Takeaways from National Duals

[The Kid]

12 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

 

The NCAA has stated they will only award Wrestling one championship. It is an either/or situation, and there is a reason the Tournament as opposed to a Dual has decided 100 percent of the D1 Wrestling Championships.

The attendance and viewership simply do not back up your argument. 

Here is another thing. Almost all the duals this weekend were lopsided blowouts. This includes the final dual which effectively was over from a competition standpoint at 133. 

The casual alumni fan can understand dual meets better than the scoring at the individual ncaa tournament. 

It makes more sense that the dual meets determine the best team.  

It's better for the teams, the fans, and the wrestlers imo.

[Wrestej]

21 hours ago, Truzzcat said:

No idea, sounds like 141 may not be an option with his weight currently or its going to be a hell of a pull, and I dont think they want to shelf Edmond for his senior year. That said Mendoza is 1000% a contender at 149 in my book.

If it was my decision and Mendoza could make 149, it would be his.  I could care less about it being Edmonds last year.  Otherwise Seth should redshirt in my opinion.

[juniorvarsity]

Delete. I said this already. Thought it was a different thread

Edited November 17, 2025 by juniorvarsity

[WrestlingRash]

24 minutes ago, TNwrestling said:

Again, do things need to be changed? Yes. 

 

Should it still be recognized as an ncaa title? Also Yes. 

it is not an NCAA title

[TNwrestling]

7 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

it is not an NCAA title

reading comprehension is hard for you isn't it?

[forkemaz]

1 hour ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

They didn't TAKE the rights away from anyone.  

I'm astounded at the number of people who are complaining about the finals being on ESPN 2, which seems to be a channel that most people have.  People acting like its a streaming membership!

I don't hear people complain like this during NCAA which is on the same platform. 

 

Ncaa is on espn+ and does not switch services during the tournament. 

[forkemaz]

43 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

 

The NCAA has stated they will only award Wrestling one championship. It is an either/or situation, and there is a reason the Tournament as opposed to a Dual has decided 100 percent of the D1 Wrestling Championships.

The attendance and viewership simply do not back up your argument. 

Here is another thing. Almost all the duals this weekend were lopsided blowouts. This includes the final dual which effectively was over from a competition standpoint at 133. 

This is mathematically false. If Massoma pins (and he nearly did) its now 21-15 which puts iowa within distance of a tie and going to criteria if they had Keuter available and he is able to stick Feldman. 

[alex1fly]

Couple reasons NDI winner should not be considered an NCAA Title. "National Duals Invitational" is just the name of the event, not every team was allowed to compete, just to name a few.

[Pinnacle]

40 minutes ago, TNwrestling said:

Not replace. Move dates, change the qualifying process, etc to ensure the best teams go. And yes, two championships. 

What is the strategy when the NCAA says "No" to two championships? 

[Pinnacle]

9 minutes ago, forkemaz said:

This is mathematically false. If Massoma pins (and he nearly did) its now 21-15 which puts iowa within distance of a tie and going to criteria if they had Keuter available and he is able to stick Feldman. 

 

You know, I mentioned this somewhere yesterday. But we all know that was never going to happen. 

[TNwrestling]

1 minute ago, Pinnacle said:

What is the strategy when the NCAA says "No" to two championships? 

man idk, tf yall lookin for a fight for? i said it SHOULD be recognized as an ncaa title. i said its good for the sport. it isnt my job or problem to figure out how. 

[Pinnacle]

10 minutes ago, TNwrestling said:

man idk, tf yall lookin for a fight for? i said it SHOULD be recognized as an ncaa title. i said its good for the sport. it isnt my job or problem to figure out how. 

Gotcha. 

[WrestlingRash]

10 minutes ago, TNwrestling said:

man idk, tf yall lookin for a fight for? i said it SHOULD be recognized as an ncaa title. i said its good for the sport. it isnt my job or problem to figure out how. 

It is not an NCAA championship. Calm down. 

[GimJustafan]

do we see Iowa make a change at 125 ?

DeLuca in at and Peterson on the bench ?

Bouzoukis did he separate himself this weekend to hand him the reins at 125 for Ohio state 

[TNwrestling]

5 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

It is not an NCAA championship. Calm down. 

brain react

[WrestlingRash]

7 minutes ago, TNwrestling said:

brain react

remember when you wrote "Congratulations to the 2025 NCAA Dual Champions...THE Ohio State Buckeyes'? I remember it because it was 1 page back in this thread. Like I told you, they aren't NCAA Dual Champions. You are wrong. 

[Pinnacle]

2 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

remember when you wrote "Congratulations to the 2025 NCAA Dual Champions...THE Ohio State Buckeyes'? I remember it because it was 1 page back in this thread. Like I told you, they aren't NCAA Dual Champions. You are wrong. 

 

But they can call themselves The Paycoms Dual Champions. No problem there because they won Paycoms fair and square. 

[MPhillips]

No. 4 Ohio State tops No. 3 Iowa 27-12 to claim team title at National Duals

https://www.ncaa.com/live-updates/wrestling-men/d1/no-4-ohio-state-tops-no-3-iowa-27-12-claim-team-title-national-duals

 

[forkemaz]

30 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

 

You know, I mentioned this somewhere yesterday. But we all know that was never going to happen. 

It litterally almost did happen. Massoma hit a 7 point move and could have pinned. Keuter is 3-0? Against feldman and with the duel on the line and needing a pin the tension would have been crazy. 

 

The person i quoted said the match was out of reach after 133 which is entirely false. Caliendo wins and Massoma pins and the duel looks much closer even without a heavy weight. Ohio looked incredible but people love to shit on iowa and saying stupid things.

[Gene Mills Fan]

1 minute ago, forkemaz said:

It litterally almost did happen. Massoma hit a 7 point move and could have pinned. Keuter is 3-0? Against feldman and with the duel on the line and needing a pin the tension would have been crazy. 

 

The person i quoted said the match was out of reach after 133 which is entirely false. Caliendo wins and Massoma pins and the duel looks much closer even without a heavy weight. Ohio looked incredible but people love to shit on iowa and saying stupid things.

i was thinking this at the 149 and with 15 seconds to go Block was winning

[forkemaz]

4 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

i was thinking this at the 149 and with 15 seconds to go Block was winning

Actually you are right. This is the example. That Caliendo loss was to the cowboys. The duel was closer than people seem to think it was.

[OMW]

I'm a Penn Stater, but whether the team wrestles at the event or not, I'm making plans to attend it next year.

It was good early-season wrestling and a great format!

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

2 hours ago, WrestlingRash said:

Ok Boomer. Only old people have cable anymore. Yes, ESPN is a streaming service. 

Not a boomer, plus I have Hulu.  ESPN is on Hulu.  

You just don't know how to find it on your streaming provider.  How did you possibly watch NCAA?

Dolt.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

1 hour ago, forkemaz said:

Ncaa is on espn+ and does not switch services during the tournament. 

NCAA was also on ESPN, which is available on other services such as Hulu, if you actually know how to switch channels.

[WrestlingRash]

37 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

 

But they can call themselves The Paycoms Dual Champions. No problem there because they won Paycoms fair and square. 

+100 internet points. You are correct.