Spencer pinned again - HEW?

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Lee has lost the last 3 matches he’s wrestled including getting teched at Worlds and pinned last night at RAF.  Is it a case of HEW? Is it time to move his training out of Iowa City?

[AgaveMaria]

HEW?

What does Spencer have to do with the US Government of Health, Education & Welfare?

[Rassling2]

41 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Lee has lost the last 3 matches he’s wrestled including getting teched at Worlds and pinned last night at RAF.  Is it a case of HEW? Is it time to move his training out of Iowa City?

Placing wrestling shoes in the center of the ring is a symbolic gesture of retirement from the sport. It’s time Spencer Lee does just that. Did you see the entire crowd giving Ben Askren a standing ovation. Now that was nice!

Edited November 30, 2025 by Rassling2

[NM1965]

42 minutes ago, AgaveMaria said:

HEW?

What does Spencer have to do with the US Government of Health, Education & Welfare?

Exactly. As a former Hawkeye I'd expect Spencer to be a disease vector, not a preventer of it. 

[Pinnacle]

The way they call freestyle pins I thought this one could have been called 5 seconds earlier, but it was pretty dramatic having it called with about 1 second remaining. Bonus drama for having Yatsenko cornered by NLWC Jake Varner and RBY.

[Rassling2]

10 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

The way they call freestyle pins I thought this one could have been called 5 seconds earlier, but it was pretty dramatic having it called with about 1 second remaining. Bonus drama for having Yatsenko cornered by NLWC Jake Varner and RBY.

Lee looked like he just gave up the way he was bulled over so easily to his back like that

[Booger]

Jimmy Cinnabon posting again-SCREWY? 

[Pinnacle]

Just now, Rassling2 said:

Lee looked like he just gave up the way he was bulled over so easily to his back like that

 

He no longer has that built in strength advantage over his opponents is what I am seeing. 

[MPhillips]

1 hour ago, Rassling2 said:

Placing wrestling shoes in the center of the ring is a symbolic gesture of retirement from the sport.

Thank goodness you posted that in a bigger size as it makes it easier to pinpoint how f'ing stupid you are...

[headshuck]

He comes out so fast… I think he gasses himself.

[ionel]

7 minutes ago, headshuck said:

He comes out so fast… I think he gasses himself.

You talking about Jimmy's posting speed?  

[Rassling2]

1 hour ago, Pinnacle said:

 

He no longer has that built in strength advantage over his opponents is what I am seeing. 

He seemed much more aggressive against Ono than in this match and that wasn’t too long

[1032004]

1 hour ago, Pinnacle said:

The way they call freestyle pins I thought this one could have been called 5 seconds earlier, but it was pretty dramatic having it called with about 1 second remaining. Bonus drama for having Yatsenko cornered by NLWC Jake Varner and RBY.

Does Yatsenko actually train there?  There weren’t even any NLWC guys on the card right?

[Pinnacle]

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

Does Yatsenko actually train there?  There weren’t even any NLWC guys on the card right?

Don't know

[BAC]

It's been a while since Spencer has looked excited to wrestle.  I don't know what the solution is -- different training regimen, change training location, move to coaching, retire. But what I do know is I hate seeing someone out there wrestling solely because that's what people expect and you don't want to let them down or deal with being called a quitter.  Especially when it's as likeable a kid as Spencer. 

But I'm rooting for him to advocate for himself, not succumb to expectations, not subjugate his best interests to loyalty, and that he either rediscovers the passion to compete or, if needed, has the courage to move on.

[D3 for LU]

2 minutes ago, BAC said:

It's been a while since Spencer has looked excited to wrestle.  I don't know what the solution is -- different training regimen, change training location, move to coaching, retire. But what I do know is I hate seeing someone out there wrestling solely because that's what people expect and you don't want to let them down or deal with being called a quitter.  Especially when it's as likeable a kid as Spencer. 

But I'm rooting for him to advocate for himself, not succumb to expectations, not subjugate his best interests to loyalty, and that he either rediscovers the passion to compete or, if needed, has the courage to move on.

This.

D3

[D3 for LU]

6 hours ago, Booger said:

Jimmy Cinnabon posting again-SCREWY? 

D3

[El Luchador]

The rest of the world has upper body skills, we do not.

[1032004]

I know this is a pastry troll thread, but he seemed pretty happy in this interview:

I thought it was interesting how he talked about when he was upset after getting silver, he says he wasn’t upset that he lost, he was upset because he wanted to give the fans a better match

[LIV4GOD]

What does HEW stand for?

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, LIV4GOD said:

What does HEW stand for?

Burnout 

[BIGTENFANBOY]

3 minutes ago, LIV4GOD said:

What does HEW stand for?

"Had Enough Wrestling"

[Nak21]

21 hours ago, BAC said:

It's been a while since Spencer has looked excited to wrestle.  I don't know what the solution is -- different training regimen, change training location, move to coaching, retire. But what I do know is I hate seeing someone out there wrestling solely because that's what people expect and you don't want to let them down or deal with being called a quitter.  Especially when it's as likeable a kid as Spencer. 

But I'm rooting for him to advocate for himself, not succumb to expectations, not subjugate his best interests to loyalty, and that he either rediscovers the passion to compete or, if needed, has the courage to move on.

Oh God, could you imagine if he left? Felt it was better for his Olympic dreams to train elsewhere? He’s all Iowa has left. I shudder to think the effect that would have on an already fragile fan base and program.

[Caveira]

3 minutes ago, Nak21 said:

already fragile fan base and program.

Iowas fragile fan base ?    Are all these new psu fans here cause the Iowa board was shut down?

[Nak21]

Iowas board was shut down? Iowa has a board?? What lead to the shut down - the CyHawk loss or the super classy comment made in the match thread?? Where will people go to get their racial slurs if the Iowa board is closed??