Brooks story: True or False?

[yubfrontin]

All this talk of ChatGPT and I had to try my hand at it.

[BAC]

I see the PSU haters are out in full force in this thread.  If it were up to this crowd, Brooks would be banned for life, jailed, and sterilized for good measure. 

Brooks was boneheaded, no doubt. Not reading the label of a natural supplement is a inexcusable, pneumonia or not, so I'm not sympathetic. I'm also ticked that his actions will hurt the strength of Team USA.  But saying he's outright lying and intending to cheat, without a lick of evidence, is pretty nasty stuff. 

If the USADA decides otherwise, then I'll defer to that finding, as there may be more to the story.  But if the USADA determines this was a result of negligence, and not an intent to cheat, is this crowd going to collectively petition the USADA to reconsider, and to impose a harsher punishment?

It used to be the case that when a guy graduated and was on the World team, the entire USA wrestling community would be behind him.  I guess not so anymore.  I can just see some of you guys cheering like maniacs when Ramazanov came from behind to beat him at the Olympic semis.  Best day of your life, eh?

I guess some guys just can't get over the beatings Brooks gave your team in his college days.  

Edited 15 hours ago by BAC

[MPhillips]

25 minutes ago, BAC said:

It used to be the case that when a guy graduated and was on the World team, the entire USA wrestling community would be behind him. I guess not so anymore. 

Jordan Burroughs

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

The apologists continue.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

1 minute ago, MPhillips said:

Jordan Burroughs

Don't forget DT vs Cox angry tweets.  PSU fans didn't like Cox so much either.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

30 minutes ago, BAC said:

 

Brooks was boneheaded, no doubt. Not reading the label of a natural supplement is a inexcusable, pneumonia or not, so I'm not sympathetic. I'm also ticked that his actions will hurt the strength of Team USA.  But saying he's outright lying and intending to cheat, without a lick of evidence, is pretty nasty stuff. 

 

LOL natural supplement?  If DHEA is "natural," then so are testosterone, hGH, and EPO. 

[BAC]

8 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

LOL natural supplement?  If DHEA is "natural," then so are testosterone, hGH, and EPO. 

DHEA is a hormone that your body naturally produces. I assume the supplements are a synthesized version but it's irrelevant -- the point is when you buy supplements, it's likely a non-FDA approved use, which means you need to be extra careful to check the ingredients.  However made, DHEA is a steroid, full stop, so he's getting dinged for it -- rightly so.

The only question is whether he intended to cheat.  Here, there is zero evidence of it.  The fact that he wasn't planning to compete anyway points the other way.  (He didn't get his test results until WTTs were over.)

Yet here you are, along with 90% of other "fans," celebrating the downfall of a world team member, accusing him of lying, and all but DEMANDING the USADA find him guilty of intending to cheat.  Why? Because his alma mater kicked your favorite team's azz.  That's all.

Welcome to Team USA, home of the worst fans in the world.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

40 minutes ago, BAC said:

DHEA is a hormone that your body naturally produces. I assume the supplements are a synthesized version but it's irrelevant -- the point is when you buy supplements, it's likely a non-FDA approved use, which means you need to be extra careful to check the ingredients.  However made, DHEA is a steroid, full stop, so he's getting dinged for it -- rightly so.

The only question is whether he intended to cheat.  Here, there is zero evidence of it.  The fact that he wasn't planning to compete anyway points the other way.  (He didn't get his test results until WTTs were over.)

Yet here you are, along with 90% of other "fans," celebrating the downfall of a world team member, accusing him of lying, and all but DEMANDING the USADA find him guilty of intending to cheat.  Why? Because his alma mater kicked your favorite team's azz.  That's all.

Welcome to Team USA, home of the worst fans in the world.

LOL

Also test, hGH and EPO are natural supplements by your logic.

Yeah, I won't be cheating for Brooks or Daton Fix ever again.  They were both caught doping.  

Also, he was never a world team member.

You sound like a true "fan" short for fanatic, and blinded by loyalty.

Edited 14 hours ago by Interviewed_at_Weehawken

[Mr. PeanutButter]

1 hour ago, BAC said:

DHEA is a hormone that your body naturally produces. I assume the supplements are a synthesized version but it's irrelevant -- the point is when you buy supplements, it's likely a non-FDA approved use, which means you need to be extra careful to check the ingredients.  However made, DHEA is a steroid, full stop, so he's getting dinged for it -- rightly so.

The only question is whether he intended to cheat.  Here, there is zero evidence of it.  The fact that he wasn't planning to compete anyway points the other way.  (He didn't get his test results until WTTs were over.)

Yet here you are, along with 90% of other "fans," celebrating the downfall of a world team member, accusing him of lying, and all but DEMANDING the USADA find him guilty of intending to cheat.  Why? Because his alma mater kicked your favorite team's azz.  That's all.

Welcome to Team USA, home of the worst fans in the world.

The he-wasnt-competing-therefore-he-couldnt-possibly-be-cheating narrative is a lame narrative.

Dopers dope. They dope whether there is a competition at the end of the season or not. Plenty of athletes, including wrestlers, got caught, kept blasting gear, came back as good if not better only to get caught again. In fact, doping when there is not a looming competition is eggsactly when it's most advantageous to ingest trenbolone sandwiches. That's how cycling works.

The other reason why this is a dumb narrative is that Aaron himself said he was planning on competing at final X up until he got sick in In this here interview so he could have been juicing all season long.

People aren't buying the eggscuses because the story is dumb and flimsy, for various reasons that have been discussed ad nauseam. 

Furthermore, how many people do you know that, after suffering through a serious illness, tell themselves: "you know what I could use right now? Some amateur recreational trifling with my hormones" 

Finally, I believe a good portion of the response to this story stems from the asshole rule: when you act like a tool, you forfeit a good deal of grace and patience. Nowhere is that rule more on display than with Carter Starocci right now, for example. 

Edited 13 hours ago by Mr. PeanutButter

[bnwtwg]

I think the real lesson we have all learned is that we let Jesus take the wheel, he will drive us straight to Wegman's and deliver a story full of holy's in it for USADA

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

Oh, and then you have clowns like Basch saying stuff about taking full responsibility while making up about a half dozen excuses about how there was no intentional cheating.

[Caveira]

2 hours ago, BAC said:

Not reading the label of a natural supplement

Not the label.  The title of the drug.  It’s like the name of the product was illegal drugs.  
 

also praise Mohammad.