flyingcement Posted July 1 Posted July 1 per intermat Hard to replace Nickerson, but I like this hire. 6 1
Mr. PeanutButter Posted July 1 Posted July 1 7 minutes ago, flyingcement said: per intermat Hard to replace Nickerson, but I like this hire. Big fan. He's a great communicator, very personable (important traits for working with athletes, admins, and donors alike). Has been quietly building up a solid resume. Looking forward to what he can do in my favorite state! 4 2
BruceyB Posted July 2 Posted July 2 I am very excited to see what Ware can do at NCU. I do think Nickerson did a great job there, but it seems to be a good hire with a lot of upside. Best of wishes to NCU and Ware. 2
nhs67 Posted July 3 Posted July 3 9 hours ago, MNRodent said: I wonder if any Sooners go with him? How? Portal doesn't open for Oklahoma w/ him leaving. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
GreenandGold Posted July 3 Posted July 3 3 hours ago, nhs67 said: How? Portal doesn't open for Oklahoma w/ him leaving. He should ask Kish, he knows how to poach kids before leaving the room. 1 1
cowcards Posted July 3 Posted July 3 10 hours ago, nhs67 said: How? Portal doesn't open for Oklahoma w/ him leaving. You don’t have to be in the portal to transfer. The portal allows you to be recruited by others. If they want to go they would be able to. Just enroll at Northern Colorado. 2
nhs67 Posted July 3 Posted July 3 1 hour ago, cowcards said: You don’t have to be in the portal to transfer. The portal allows you to be recruited by others. If they want to go they would be able to. Just enroll at Northern Colorado. This was, more or less, the answer I was wanting put out there. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
H82Lose Posted July 4 Posted July 4 Kish buried Ware in that room. Ware is a better coach than both coaches in that room. He is a pretty damn good recruiter as well. If he can keep Hall and Mauller I think that is a strong staff at NC. I think Ware will get a RTC going, and try to grow that program. OU is dying on the vine with that leadership in there. Ware was the last tie to the school, history-wise. If I were king for the day: I would chase Maple down as HC, add Andrew Howe, Cody Brewer as asst's. Maybe get Sam back on staff....IDK, but it drives me nuts watching them destroy that program. 1
Kingkong285 Posted July 4 Posted July 4 34 minutes ago, H82Lose said: Kish buried Ware in that room. Ware is a better coach than both coaches in that room. He is a pretty damn good recruiter as well. If he can keep Hall and Mauller I think that is a strong staff at NC. I think Ware will get a RTC going, and try to grow that program. OU is dying on the vine with that leadership in there. Ware was the last tie to the school, history-wise. If I were king for the day: I would chase Maple down as HC, add Andrew Howe, Cody Brewer as asst's. Maybe get Sam back on staff....IDK, but it drives me nuts watching them destroy that program. How is the program dying? Do you have inside knowledge of what the day to day operations are within the program? Kish is going into year 3, and probably put together the best team/roster OU has had in over 10 years.
boconnell Posted July 6 Posted July 6 On 7/4/2025 at 6:43 AM, H82Lose said: Kish buried Ware in that room. Ware is a better coach than both coaches in that room. He is a pretty damn good recruiter as well. If he can keep Hall and Mauller I think that is a strong staff at NC. I think Ware will get a RTC going, and try to grow that program. OU is dying on the vine with that leadership in there. Ware was the last tie to the school, history-wise. If I were king for the day: I would chase Maple down as HC, add Andrew Howe, Cody Brewer as asst's. Maybe get Sam back on staff....IDK, but it drives me nuts watching them destroy that program. It's funny that the program has gone further and further downhill since OU fans/boosters ran out of town, and now the best way to fix the program is to bring in a Spates guy as HC and a Spates guy as assistant.
H82Lose Posted July 6 Posted July 6 On 7/4/2025 at 9:19 AM, Kingkong285 said: How is the program dying? Do you have inside knowledge of what the day to day operations are within the program? Kish is going into year 3, and probably put together the best team/roster OU has had in over 10 years. I cannot deny that he has bought several transfers to come in to save his ass. That part is spot on. I also would not argue that he has a pretty good group of local Oklahoma studs he has recruited. What I can tell you, he has completely destroyed, along with Lou, the rich Oklahoma wrestling history. The alum want nothing to do with him. As far is where is the program headed. Jason Leonard ran Chad Richison off, and that is how OSU got DT, he was the money behind that part. Now, wrap that all up with no shared revenue, you tell me where you think this is headed.
H82Lose Posted July 6 Posted July 6 12 hours ago, boconnell said: It's funny that the program has gone further and further downhill since OU fans/boosters ran out of town, and now the best way to fix the program is to bring in a Spates guy as HC and a Spates guy as assistant. Got to get some of that tradition/history/alum back in there, IMO. Folks who believe and love that program, embrace all the old guys and bring them back. Just my 2
alex1fly Posted July 6 Posted July 6 3 hours ago, H82Lose said: I cannot deny that he has bought several transfers to come in to save his ass. That part is spot on. I also would not argue that he has a pretty good group of local Oklahoma studs he has recruited. What I can tell you, he has completely destroyed, along with Lou, the rich Oklahoma wrestling history. The alum want nothing to do with him. As far is where is the program headed. Jason Leonard ran Chad Richison off, and that is how OSU got DT, he was the money behind that part. Now, wrap that all up with no shared revenue, you tell me where you think this is headed. No revenue share for OU wrestling? How does this affect guys on their roster vs other rosters where they do revenue share? I should read up on it, most of what I’ve seen is related to football.
H82Lose Posted July 7 Posted July 7 19 hours ago, alex1fly said: No revenue share for OU wrestling? How does this affect guys on their roster vs other rosters where they do revenue share? I should read up on it, most of what I’ve seen is related to football. I know 2 guys that Kish and Leonard flew out to see and asked for money. They are trying to bridge the revenue share issue with NIL. Here is the problem: Leonard is HATED. I do not know one person who will speak highly of him. Kish, is not well liked, I would not say hated, but many do not like what he has done to the program. Both guys told them they were no longer donating to the program, for many reasons I have listed. Your program is rolling. DT is a stud, we can all acklnowledge that, but DT has embraced the history. Hell, him and John Smith are tight, and he has asked several guys to come back and talk to the young guys.
ScottishSteel Posted July 7 Posted July 7 Castiglione retiring too; don't think he would ever drop the wrestling program - can't say the same for the next guy
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