antifa doesn't exist!!!

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[jross]

https://torch-antifa.org/chapters/



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[Offthemat]

Antifa has been anarchistb/communist since its inception, pre WWII.  I am not anarchist, communist, fascist, or shariaist.  I’m against all of them. 

[red viking]

53 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Can’t be found when not being investigated.  You’ve posted this question 50928375 times boss.   Just like mafia and Hamas and Isis. There is no roster.   But they are now being investigated and the hammer is coming 

 

Well, if there are no official members but they're a terrorist org, then literally anybody can be considered a member.  

[Offthemat]

11 minutes ago, red viking said:

Well, if there are no official members but they're a terrorist org, then literally anybody can be considered a member.  

One indicator is that they burn American flags. 

[Caveira]

39 minutes ago, red viking said:

Well, if there are no official members but they're a terrorist org, then literally anybody can be considered a member.  

Name all the official terrorists in Al-Qaeda.  If you can’t your argument is dumb.  
 

They have no official members therefore you may be one 

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47 minutes ago, red viking said:

Well, if there are no official members but they're a terrorist org, then literally anybody can be considered a member.  

that;s what you were hoping for right? 

[WrestlingRasta]

Al-queda, the mafia….absolutely have/had official members, members who took an oath of allegiance the organization, and have/had official positions in the organization.   We know who many of them are/were and what their positions are/were, both historically and present. That’s pretty accessible information. 

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[red viking]

1 hour ago, jross said:

https://torch-antifa.org/chapters/



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Lmfao. Did you actually click on any of those? Most of them aren't even real organizations (look more like blogs) and they certainly have zero affiliation w each other except that they are "antifascist." Should we go after them for being against fascism? 

[JimmySpeaks]

54 minutes ago, red viking said:

Well, if there are no official members but they're a terrorist org, then literally anybody can be considered a member.  

I’ve asked you imperious times now to show us what terrorist organizations have an official list with all their names?  

[JimmySpeaks]

4 minutes ago, red viking said:

Lmfao. Did you actually click on any of those? Most of them aren't even real organizations (look more like blogs) and they certainly have zero affiliation w each other except that they are "antifascist." Should we go after them for being against fascism? 

Commie bastards 

[Caveira]

44 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Al-queda, the mafia….absolutely have/had official members, members who took an oath of allegiance the organization, and have/had official positions in the organization.   We know who many of them are/were and what their positions are/were, both historically and present. That’s pretty accessible information. 

No shit.  But they were eventually extensively investigated by the fbi and/or local law enforcement.   At one point in their life they were not.  
 

for decades we had no idea who they were.   Remember Appalachian (mafia)?   it wasn’t even considered a real huge thing until then.  Point is you don’t or can’t know unless they are investigated.  There is way more info : arrests in the last 6 months than in let’s say 8-10+ years.   
 

 

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[jross]

17 minutes ago, red viking said:

Lmfao. Did you actually click on any of those? Most of them aren't even real organizations (look more like blogs) and they certainly have zero affiliation w each other except that they are "antifascist." Should we go after them for being against fascism? 

Just the first three.

Ashville site shut down with wording that we can infer is due to scrutiny.

https://rosecityantifa.org/ 

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https://atlantaantifa.org/

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[jross]

Nobody should be arguing naming semantics to excuse violence.

Being against fascism is okay.  Support antifa is not okay.

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57 minutes ago, red viking said:

Lmfao. Did you actually click on any of those? Most of them aren't even real organizations (look more like blogs) and they certainly have zero affiliation w each other except that they are "antifascist." Should we go after them for being against fascism? 

last i heard, actual people create and write blogs 

[red viking]

9 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

last i heard, actual people create and write blogs 

So ate those people " terrorists" then? Should we lock them up? 

[jross]

13 minutes ago, red viking said:

So ate those people " terrorists" then? Should we lock them up? 

The ones organizing, calling for, committing violence should be locked up.  The ones enabling known violent folks to do more violence should be scrutinized and locked up if serious crime is found.

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[mspart]

The problem is the crazy left, and that has been questioned on here so I clarify, the looney left, the socialist/progressive left, the way way way left of center left, doesn't think what antifa is doing is a crime obviously.   They support it and give it their money and time.   They bless it and try to protect it.   Notice MSM does not report on antifa pecadillos or tries to minimize it by saying mostly peaceful and other such nonsense.   

mspart

[WrestlingRasta]

2 hours ago, Caveira said:

They have no official members therefore you may be one 

 

 

 Point is you don’t or can’t know unless they are investigated.  There is way more info : arrests in the last 6 months than in let’s say 8-10+ years

Your position on whether or not there are any official members in those organizations sure changed awfully quickly. That’s interesting.   I guess your point is “Antifa” was never looked into or investigated until a few months ago.  Which is also interesting, since the current President talked about them an awful lot in his first term as well.     Fair enough.  Point taken. Carry on.  

None the less, you participate in political violence, or any violence, you should be dealt with swiftly and appropriately.  Whether it’s in the streets of Portland or the US Capitol, whether it’s targeting a group or an individual. Anyone who tries to whatabout or deflect or diminish from any of it doesn’t really care as much about the American way as much as they do some particular partisan ideology.  There should be no “but’s”. 

[Caveira]

16 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Your position on whether or not there are any official members in those organizations sure changed awfully quickly. That’s interesting.   I guess your point is “Antifa” was never looked into or investigated until a few months ago.  Which is also interesting, since the current President talked about them an awful lot in his first term as well.     Fair enough.  Point taken. Carry on.  

None the less, you participate in political violence, or any violence, you should be dealt with swiftly and appropriately.  Whether it’s in the streets of Portland or the US Capitol, whether it’s targeting a group or an individual. Anyone who tries to whatabout or deflect or diminish from any of it doesn’t really care as much about the American way as much as they do some particular partisan ideology.  There should be no “but’s”. 

They have official members.  I posted the founders fleeing to Europe.  Who did the founders of that chapter found if it isn’t official.   Why did they flee if they did nothing, founded  nothing or organized  nothing 

 

you’ve seen forms on this thread for starting chapters and organizing.   Thinking they aren’t real isn’t realistic.   They are real.   

 

blocking traffic.   Stopping cars.   Harassing people on campus.   Taking over city blocks.  Is political violence.  They do it in the name of political causes.    Blue cities don’t prosecute prioritize  stopping that.   Burning cop cars.   Burning gov buildings  Is political violence.  Admit that at least.   

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1 hour ago, red viking said:

So ate those people " terrorists" then? Should we lock them up? 

i bet yoiu would say we should if they were righting 'winger' philosophies on the web

[Lipdrag]

I am listening to Ron Chernow's book about Grant.   It is remarkable to me that all of the same arguments about "there is no antifa" were used 150 years ago during reconstruction stating "there is no Klan".  No headquarters.  No rosters.  No one knows who are those people in masks doing nasty things to physically and violently counter political and social things with which they disagree.

When the local and state authorities proved time and again that they would not protect the citizens against the criminals Grant moved to crush the Klan through martial law, quasi military interdiction, and federal judicial means.  All of the same counterarguments were posed as used today against Trump's deployment of ICE against illegal aliens and National Guard against criminals in general.  Unconstitutional.  Overreach.  Dictatorial.  Anti-States' rights, etc.  The Klux defenders did not have the word fascist back then but I was amazed that we could have interchanged the words klan with antifa and Grant with Trump and the rest of the words would be exactly the same. 

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found him 

 

[ionel]

Can we get a list of the registered wingers?