HUGE Announcement from Dake!

[1032004]

31 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

That's pretty false, but see my comment above as it pertains to this particular thread.0

Maybe Kerk too.  Who else credits basically only God/Jesus and barely talks about anything else?

[bnwtwg]

53 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Maybe Kerk too.  Who else credits basically only God/Jesus and barely talks about anything else?

Off the top of my head? Nolf, Carr, Marinelli, Blades, KOT (even went so far as to say christian bible should be required in public school curriculum because apparently he wasn't required to pass civics class to get a HS degree), Hendrickson with a big ol' jeebus shirt stained with the blood of bald eagles before his upset of Gable and his many conversations before & after, Brandon Slay can only speak in the parts of the Old Testament that align with his small-minded Texas opinions, and of course who can forget about the most recent convert AJ "Bamboo" Ferrari

[ironmonkey]

Go back and watch the last few seasons of NCAA interviews and note how often questions are asked about family, teammates, personal adversity, coaches or even unique personality quirks and take a shot each time the question is ignored to talk about religion.  

 

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[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

9 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Maybe Kerk too.  Who else credits basically only God/Jesus and barely talks about anything else?

Kerk talks about MMA too.  Wonder if he's afraid to be punched?

[1032004]

8 hours ago, bnwtwg said:

Off the top of my head? Nolf, Carr, Marinelli, Blades, KOT (even went so far as to say christian bible should be required in public school curriculum because apparently he wasn't required to pass civics class to get a HS degree), Hendrickson with a big ol' jeebus shirt stained with the blood of bald eagles before his upset of Gable and his many conversations before & after, Brandon Slay can only speak in the parts of the Old Testament that align with his small-minded Texas opinions, and of course who can forget about the most recent convert AJ "Bamboo" Ferrari

OK maybe Carr.  I don’t think I’d put KOT in that category TBH.  Nolf and Marinelli have been out of college (and thus not doing interviews) for 3+ years.  Nolf I wouldn’t have put in that category IMO, Marinelli yes. 

Blades yes (I commented about her earlier), but I was mainly thinking about college guys.

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[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

Dake foreshadowed this on a recent Flo interview, when he was asked if he has read any good books lately.  He answered something along the lines of "the best book I have ever read." and went on to say The Bible.

[PortaJohn]

36 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Dake foreshadowed this on a recent Flo interview, when he was asked if he has read any good books lately.  He answered something along the lines of "the best book I have ever read." and went on to say The Bible.

I remember that and boy did I misinterpret that.  It's a fascinating read and thought he did it out of curiosity.  

[Gus]

18 hours ago, 1032004 said:

No, the interesting thing for me re: Dake is he found Jesus while training at Penn State.  So I wouldn’t be surprised if Cael is preaching it a bit (at least at the RTC practices)

Cael is a Mormon, different Jesus. Kyle said that he found Jesus through the death of his father, not through Penn State. 

[TNwrestling]

19 hours ago, moodybooty said:

 

The United States is a Christian-focused country, and a lot of its upper echelon will proclaim their faith as their driving factor. Is this not probably the same in other countries with their corresponding religion?

 

The fact you said this and don't see any sort of issue with it is why christianity is a problem currently in this country. 

[moodybooty]

1 hour ago, TNwrestling said:

The fact you said this and don't see any sort of issue with it is why christianity is a problem currently in this country. 

Wanna say here that I haven’t attended church in nearly a decade, completely believe in separation of church and state, and have not downloaded the Bible app, even at my grandmother’s insistence.

but God is on our money, in our Pledge of Allegiance, and used as a reasoning tool for policy. We are, ostensibly, a Christian-focused nation. (We Are.. also Penn State)

I don’t think Christianity should be everyone’s answer, but if it’s someone’s.. power to them. Whatever helps them sleep at night.

Literally, in Dake’s case, it seems. Any harm in proclaiming that when asked about how he keep’s going?

[TNwrestling]

17 minutes ago, moodybooty said:

Wanna say here that I haven’t attended church in nearly a decade, completely believe in separation of church and state, and have not downloaded the Bible app, even at my grandmother’s insistence.

but God is on our money, in our Pledge of Allegiance, and used as a reasoning tool for policy. We are, ostensibly, a Christian-focused nation. (We Are.. also Penn State)

I don’t think Christianity should be everyone’s answer, but if it’s someone’s.. power to them. Whatever helps them sleep at night.

Literally, in Dake’s case, it seems. Any harm in proclaiming that when asked about how he keep’s going?

They added "In God we Trust" on the bills in 1955 and "One Nation Under God" was added in 1954. Both were answers to the cold war and the communist scare. To say in one line that you "completely believe in separation of church and state" then basically say its ok they use religion as a reasoning to write policy is an oxymoron. Religion is a tool used by the ultra wealthy and those in power to stay in power. 

 

Heck, the church was pro abortion until Reagan and Jerry Falwell teamed up and made it their number one issue during the 80s. Reagan wanted the christian vote and Falwell wanted a spot on his cabinet. 

 

We aren't a "christian nation". The entire reason why we even exist as a country was because a group of people didn't want to be forced to join the Catholic church. We, as a nation, are supposed to be a melting pot of ethnicities. A diverse group of people and religions. THAT is what our forefathers envisioned for us. There's a group of people who seem to forget this. 

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[okokzach]

3 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Nolf I wouldn’t have put in that category IMO, Marinelli yes. 

Nolf has an actual personality, he's pretty funny 

[The Kid]

53 minutes ago, TNwrestling said:

They added "In God we Trust" on the bills in 1955 and "One Nation Under God" was added in 1954. Both were answers to the cold war and the communist scare. To say in one line that you "completely believe in separation of church and state" then basically say its ok they use religion as a reasoning to write policy is an oxymoron. Religion is a tool used by the ultra wealthy and those in power to stay in power. 

 

Heck, the church was pro abortion until Reagan and Jerry Falwell teamed up and made it their number one issue during the 80s. Reagan wanted the christian vote and Falwell wanted a spot on his cabinet. 

 

We aren't a "christian nation". The entire reason why we even exist as a country was because a group of people didn't want to be forced to join the Catholic church. We, as a nation, are supposed to be a melting pot of ethnicities. A diverse group of people and religions. THAT is what our forefathers envisioned for us. There's a group of people who seem to forget this. 

The colonists left England to pursue religious freedom from the Church of England, not the Catholic Church fwiw.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

1 hour ago, TNwrestling said:

We aren't a "christian nation". The entire reason why we even exist as a country was because a group of people didn't want to be forced to join the Catholic church. We, as a nation, are supposed to be a melting pot of ethnicities. A diverse group of people and religions. THAT is what our forefathers envisioned for us. There's a group of people who seem to forget this. 

WHAT? 

There is so much wrong there, that I do not even know where to start.

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[TNwrestling]

6 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

WHAT? 

There is so much wrong there, that I do not even know where to start.

yeah @The Kid advised me of the split of the church of england from the catholic church like 40 years before the mayflower set sail. which is kind of an issue that you both would read all that and that ONE THING is your entire take away. 

 

Besides that minute detail what exactly else is wrong that would qualify as "so much" being wrong?

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[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

6 minutes ago, TNwrestling said:

yeah @The Kid advised me of the split of the church of england from the catholic church like 40 years before the mayflower set sail. which is kind of an issue that you both would read all that and that ONE THING is your entire take away. 

 

Besides that minute detail what exactly else is wrong that would qualify as "so much" being wrong?

Oh, I have plenty of takeaways:

1.  The first permanent colony was Jamestown.  It had nothing to do with religion and everything about making money.

2.  The separatists were members of the Church of England who wanted out.  That is how they eventually ended up over here.  They didn't particularly care for what you would call "separation of church and state."

3.  There is no direct connection between the separatists and independence from Britain.

4.  Our forefathers DID NOT envision a diverse group of ethnicities and religions, especially if you are calling the Separatists our forefathers.  I love the way things worked out, but I don't think Governor Bradford would be.

I could keep going...

[The Kid]

10 minutes ago, TNwrestling said:

yeah @The Kid advised me of the split of the church of england from the catholic church like 40 years before the mayflower set sail. which is kind of an issue that you both would read all that and that ONE THING is your entire take away. 

 

Besides that minute detail what exactly else is wrong that would qualify as "so much" being wrong?

Melting pot for starters....lol.  

Melting pot? Good God!

[PortaJohn]

22 minutes ago, TNwrestling said:

yeah @The Kid advised me of the split of the church of england from the catholic church like 40 years before the mayflower set sail. which is kind of an issue that you both would read all that and that ONE THING is your entire take away. 

 

Besides that minute detail what exactly else is wrong that would qualify as "so much" being wrong?

I'll take a stab. 

First, I agree with the spirit of what you are saying but it is a little too Disney.  The founding fathers had different perspectives and many disagreements.  The claim that we are not a Christian nation would've not held true in the 1700's.  What the founding fathers all agreed on is that we should not be a theocracy.  Many during that era  were very suspicious of Methodist and Quakers for being loyalist to the British empire.  You can say the battle that was happening at that time was within the different sects of Christianity itself. 

Second, we were very much a "white" country for whites.  So much so that even later in the 1800's we set up schools to turn Native Americans into "whites" and disown their "savage" customs and heritage.

 

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