy made a fake video absolutely destroying his people in the midst of a massive backlash from massive fraud? Then you question my intelligence and Caveira too. I am more questioning your gullibility/critical thinking in this particular instance than overall intelligence/IQ. A lot of people have a blind spot where it comes to information that fits their expectations myself included. It would very unfortunate to fall victim to that bias whilst calling out the intelligence of an entire population. It would undermine your point and make you look incredibly foolish. I would be very embarrassed if I made a mistake like that. That said I don't know for sure that this video isn't what it appears to be on the surface, but it seems unbelievable that someone actually committing fraud would release such an inflammatory video at the moment when more eyes are on this kind of fraud than ever before. Either the most unlikeable fraudster of Somali descent in the country had incredibly bad timing, or he is also the dumbest, or it isn't what it appears to be. I'm leaning towards the last one. With outrage at a peak you'd think there would be no shortage of new outlets and government officials looking to identify this guy and bring him to justice. That hasn't happened. I don't see any reporting on it by any news outlet - only social media posts. What was the original source? What is the guys name? Where does he live? Does he actually get SNAP benefits? As you said it has been a while since this was first posted. Why hasn't he been tracked down and identified?
JimmySpeaks Posted April 14 Posted April 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, fishbane said: I am more questioning your gullibility/critical thinking in this particular instance than overall intelligence/IQ. A lot of people have a blind spot where it comes to information that fits their expectations myself included. It would very unfortunate to fall victim to that bias whilst calling out the intelligence of an entire population. It would undermine your point and make you look incredibly foolish. I would be very embarrassed if I made a mistake like that. That said I don't know for sure that this video isn't what it appears to be on the surface, but it seems unbelievable that someone actually committing fraud would release such an inflammatory video at the moment when more eyes are on this kind of fraud than ever before. Either the most unlikeable fraudster of Somali descent in the country had incredibly bad timing, or he is also the dumbest, or it isn't what it appears to be. I'm leaning towards the last one. With outrage at a peak you'd think there would be no shortage of new outlets and government officials looking to identify this guy and bring him to justice. That hasn't happened. I don't see any reporting on it by any news outlet - only social media posts. What was the original source? What is the guys name? Where does he live? Does he actually get SNAP benefits? As you said it has been a while since this was first posted. Why hasn't he been tracked down and identified? Who said he’s actually committing fraud? He’s bragging about being able to come to America and live for free because hard working “white” people cover him by paying taxes. He’s a proud freeloader Edited April 14 by JimmySpeaks LIVING the dream in the GREATEST COUNTRY on the planet!!!!
fishbane Posted April 14 Posted April 14 20 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said: Who said he’s actually committing fraud? He’s bragging about being able to come to America and live for free because hard working “white” people cover him by paying taxes. He’s a proud freeloader That's possible, but doesn't change the analysis much. With it going viral he would have been identified and shamed. That hasn't happened, so either he either is a proud freeloader that keeps a very low profile apart from posting videos shit talking the US taxpayer on TikTok or maybe the videos doesn't show an actual Somali-American and proud SNAP benefit recipient. What is more likely?
Caveira Posted April 14 Posted April 14 7 minutes ago, fishbane said: That's possible, but doesn't change the analysis much. With it going viral he would have been identified and shamed. That hasn't happened, so either he either is a proud freeloader that keeps a very low profile apart from posting videos shit talking the US taxpayer on TikTok or maybe the videos doesn't show an actual Somali-American and proud SNAP benefit recipient. What is more likely? Don’t you have to want to go after and prosecute fraud to actually go after fraud and prosecute it. also. Freeloading is allowed these days no? It’s policy that allows it. What’s the story here for the news. 81% of Somali households are on assistance. No shit this dude likely is too
JimmySpeaks Posted April 14 Posted April 14 19 minutes ago, fishbane said: That's possible, but doesn't change the analysis much. With it going viral he would have been identified and shamed. That hasn't happened, so either he either is a proud freeloader that keeps a very low profile apart from posting videos shit talking the US taxpayer on TikTok or maybe the videos doesn't show an actual Somali-American and proud SNAP benefit recipient. What is more likely? It’s very likely he’s a freeloader and likes to brag about it. LIVING the dream in the GREATEST COUNTRY on the planet!!!!
JimmySpeaks Posted April 14 Posted April 14 20 minutes ago, fishbane said: That's possible, but doesn't change the analysis much. With it going viral he would have been identified and shamed. That hasn't happened, so either he either is a proud freeloader that keeps a very low profile apart from posting videos shit talking the US taxpayer on TikTok or maybe the videos doesn't show an actual Somali-American and proud SNAP benefit recipient. What is more likely? I’m guessing there are hundreds of thousands that feel just like he does but don’t put it on video. LIVING the dream in the GREATEST COUNTRY on the planet!!!!
El Luchador Posted April 14 Author Posted April 14 2 hours ago, fishbane said: I am more questioning your gullibility/critical thinking in this particular instance than overall intelligence/IQ. A lot of people have a blind spot where it comes to information that fits their expectations myself included. It would very unfortunate to fall victim to that bias whilst calling out the intelligence of an entire population. It would undermine your point and make you look incredibly foolish. I would be very embarrassed if I made a mistake like that. That said I don't know for sure that this video isn't what it appears to be on the surface, but it seems unbelievable that someone actually committing fraud would release such an inflammatory video at the moment when more eyes are on this kind of fraud than ever before. Either the most unlikeable fraudster of Somali descent in the country had incredibly bad timing, or he is also the dumbest, or it isn't what it appears to be. I'm leaning towards the last one. With outrage at a peak you'd think there would be no shortage of new outlets and government officials looking to identify this guy and bring him to justice. That hasn't happened. I don't see any reporting on it by any news outlet - only social media posts. What was the original source? What is the guys name? Where does he live? Does he actually get SNAP benefits? As you said it has been a while since this was first posted. Why hasn't he been tracked down and identified? He has been identified. You're assumptions make you gullible. Do you think this man is appreciative of the support and generosity America has given him? He clearly he clearly despises us. I'll take his word over your assumption. Knowing how dependent the Somali community is I don't think it's even a remote stretch to believe that he is on assistance. You need to get up to speed on reality.
fishbane Posted April 14 Posted April 14 2 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said: It’s very likely he’s a freeloader and likes to brag about it. Bragging about freeloading on TikTok is incompatible with remaining anonymous. 2 minutes ago, El Luchador said: He has been identified. You're assumptions make you gullible. Do you think this man is appreciative of the support and generosity America has given him? He clearly he clearly despises us. I'll take his word over your assumption. Knowing how dependent the Somali community is I don't think it's even a remote stretch to believe that he is on assistance. You need to get up to speed on reality. Who is he? What is his TikTok account? Does he actually receive EBT benefits?
El Luchador Posted April 14 Author Posted April 14 10 minutes ago, fishbane said: Bragging about freeloading on TikTok is incompatible with remaining anonymous. Who is he? What is his TikTok account? Does he actually receive EBT benefits? You don't really care, because you fully support this guy. Mental gymnastics you're doing says a lot.
fishbane Posted April 14 Posted April 14 1 minute ago, El Luchador said: You don't really care, because you fully support this guy. Mental gymnastics you're doing says a lot. What are you talking about? Where did I support him in any way? My point is the maybe no one has to either support or condemn him because there is a good chance he does not exist. What are the chances the most cartoonishly unlikeable recipient of SNAP benefits in the Somali-American community releases a TikTok bragging to the American tax payers how they pay for his meals? That already is pretty unlikely, but then the dumb caricature of a welfare recipient somehow cannot be tracked down. No one knows who he is because he probably isn't real. Then on the other hand you believe Somalis are dumb, dependent, and lazy. So if anyone creates some nonsense no matter how over the top or cartoonish so long as it fits those parameters you are likely to believe it. Real or not you will think it is not even a "remote stretch." Zero critical thinking. Or if he is real who is he? What is his TikTok account?
JimmySpeaks Posted April 14 Posted April 14 (edited) 44 minutes ago, fishbane said: Bragging about freeloading on TikTok is incompatible with remaining anonymous. Who is he? What is his TikTok account? Does he actually receive EBT benefits? Doesn’t matter. He’s on video saying what’s happening and why he/she/they/them come here. You don’t think that’s a real sentiment? He’s basically telling white people how dumb they are. They work for him. Edited April 14 by JimmySpeaks LIVING the dream in the GREATEST COUNTRY on the planet!!!!
JimmySpeaks Posted April 14 Posted April 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, fishbane said: That's possible, but doesn't change the analysis much. With it going viral he would have been identified and shamed. That hasn't happened, so either he either is a proud freeloader that keeps a very low profile apart from posting videos shit talking the US taxpayer on TikTok or maybe the videos doesn't show an actual Somali-American and proud SNAP benefit recipient. What is more likely? Who would shame him? It’s the truth. Edited April 14 by JimmySpeaks LIVING the dream in the GREATEST COUNTRY on the planet!!!!
Caveira Posted April 14 Posted April 14 24 minutes ago, fishbane said: What are you talking about? Where did I support him in any way? My point is the maybe no one has to either support or condemn him because there is a good chance he does not exist. What are the chances the most cartoonishly unlikeable recipient of SNAP benefits in the Somali-American community releases a TikTok bragging to the American tax payers how they pay for his meals? That already is pretty unlikely, but then the dumb caricature of a welfare recipient somehow cannot be tracked down. No one knows who he is because he probably isn't real. Then on the other hand you believe Somalis are dumb, dependent, and lazy. So if anyone creates some nonsense no matter how over the top or cartoonish so long as it fits those parameters you are likely to believe it. Real or not you will think it is not even a "remote stretch." Zero critical thinking. Or if he is real who is he? What is his TikTok account? 81% of the Somali community has their hand out. Why would you even bother splitting hairs over if he is or isn’t really. 81% is a big # 1
El Luchador Posted April 15 Author Posted April 15 1 hour ago, fishbane said: What are you talking about? Where did I support him in any way? My point is the maybe no one has to either support or condemn him because there is a good chance he does not exist. What are the chances the most cartoonishly unlikeable recipient of SNAP benefits in the Somali-American community releases a TikTok bragging to the American tax payers how they pay for his meals? That already is pretty unlikely, but then the dumb caricature of a welfare recipient somehow cannot be tracked down. No one knows who he is because he probably isn't real. Then on the other hand you believe Somalis are dumb, dependent, and lazy. So if anyone creates some nonsense no matter how over the top or cartoonish so long as it fits those parameters you are likely to believe it. Real or not you will think it is not even a "remote stretch." Zero critical thinking. Or if he is real who is he? What is his TikTok account? I believe they have an average IQ of 68, because that is a fact proven by research and data. I believe they are dependent because the data also shows that. You tell me I'm incapable of critical thinking, but the facts remain. You tell me I'm gullible but the data says it's you who is.
fishbane Posted April 15 Posted April 15 2 hours ago, Caveira said: 81% of the Somali community has their hand out. Why would you even bother splitting hairs over if he is or isn’t really. 81% is a big # This isn’t splitting hairs. Either the video is fake rage bait or the most cartoonish perpetrator of benefit abuse in a mask off rant. It’s a big difference. It’s not like we are arguing about whether is 81% or 75%of Somali-Americans receive some form of welfare. If you got duped by a fake video and posted it in a discussion calling Somalia a low IQ nation that is a cartoonish and embarrassing error. LOL.
Caveira Posted April 15 Posted April 15 3 minutes ago, fishbane said: This isn’t splitting hairs. Either the video is fake rage bait or the most cartoonish perpetrator of benefit abuse in a mask off rant. It’s a big difference. It’s not like we are arguing about whether is 81% or 75%of Somali-Americans receive some form of welfare. If you got duped by a fake video and posted it in a discussion calling Somalia a low IQ nation that is a cartoonish and embarrassing error. LOL. I didn’t get duped. And it’s a travesty to our country that we’re letting folks in who are 81% dependent on hand outs. It’s not sustainable. It’s just math.
fishbane Posted April 15 Posted April 15 1 minute ago, Caveira said: I didn’t get duped. And it’s a travesty to our country that we’re letting folks in who are 81% dependent on hand outs. It’s not sustainable. It’s just math. So you think it’s real? Or you think it’s fake? If you think it’s real then you probably got duped. If you think it’s fake then why post a fake video? It undermines your point. Citing the 81% would be more effective.
Caveira Posted April 15 Posted April 15 (edited) 9 minutes ago, fishbane said: So you think it’s real? Or you think it’s fake? If you think it’s real then you probably got duped. If you think it’s fake then why post a fake video? It undermines your point. Citing the 81% would be more effective. It’s real. But who cares the whole population here has their hand out. Make a point. They don’t contribute to the country. They steal. They don’t work. Why are they here other than to vote blue… I mean the people giving them the hand outs Edited April 15 by Caveira
fishbane Posted April 15 Posted April 15 7 minutes ago, Caveira said: It’s real. But who cares the whole population here has their hand out. Make a point. They don’t contribute to the country. They steal. They don’t work. Why are they here other than to vote blue… I mean the people giving them the hand outs The point is you claim it’s real, but cannot identify the person in the video. Neither can any news outlet. What account first posted it? You likely got duped. Why are they here? They came here as refugees for the same reason all refugees come here.
fishbane Posted April 15 Posted April 15 2 hours ago, El Luchador said: I believe they have an average IQ of 68, because that is a fact proven by research and data. I believe they are dependent because the data also shows that. You tell me I'm incapable of critical thinking, but the facts remain. You tell me I'm gullible but the data says it's you who is. What research? What data? What test? Taken by who? Are you taking about the link Caviera posted? This one? https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country Try using critical thinking…. That page lists the Somali IQ as 83, but that is based on test takers at the international IQ test website over the past year and there were only 141 test takers from Somalia a nation of 19M. If you’re talking about the Lynn-Becker estimate they measured the IQ of a few thousand refugee children. You are way too confident in the number you like which for some reason is the lower one. The two numbers for Somalia on that page are different by 15 points which should be the standard deviation in test scores. The US is different by a few points. Clearly there are issues with the measurement and/or sampling for the Somali data.
Caveira Posted April 15 Posted April 15 (edited) 6 minutes ago, fishbane said: What research? What data? What test? Taken by who? Are you taking about the link Caviera posted? This one? https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country Try using critical thinking…. That page lists the Somali IQ as 83, but that is based on test takers at the international IQ test website over the past year and there were only 141 test takers from Somalia a nation of 19M. If you’re talking about the Lynn-Becker estimate they measured the IQ of a few thousand refugee children. You are way too confident in the number you like which for some reason is the lower one. The two numbers for Somalia on that page are different by 15 points which should be the standard deviation in test scores. The US is different by a few points. Clearly there are issues with the measurement and/or sampling for the Somali data. Why are they so dependent on free gov $ then……. dare I say more than any population in North America Edited April 15 by Caveira
fishbane Posted April 15 Posted April 15 14 minutes ago, Caveira said: Why are they so dependent on free gov $ then dare I say more than any population in North America If the outcomes were explained by IQ as assessed by Lynn-Becker then they wouldn’t be an outlier group. Nicaraguan-Americans, Ghanaian-Americans, Congolese-Americans, etc. would be right there with them. Why don’t you go on twitter and find a fake video that purports to explain it?
El Luchador Posted April 15 Author Posted April 15 16 hours ago, fishbane said: What research? What data? What test? Taken by who? Are you taking about the link Caviera posted? This one? https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country Try using critical thinking…. That page lists the Somali IQ as 83, but that is based on test takers at the international IQ test website over the past year and there were only 141 test takers from Somalia a nation of 19M. If you’re talking about the Lynn-Becker estimate they measured the IQ of a few thousand refugee children. You are way too confident in the number you like which for some reason is the lower one. The two numbers for Somalia on that page are different by 15 points which should be the standard deviation in test scores. The US is different by a few points. Clearly there are issues with the measurement and/or sampling for the Somali data. I suggest you start rereading this topic from the beginning.
Scouts Honor Posted April 16 Posted April 16 Americans can't be high on the scale. just think of all the leftists that buy this nonsense
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