Will we be using the CBU-57 bomb or will Iran get to the table and negotiate. Time is running out.

[Tripnsweep]

Don't bring me into this. 

[PortaJohn]

2 minutes ago, red viking said:

If you ever talk to somebody from that part of the world, they'll tell you that the main reason why people over there hate us so much is because we do whatever Israel wants and give them massive military and financial aid. Basically, they see us an extension of Israel, by far the most evil country in that part of the globe. 

Your  entire argument is premised on the assumption that we need any dirty work done there whatsoever. If we simply minded our own business, we wouldn't have nearly the problem that we do. 

Incredible ignorance from the right. Are you one of those wingers that thinks people over there hate us because of our "freedom" and our "Christianity?"

Keep drinking the Kool aid. 

Absolute B*ll *I poop my pants, don't laugh at me*.  Are you obtuse?  I literally referenced Christopher Hitchens and called him a legend.  This right here is why we have a problem in the Middle East.  

 

[Bigbrog]

10 minutes ago, red viking said:

If you ever talk to somebody from that part of the world, they'll tell you that the main reason why people over there hate us so much is because we do whatever Israel wants and give them massive military and financial aid. Basically, they see us an extension of Israel, by far the most evil country in that part of the globe. 

Your  entire argument is premised on the assumption that we need any dirty work done there whatsoever. If we simply minded our own business, we wouldn't have nearly the problem that we do. 

Incredible ignorance from the right. Are you one of those wingers that thinks people over there hate us because of our "freedom" and our "Christianity?"

Keep drinking the Kool aid. 

Reason #132,435,345 why you are not taken serious....you'd take Iran over Israel?!?!

Edited Wednesday at 06:43 PM by Bigbrog

[red viking]

4 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

Absolute B*ll *I poop my pants, don't laugh at me*.  Are you obtuse?  I literally referenced Christopher Hitchens and called him a legend.  This right here is why we have a problem in the Middle East.  

 

I  never heard of that idiot until now. He's a true moron. If what he said is true, they'd hate every non-muslim country roughly equally. That isn't even remotely close to reality. Israel is enemy A1 and we're enemy A2, even though most of the countries around the world are non-Muslim. 

Can you add 2+2? How about trying to actually talk to somebody from that part of the world instead of listening to this random ethnocentric idiot? 

[Caveira]

13 minutes ago, red viking said:

If you ever talk to somebody from that part of the world, they'll tell you that the main reason why people over there hate us so much is because we do whatever Israel wants and give them massive military and financial aid. Basically, they see us an extension of Israel, by far the most evil country in that part of the globe. 

Your  entire argument is premised on the assumption that we need any dirty work done there whatsoever. If we simply minded our own business, we wouldn't have nearly the problem that we do. 

Incredible ignorance from the right. Are you one of those wingers that thinks people over there hate us because of our "freedom" and our "Christianity?"

Keep drinking the Kool aid. 

The left did what to stop this conflict ?   When they were in power…. 

[PortaJohn]

3 minutes ago, red viking said:

I  never heard of that idiot until now. He's a true moron. If what he said is true, they'd hate every non-muslim country roughly equally. That isn't even remotely close to reality. Israel is enemy A1 and we're enemy A2, even though most of the countries around the world are non-Muslim. 

Can you add 2+2? How about trying to actually talk to somebody from that part of the world instead of listening to this random ethnocentric idiot? 

First you accuse me of being a winger and now you're accusing Christopher Hitchens of being ethnocentric.  A true comedian you are

[red viking]

14 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

Reason #132,435,345 why you are not taken serious....you'd take Iran over Israel?!?!

Absolutely. The Israeli  government is the scum of the earth. Neten Yahoo can burn in hell. 

Edited Wednesday at 06:57 PM by red viking

[Caveira]

11 minutes ago, red viking said:

Absolutely. The Israeli  government is the scum of the earth. Neten Yahoo can burn in hell. 

The pro Hamas terrorist guy hates Israel.   And likes Iran.  Surprise surprise  lol 

Edited Wednesday at 07:08 PM by Caveira

[mspart]

 Hand he's right at the center of political thought.   Just ask, he'll tell you.

mspart

[ionel]

4 hours ago, Paul158 said:

Will the B 2 bomber be able to deliver the GBU-57 Bombs (MOP) without being detected. Or will they need some F-35's and F/A 18's to escort them?

The B-2 being stealth bombers i'd bet they will go in alone just as in OIF.  You don't want more objects to paint on radar.  I'd expect the Isreali Air Force will clear things out with F-35 ahead of the B-2s and be close by if needed.  

[Offthemat]

25 minutes ago, ionel said:

I'd expect the Isreali Air Force will clear things out with F-35 ahead of the B-2s and be close by if needed.  

Iran isn’t displaying much in the way of air defense. 

[PortaJohn]

28 minutes ago, ionel said:

The B-2 being stealth bombers i'd bet they will go in alone just as in OIF.  You don't want more objects to paint on radar.  I'd expect the Isreali Air Force will clear things out with F-35 ahead of the B-2s and be close by if needed.  

 

2 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

Iran isn’t displaying much in the way of air defense. 

The only air defense they have is WW2 era flak

[ionel]

4 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

Iran isn’t displaying much in the way of air defense. 

Yeah but you still want those F-35s nearby. 

[red viking]

Iraq & Afghanistan didn't have an air defense either. How did those nation building efforts go? 

We're heading into a disaster here. 

Maybe Trump will back down though, like he did on the tariffs. You never know with that guy. He blows back and forth like the wind. 

Edited Wednesday at 09:01 PM by red viking

[mspart]

I would be really surprised if the US takes action.   The US may give Israel what it needs to do the bunker busting but wont go in on our own.   I would be very surprised if they did.  Stock market too based on today.

mspart

[red viking]

48 minutes ago, mspart said:

I would be really surprised if the US takes action.   The US may give Israel what it needs to do the bunker busting but wont go in on our own.   I would be very surprised if they did.  Stock market too based on today.

mspart

We can't give it to them. We have the pilots that know how to fly the planes that drop the bunker busters

[mspart]

So you are for the US doing the job then eh?

mspart

[scourge165]

10 hours ago, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said:

lol

Are you serious?

This current band of evidence free idiots?

Yup. Don't worry. He provided proof... in the form of reports from a couple years later with them saying they would again desist if those who came to the agreement in the first place held up their end(that's literally his link, but he tried to just do the cut and paste so you couldn't see that part). 

[scourge165]

4 hours ago, red viking said:

If you ever talk to somebody from that part of the world, they'll tell you that the main reason why people over there hate us so much is because we do whatever Israel wants and give them massive military and financial aid. Basically, they see us an extension of Israel, by far the most evil country in that part of the globe. 

Your  entire argument is premised on the assumption that we need any dirty work done there whatsoever. If we simply minded our own business, we wouldn't have nearly the problem that we do. 

Incredible ignorance from the right. Are you one of those wingers that thinks people over there hate us because of our "freedom" and our "Christianity?"

Keep drinking the Kool aid. 

That whole part of the world?

I'm pretty sure the Persians and most Iranians are NOT in favor of this. Don't conflate this with Iraq or Afghanistan. 

You're effectively saying all Muslim Countries are the same...which is pretty ignorant and bigoted. 

[red viking]

46 minutes ago, mspart said:

So you are for the US doing the job then eh?

mspart

Let Israel handle their own problems. They started the war

Edited Wednesday at 11:37 PM by red viking

[mspart]

That's what I said you said it can't be done.   So which is it you want.

mspart

[red viking]

4 minutes ago, mspart said:

That's what I said you said it can't be done.   So which is it you want.

mspart

I don't care about their nuclear program. Too bad so sad

[scourge165]

7 hours ago, PortaJohn said:

Iran was violating the deal.  Dont be stupid

Yeah, I'm not upset we're going to potentially take out the Iranian leadership. That's probably the last hurdle to getting Palestine to agree to something resembling peace in the Middle East, but they weren't agreeing to this based on what?

 

Not the United Sates State's department, not the IAEA... so why did they stop complying? 

 

It's just the intellectual dishonesty of saying of course Iran can't be taken at their Word while the US pulls out of this, the Parris accords and every 4 years they could go in the opposite direction. 

 

Quote

 

During this period, the IAEA consistently confirmed Iran was honoring the terms:

• As of March–April 2018, IAEA inspections found Iran compliant with its obligations reuters.com+15en.wikipedia.org+15brookings.edu+15.

• Even the U.S. State Dept. and European nations acknowledged Iran’s cooperation en.wikipedia.org+4en.wikipedia.org+4armscontrol.org+4.

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The U.S. Pull‑Out in 2018

• On May 8, 2018, then-President Trump officially withdrew the U.S. from the JCPOA, calling it flawed newsweek.com+6en.wikipedia.org+6fieldstonnews.com+6.

• Despite European objections emphasizing that the agreement remained binding under UNSC Resolution 2231 theguardian.com+15en.wikipedia.org+15cfr.org+15.

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Summary Answer

Yes — Iran did agree to and was actively implementing the nuclear agreement. They complied with strict commitments on enrichment limits, centrifuge counts, and inspections, and these actions were repeatedly verified by the IAEA. Only after the U.S. exited the deal in May 2018 did Iran begin rolling back its commitments.

 

 

[ionel]

5 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

Yeah, I'm not upset we're going to potentially take out the Iranian leadership. That's probably the last hurdle to getting Palestine to agree to something resembling peace in the Middle East, but they weren't agreeing to this based on what?

 

Not the United Sates State's department, not the IAEA... so why did they stop complying? 

 

It's just the intellectual dishonesty of saying of course Iran can't be taken at their Word while the US pulls out of this, the Parris accords and every 4 years they could go in the opposite direction. 

 

 

https://austria.embassy.gov.au/vien/BoardMarch25_7d.html#:~:text=Australia remains seriously concerned that,gravity of the situation clear.

[scourge165]

5 hours ago, red viking said:

I  never heard of that idiot until now. He's a true moron. If what he said is true, they'd hate every non-muslim country roughly equally. That isn't even remotely close to reality. Israel is enemy A1 and we're enemy A2, even though most of the countries around the world are non-Muslim. 

Can you add 2+2? How about trying to actually talk to somebody from that part of the world instead of listening to this random ethnocentric idiot? 

Ok...I don't know how you've never heard of Hitchens. He seems like...someone you'd have heard of.

2nd...what did he say that was wrong? 

3rd...STOP SPEAKING FOR ALL MUSLIMS. 

 

Finally, pointing out the most dangerous religion in the world right now is Islam...is NOT "Ethnocentric." 

 

Please go and learn about Iran. Or take your own advice, TALK to Iranian people. They'll tell you they SUPPORT Israel and hate the IRGC and the IRI. 

I mean, they won't all tell you than, but MOST will and as long as we can claim everyone else in that "part of the world," which is...pretty vague, thinks we are "Israel's bitch," then I feel like I can say this with a bit more certainty.