ionel Posted February 25 Posted February 25 In this day and age its surprising they weren't fired on the spot and told to find their own transport back to Iowa for their antics toward the fans in the OSU dual. Its not the first, second or even third time. .
Hurricane Wrestling Posted February 25 Posted February 25 1 hour ago, ionel said: In this day and age its surprising they weren't fired on the spot and told to find their own transport back to Iowa for their antics toward the fans in the OSU dual. Its not the first, second or even third time. What antics did they direct at the OSU fans (and are you by OSU are you referring to Ohio State or Oklahoma State)? Thanks.
MPhillips Posted February 25 Posted February 25 1 hour ago, Hurricane Wrestling said: What antics did they direct at the OSU fans (and are you by OSU are you referring to Ohio State or Oklahoma State)? Thanks. .
ionel Posted February 25 Posted February 25 1 hour ago, Hurricane Wrestling said: What antics did they direct at the OSU fans (and are you by OSU are you referring to Ohio State or Oklahoma State)? Thanks. Be one thing if it was just crazy Terry but it was simultaneously both Tom & Terry. Giving the fans ~120 degrees behind them the Gable statue stall fist. Wasn't just a one time short antic. No they gave the fist pointing at the fans while turning thru the full 120 degrees. There's video then of Terry directly after when he walks out thru entrance giving the front row 200 seat folks the double bird. I was other side of entrance didn't get the bird. .
WrestlingRash Posted February 25 Posted February 25 9 minutes ago, ionel said: Be one thing if it was just crazy Terry but it was simultaneously both Tom & Terry. Giving the fans ~120 degrees behind them the Gable statue stall fist. Wasn't just a one time short antic. No they gave the fist pointing at the fans while turning thru the full 120 degrees. There's video then of Terry directly after when he walks out thru entrance giving the front row 200 seat folks the double bird. I was other side of entrance didn't get the bird. Have you ever met an okie state fan? they all deserve it. that being said, not they way a leader of men should be acting. however, Iowa is a clown school, run by clown admins, who have a massive inferiority complex and a collective little man syndrome. T and T's bosses probably loved it.
MPhillips Posted February 25 Posted February 25 1 minute ago, WrestlingRash said: Have you ever met an okie state fan? He is one... .
WrestlingRash Posted February 25 Posted February 25 17 minutes ago, MPhillips said: He is one... explains so much.
WrestlingRash Posted February 25 Posted February 25 How do you guys see the success Hawkeye guys are having internationally right now when combined with the current state of the Iowa program? Kind of a T and T are washed narrative killer IMO.
Gene Mills Fan Posted February 25 Posted February 25 you can't roll under in FS. But also splitting the rolls maybe why the collegiate inconsistency. One of the big losses was 2 days before Spencer was in Zagreb.
mr.nonothingatall Posted February 25 Posted February 25 6 hours ago, MPhillips said: He is one... @ionel Full of un-bias blasphemy.
Southend Posted February 26 Posted February 26 Every one needs to pump the brakes here. T and T will be fine. Give them a season to rebound.
mr.nonothingatall Posted February 26 Posted February 26 15 minutes ago, Southend said: Every one needs to pump the brakes here. T and T will be fine. Give them a season to rebound. Literally scroll up and read my response to the last person that comments that. They will not rebound Full of un-bias blasphemy.
Southend Posted February 26 Posted February 26 7 hours ago, mr.nonothingatall said: Literally scroll up and read my response to the last person that comments that. They will not rebound I saw that ,but it took this many years to learn how to make the break happen . You wait and see. T and T are highly skilled. Next year we will see them start back relevance.
Maxwell Smart Posted February 26 Posted February 26 Some Hawkeye fans just refuse to see it. There's no rebound coming, look at their roster for next year. Stay with the Brands, and the program keeps falling behind. Top recruits are going elsewhere. Watch this years Big and NCAA's.
RawDog Posted February 26 Posted February 26 Next year is going to be drastically worse. However they do have a stud recruiting class coming in after that. If TnT can survive next season maybe there is a chance they can turn it around.
mr.nonothingatall Posted February 26 Posted February 26 I'm a fan but a realist, too many times have the brands made me realize that when ever something is going right, it ends up folding on them. With recruits, portal guys, even in matches. They under achieve more often then not. Full of un-bias blasphemy.
fishbane Posted February 26 Posted February 26 It’s easy to be reactionary. Tom Ryan and Tom Brands took a lot of criticism after NCAAs last year. Both Ohio State and Iowa finished well back of OSU and Nebraska and had multiple wrestlers under perform. Iowa didn’t have nearly as big of an off season in the transfer market acquiring fewer and less accomplished wrestlers than in previous off seasons, so expectations were not especially high. Both Ohio State and Iowa started the year much improved beating OSU and Nebraska handily at the national duals. They’ve both struggled with injuries the second half of the year and Iowa in particular had a very tough schedule which has made things look worse.
Southend Posted February 26 Posted February 26 11 minutes ago, fishbane said: It’s easy to be reactionary. Tom Ryan and Tom Brands took a lot of criticism after NCAAs last year. Both Ohio State and Iowa finished well back of OSU and Nebraska and had multiple wrestlers under perform. Iowa didn’t have nearly as big of an off season in the transfer market acquiring fewer and less accomplished wrestlers than in previous off seasons, so expectations were not especially high. Both Ohio State and Iowa started the year much improved beating OSU and Nebraska handily at the national duals. They’ve both struggled with injuries the second half of the year and Iowa in particular had a very tough schedule which has made things look worse. 1 hour ago, RawDog said: Next year is going to be drastically worse. However they do have a stud recruiting class coming in after that. If TnT can survive next season maybe there is a chance they can turn it around. Dog , next year is when it starts. Yes. The fruits will be the following season. Fish, that is correct, tough set of circumstances this year. Every one needs to pump the breaks.
MPhillips Posted February 26 Posted February 26 24 minutes ago, fishbane said: Tom Ryan and Tom Brands took a lot of criticism after NCAAs last year. Ryan has been taking criticism every year since 2015. Even when he finished runner up, the so called fans wanted him replaced... .
fishbane Posted February 26 Posted February 26 1 hour ago, MPhillips said: Ryan has been taking criticism every year since 2015. Even when he finished runner up, the so called fans wanted him replaced... That decision to challenge the NF points in Cannon-Fish match at NCAAs really had a lot of people questioning his judgement. That challenge blew up in his face, but it wasn't a crazy challenge. Similarly people were saying Feldman, Bouzakis and the Young Bucs apart from Mendez failed to develop. Even Mendez seemingly regressed last year losing to Bartlett multiple times as well as Brock Hardy. Then this season starts and Feldman beats Ferrari and Bouzakis starts the season undefeated (apart from the McCrone loss), Mendez is rolling and everyone has forgotten. But then they get blown out 36-5 by PSU.
MPhillips Posted February 26 Posted February 26 31 minutes ago, fishbane said: That decision to challenge the NF points in Cannon-Fish match at NCAAs really had a lot of people questioning his judgement. That just piled up on top of the folks already against him... .
Maxwell Smart Posted February 26 Posted February 26 Just going to watch and let it play out. It's guaranteed to be entertaining and discussed even more as time goes on. Fair or unfair, the chatter is getting louder. It also goes with the territory. 86ing on the subject.
mr.nonothingatall Posted February 26 Posted February 26 10 hours ago, fishbane said: It’s easy to be reactionary. Tom Ryan and Tom Brands took a lot of criticism after NCAAs last year. Both Ohio State and Iowa finished well back of OSU and Nebraska and had multiple wrestlers under perform. Iowa didn’t have nearly as big of an off season in the transfer market acquiring fewer and less accomplished wrestlers than in previous off seasons, so expectations were not especially high. Both Ohio State and Iowa started the year much improved beating OSU and Nebraska handily at the national duals. They’ve both struggled with injuries the second half of the year and Iowa in particular had a very tough schedule which has made things look worse. Iowa has plenty of options in the portal, Ryan has done better than the brands have in the portal. There is no excuses for the brands as for as the portal choices for this year go Full of un-bias blasphemy.
AgaveMaria Posted February 27 Posted February 27 24 minutes ago, mr.nonothingatall said: Iowa has plenty of options in the portal, Ryan has done better than the brands have in the portal. There is no excuses for the brands as for as the portal choices for this year go Iowa can have all the options in the world & recruit anyone but Brands brand of beating them into submission over a season means they are wiped out come tournament time. They look good when wrestling CrabTree Corners School of Blackjack Dealing but against the big boys they fold & hold rather than attack and win. ” Never attribute to inspiration that which can be adequately explained by delusion”.
Southend Posted February 27 Posted February 27 1 hour ago, mr.nonothingatall said: Iowa has plenty of options in the portal, Ryan has done better than the brands have in the portal. There is no excuses for the brands as for as the portal choices for this year go 1 hour ago, AgaveMaria said: Iowa can have all the options in the world & recruit anyone but Brands brand of beating them into submission over a season means they are wiped out come tournament time. They look good when wrestling CrabTree Corners School of Blackjack Dealing but against the big boys they fold & hold rather than attack and win. Man you guys are relentless. A few down years and you’re ready to string em up!
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