The 3-Point Takedown: Friend or Foe?

[mspart]

Not a fan.   They increase that, did they increase the tech fall criteria?  Neither did they in FS.  Not a fan really.  

mspart

[BruceyB]

On 6/24/2025 at 11:25 AM, CHROMEBIRD said:

Bit of apples-and-oranges with folkstyle and today's freestyle rules, but I don't recall if the action was any better or worse back when FILA awarded 1TDs. I think they went to 2+ to encourage more exciting takedowns (amplitude, etc.), which is what they were really after, rather than just "action". But IIRC they also did a bunch of rules tinkering with the clinch/ball grabs and such around that timeframe. I guess folk attempted similar with the revised NF points rules but dunno if an analogue from neutral would work.

FILA went to 2pt takedowns after the step-out was implemented IIRC. It didn't make sense to reward a takedown and a push-out equally.

[BruceyB]

3 hours ago, pmilk said:

As long as the leader is fulfilling the requirements for "not stalling," i.e. not backing up, avoiding contact, etc., then it isn't considered stalling.

Do you watch current college wrestling? A wrestler has a lead with 30 seconds to go in the third period and they immediately back up to the edge, then circle along along OB line, and they dare the referee to interfere with the outcome of the match. 

The problem is that referees have let wrestlers abuse stalling for so long that it's now considered standard and a part of the game. Referees should be less afraid to make potentially outcoming changing calls, and as they continue to do so, people will be more reluctant to stall at the end of matches because they know the ref is going to hit them.